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I saw him about 5 years ago and was really geeked up about it. I left disappointed, his personna was of a crabby old man, doing a lot of toilet humor.
RIP, George, thanks for the laughs.
Gee, really? I had no idea.
Yeah, I consider myself a spiritually open person, but this sentence made me laugh out loud for some reason. I guess the thought of Angels acting as henchmen of God, dressed as black ninjas perhaps... yessssss master...
Anyway, I hope George is pleasantly surprised right now, or at the very least, amused. Sure, I thought he took narrow view as it pertains to human consciousness and even existence, but that’s an extremely minor quibble when compared to how much I truly enjoyed his comedy. From the Todd rant, to impersonating people who talk into their hand pretending it’s a phone [So I call the guy, get it, I call him!], good times man, good times.
For 70s comedians, he was the one I liked next. And I guess I'm thinking early 70s because I don't think of Robin Williams as contemporary with Carlin. I hadn't heard Prior's stuff at that point (white suburban kid, nobody I knew had any Prior albums). Carlin >>> Klein > Martin Mull >>> Cheech and Chong.
I like your list in general. I struggle with the pacing of Laurel and Hardy -- I find them hard to watch. And while I love Curly, I can't put him above the others you list. And I'd find a place for Williams.
; )
Well, everybody but me seemed to have Saturday Night Fever and some Fleetwood Mac albums, too. :)
Well, everybody but me seemed to have Saturday Night Fever and some Fleetwood Mac albums, too. :)
Well, that Saturday Night Fever album is hilarious.
(I can't do it. I admit it, I kinda like that movie.)
D'oh! I missed that. Rodney is the best, hands down for me. The best! (Check out his club if you're ever in NYC. They haven't changed the decor or the waiters in 40 years, it seems. It's great!)
RIP
Can I wipe the sweat from your forehead?
Yeah, sure. Just don't mess up my hair. I spent hours on my hair.
When I had a part-time job as third-shift security guard in a small hospital, the night supervisor was a formidable RN who seemed like the most straight-laced of people. One night she summoned me to the ER. A million scary thoughts filled my head (did she find my secret sleeping/hiding place? did she know I was using the dumbwaiters to raid the kitchen? did she see me playing Statis-Pro at the abandoned nurse station?) She greeted me with a smile and said "Is it true you have HBO?" I said yes, and she asked "Could you tape the George Carlin special?" Blew my mind totally!
He started strong, but then he gave up the stage to make crappy movies. He's got the early peak but not enough career value for me.
In addition to Dangerfield, I would also add Joan Rivers. She was quite funny.
Does anyone remember The Unknown Comic? He had his moments as well. Very stoopid.
Sorry, but Bring the Pain and Bigger and Blacker did not suck.
Yeah, he's good. I actually like Dave Chappelle and Louis C.K. more, though. But Chris Rock is bigger than they are, for sure, and I'd have no problem with him on the list. What do you guys think of Andy Kaufman? Or is he more of a performance artist than a stand up guy? The stuff he did interests me, but it doesn't really make me laugh, if that makes sense. Also, any old timers want to vouch for Lenny Bruce? I know the legend, but not the comedy.
As for iconic comedians - except for Chaplin and Laurel - it seems to be a very American list.
What about the comic messiah JC, Cleese and the Monty Python Gang if we're talking iconic comedy of the 70's.
And of course there are also Mel Brooks and Woody Allen who made the funny movies in the early 70's that are still funny...
And yeah, I know that here I'm preaching to the choir, but I just wanted an excuse to post the link.
"Hey Chuckie, is my fly down?"
"er..."
"Well it should be, I'm peeing."
Also, Rickles still kicks ass.
I will miss George. I saw him in 2001 and it was awesome, even though it was a small show and he said he was warming up for Leno so doing a lot of "safe" material.
When 9/11 happened, his planned comedy tour was called "I kinda like it when a lot of people die." For whatever reason, it took them at least 3 weeks to change the name to something a little more sensitive to the political context.
Thanks dp. I was trying to remember his name. I knew some comedy writers and they all worshipped at his altar.
Bill and Ted sadly play their air guitar.
(Is mentioning Bill and Ted here the equivalent of mentioning Russert's friendship with Cheney in the Russert RIP thread?)
No way. I'm going to pull a Gaelan here and declare that anyone who doesn't like that movie hates life and is evil. Now, if you were to bring up Carwash, a movie that made both Carlin and Pryor unfunny, then the gloves are coming off.
So who does that best compare to, HOF- or HOM-wise?
No, Steve Martin?
It looks like Pedro might be headed that way.
Pete Rose or Wade Boggs maybe? Guys who were plenty deserving of HOF status, but stuck around to pad their stats/wallets well after they were actually worth much.
I'd say more like Ernie Banks. Great start to a career at a premium position, then settled into an easier, less valuable role while still being thought of as they were earlier in their career.
