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Wednesday, February 08, 2012

Justice: 5 things that could make the 2012 season a successful one for the Astros

6. A special Day for William Irving “Colt .45s” Neder (and half of the 3-block radius famous Neder-Bancroft comedy team!)

5. .Getting third baseman Chris Johnson and first baseman Brett Wallace on the right track would be a pleasant surprise. Both were handed jobs when 2011 spring training opened, and both ended up being demoted to the minor leagues. At the moment, the Astros have no idea what they can expect from either of them. They’ll need to play their way onto the team in spring training.

4. Second baseman Jose Altuve, third baseman Jimmy Paredes and outfielder J.D. Martinez showed some nice spurts after being summoned to the big leagues last summer. If at least one of them could have a solid sophomore season, it would be hugely important for the future of the franchise.

3. Luhnow’s most attractive trade assets are Wandy Rodriguez and Brett Myers. If he can get a single prospect for each of them by the trade dealine, he will have continued strengthening the organization.

2. To get productive seasons from center fielder Jordan Schafer and shortstop Jed Lowrie.  They were once highly regarded prospects with the Braves and Red Sox. Now they’re getting a fresh start in Houston. There’s no question they have talent, but so far have been unable to stay healthy or make the necessary adjustments every player must make. If just one of them ends up being a contributor over the next few years, it would be significant.

1. To have a bunch of young players take positive steps up the ladder. If Wade’s four No. 1 picks–catcher Jason Castro (2008), shortstop Jiovanni Mier (2009), second baseman Delino DeShields (2010) and outfielder George Springer (2011)–all have good seasons, it would be a huge boost for the timetable.

Repoz Posted: February 08, 2012 at 11:42 PM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. base ball chick Posted: February 09, 2012 at 12:30 AM (#4056933)
1 - if my uncle had ovaries and a uterus he would be my auntie. mier and deshields both suck and jason castro can't hit ML pitching. whi knows about springer

2 - schafer had exactly ONE year - 4 years ago in AA, in which he did not suck. i'd rather have bourgeois and bogusevic. and Glass Doll Lowrie will stay healthy because????

3 - you trade away wandy (and the ol WB) you have j happ as your ace and bud norris as your #2 and henry sosa and livan hernandez and jordan lyles to fill out the rotation. no closer, no setup man, no really GOOD reliever

4 - altuve can actually field like a ML second baseman - who knows if he can hit like one. yes it would be noce if JD martinez could hit but luhnow has already paid jack cust and travis buck and justin ruggiano and fernando martinez to replace him. paredes is a for shtt fielder and runner but they like him a lot bettern chris johnson, because they got him in a trade for roy oswalt, which brings me to

5 - brett wallace is slowern a pregnant grrrl, has huge gaps in his swing and couldn't make it in winter ball. they are trying to trace chris johnson, who they never liked

and i don't see where any "success" is gonna come from, let lone winning

and if justice had bothered to do any sort of REAL investigationg and REPORTING on jim crane instead of spending all his energy trying to get to be a MLB.com writer, we wouldn't be in this mess
   2. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: February 09, 2012 at 12:37 AM (#4056936)
1. Bring back the Nolan Ryan of the early 80's

2. Bring back the Killer B's in their primes

3. Bring back the Joe Morgan of 1975 and trade him back to Houston

4. Bring back the Mike Scott of 1986

5. And bring back the Colt .45s name. Down with government giveaways, up with protecting your home and state!
   3. villageidiom Posted: February 09, 2012 at 12:39 AM (#4056937)
and Glass Doll Lowrie will stay healthy because????
Well, he's had every injury possible by now. Except death. Now that I think of it, has anyone seen Lowrie recently? Someone should check on him.
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: February 09, 2012 at 12:47 AM (#4056945)
everyones list is much more optimistic than mine
1. plane crash killing the Cardinals
2. plane crash killing the Brewers
3. plane crash killing the Reds
4. plane crash killing the Pirates
-----well there are no other teams in the NL central, so I guess it's just four things. :)

   5. A triple short of the cycle Posted: February 09, 2012 at 12:49 AM (#4056946)
And J.R. Richard.
   6. McCoy Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:12 AM (#4056952)
-----well there are no other teams in the NL central, so I guess it's just four things. :)


umm........
   7. UCCF Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:22 AM (#4056954)
Yeah, the Cubs would still find a way to lose.
   8. cardsfanboy Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:40 AM (#4056960)
I debated saying 5. the Cubs continue to be the Cubs....
   9. Bill Liming Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:42 AM (#4056964)
everyones list is much more optimistic than mine
1. plane crash killing the Cardinals
2. plane crash killing the Brewers
3. plane crash killing the Reds
4. plane crash killing the Pirates
-----well there are no other teams in the NL central, so I guess it's just four things. :)


I'm not sure the Astros win the Central even if all 5 other teams entire MLB roster is raptured on April 1, and that's not even counting the MLB disaster plan restocking draft. Which current Astros would get taken in that draft might be an interesting question.
   10. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: February 09, 2012 at 02:46 AM (#4056975)
And J.R. Richard.

* throws chair, retroactively *
   11. Rants Mulliniks (formerly Cold Prosimian) Posted: February 09, 2012 at 08:25 AM (#4057003)
This was useful. I feel like writing one called "How the Blue Jays can win 110 games". It would be a fun exercise in imagination if nothing else.
   12. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: February 09, 2012 at 09:19 AM (#4057018)
1. Sign Roy Hobbs.
2. Sign Kelly Leak.
3. Sign Joe Hardy, Nuke LaLoosh and Bugs Bunny.
4. Sell the team to Rhubarb the cat.
5. Bring back those awesome rainbow Skittles jerseys. (NO SARCASM INTENDED; PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE THOSE JERSEYS ARE LOST SOULS)
   13. TerpNats Posted: February 09, 2012 at 11:53 AM (#4057141)
Rebuild Colt Stadium and hope the mosquitoes come back, too.
   14. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 09, 2012 at 12:02 PM (#4057149)
1. Death
2. Destruction
3. Pestilence
4. Famine
5. ???
   15. tigertears Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:20 PM (#4057219)
1. Death
2. Destruction
3. Pestilence
4. Famine
5. ???


Newt Gingrich?
   16. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:38 PM (#4057232)
1. Death
2. Destruction
3. Pestilence
4. Famine
5. ???


Conquest. You know, if you are going to be preachy über-devout in half the threads you post in, you should at least get the 4 horsemen right.
   17. The DA Baracus Hypothesis Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:39 PM (#4057233)
1. Death
2. Destruction
3. Pestilence
4. Famine
5. ???


Rock the #### out?
   18. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:41 PM (#4057238)
1. Death
2. Destruction
3. Pestilence
4. Famine
5. ???


Profit!
   19. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: February 09, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4057251)
Profit!

Ah, you must be an arms dealer.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 09, 2012 at 02:24 PM (#4057282)
Conquest. You know, if you are going to be preachy über-devout in half the threads you post in, you should at least get the 4 horsemen right.

Lighten-up Francis, I went with the ones from the Grantland Rice piece for the sports connection. Take it up with him.
   21. Vance W Posted: February 09, 2012 at 03:22 PM (#4057359)
Wandy Rodriguez, Bud Norris, Brett Myers, Livan Hernandez to eat some innings...J.A. Happ or whatever. We've seen worse rotations. Heck, look at the 2012 Orioles. The lineup is pretty horrible, true but I bet the Astros do not have baseball's worst record in 2012.
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 09, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4057384)
Wandy Rodriguez, Bud Norris, Brett Myers, Livan Hernandez to eat some innings...J.A. Happ or whatever. We've seen worse rotations. Heck, look at the 2012 Orioles. The lineup is pretty horrible, true but I bet the Astros do not have baseball's worst record in 2012.

I think the question is, how long do Wandy and the wife-beater stay in Houston?

The team migh be merely bad through the All-Star break, and then descend to the 9th level of suckitude as everyone making more than league minimum is shipped out.
   23. Ron J Posted: February 09, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4057473)
1. Death
2. Destruction
3. Pestilence
4. Famine
5. ???


Kaos. (Who left the riders because of artistic disagreements before they became famous)
   24. Davo Malvolio Posted: February 09, 2012 at 05:30 PM (#4057483)
They have a ton of guys on offense who used to be super highly-touted prospects, but never really did anything after that(Fernando Martinez, JR Towles, Jordan Schaefer, Brett Wallace, Jed Lowrie). If they all magicallly simultaneously remember what it was that allowed them to crush minor league pitching, and then use those skills against Major League pitching......this team could be something special.

On a serious note: I can see universes where the 2012 Astros put up a league-average offense, and cobble together enough innings to win 70+ games. I don't think they'll be as bad as everyone is suggesting.
   25. JoeHova Posted: February 09, 2012 at 06:05 PM (#4057518)
This is definitely an exercise in lowering expectations, which is kind of depressing if you're a Houston fan, considering that spring training hasn't even started yet.
   26. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: February 09, 2012 at 06:13 PM (#4057525)
5. Bring back those awesome rainbow Skittles jerseys. (NO SARCASM INTENDED; PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE THOSE JERSEYS ARE LOST SOULS)


Amen brother!
   27. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: February 09, 2012 at 06:41 PM (#4057556)
Kaos. (Who left the riders because of artistic disagreements before they became famous)

At which point he changed his name to Ronnie Soak, and became a milkman.
   28. base ball chick Posted: February 09, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4057708)
luhnow is REALLY trying to trade wandy and myers

towles is no longer with the astros

bud norris is barely above average, j happ sux

i can't figure out how the astros won't lose 120

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