In 6th grade (1982) a bunch of us "discovered" Tom Lehrer. Loved him ever since.
Stephen Fry & Hugh Laurie
Frankie Howard
Billy Connolly
Dave Gorman
Tommy Cooper
Peter Sellers
Morcambe & Wise
Alan Davies
Paul Merton
Eddie Izzard
That's the funniest stand up I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of the standup guys mentioned in this thread, it's unbelievably funny.
Oldtimers like Carol Burnett, Joan Rivers, Elaine May, and newer ones like Sarah Silverman and Kathy Griffin who might be the closest to Carlin's style of humour...
Cosby is great. I like blue humor, but I love Cosby because he could be funny without it. He's one of the greats, absolutely.
Garrison Keillor isn't really a comedian per se, but when he goes for the funny in a "News From Lake Wobegon" monologue, he can really smash it out of the park if he's on.
I pretty much go along with the lists of comedians posted earlier.......
Hey!
You up there!
What you want?
What is this?
It's an Ark
Aha
You wanna get it outta my driveway?
In addition to those mentioned above, I nominate Tim Conway and Carol Burnett.
Funniest man in the history of humor.
Absolutely. I really enjoyed that little award thing they did for him on HBO with Chris Rock, Robert Klein, and Gary Shandling. The insight he offered into his process was so interesting.
He absolutely killed, as they say.
The finish was a long story about how he read that moose sometimes are transported by helicopter - suspended below the copter in some sort of harness - to another stretch of wilderness. He imagines himself as an on-the-ground moose looking up and seeing....
Probably a 20-minute bit, and people were literally pounding the tables to go with screams of laughter. Some may literally have been pissing their pants.
Twas one of those stretches where people are begging for him to stop for a moment, if only so they can come up for air before they laugh again.
Interesting - it looks like an not quite so pithy "Jane - you ignorant slut..." type of argument.
Chris Rock deserves to be at the top, at least in the last 20 years.
I'm not recommending him for inclusion in any pantheon, but Martin Lawrence's early stand-up was really damn funny. Funnier than I thought, anyway. We caught an old special by him on Showtime the other night and it was brilliant. Not as political as Rock, Carlin, or Hicks, but we definitely fell off the couch a few times. The friend I was watching with does stand-up and all of the sudden he became a Martin Lawrence fan...
Very different style, but Dressed to Kill is just plain brilliant.
Talk about a career year- that is an amazing piece of work. My GF fell in love with him immediately, until she rented his other special and found them totally unwatchable and unfunny...
I haven't seen any love for Robin Williams. When he was still on the powder, he was as good as anyone...
This note is to add Woody Allen to the inner circle.
That moose was sure pissed at the Berkowitz's, wasn't he? I can still hear the hysterical laughter from the audience.
Two other bits that I'll never forget are his cheating on his metaphysics exam and "Guy de Maupassant Rabinowitz".
The man had absurd down pat.
I guess I never really got the Eddie Izzard love. I have not seen Dressed to Kill, however, so I will reserve judgment.
I've seen references to Steven Wright and Lewis Black previously in the thread. Are there any other current comedians/comediennes with Carlin-esque influences I should check out?
Carlin is not inner-circle HOF/HOM material. It's more like any HOF/HOM without Carlin would be as much of a joke as an HOF/HOM without Ruth.
Next time Robin Williams makes me laugh will be the first time.
The big draw in comedy now is Dane Cook, probably the only guy who can fill a stadium of this generation. Which tells you what you need to know about the state of Stand up Comedy.
If John Hodgeman comes to your town, go see him. Zach Galifinakis too.
Thank you for reminding me yet again why I haven't bothered hooking my TV back up.
Yikes. I'd rather rip out my intestines with a fork.
Names noted for future reference.
He is quite talented, but it's hard to determine exactly in what manner.
His mentor Jonathan Winters on the other hand strikes me as inner circle, if perhaps he didn't border on incomprehensible at times.
I watched an entire Dane Cook HBO special and couldn't figure out if the objective of the performance was to be funny.
Dane Cook is a ####### ##########. I could spit on the ground and then piss on that spit and then take a dump on that conglomeration of spit and urine and it would be funnier than Dane Cook.
That bit was a slam on baseball -- it portrayed baseball as a sissy sport while football as warlike.
Well, get to it, man.
I think he was just having fun with the language of the two sports. When NBC still did the game of the week, he would pop up once in a while with a short monologue about baseball. IIRC he grew up a New York Giants fan. He seemed super intelligent to me so I just assumed he was a baseball fan.
You have to remember that bit was done in the 70s. You know, back when war was considered a bad thing.
Boy...is Jackie "The Jokeman" Martling going to be pissed.
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OH MY SWEET PAJAMAS YES
Are you remembering to hang by your thumbs?
If we're just talking funny, though, I'll take Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers for my desert island.
Something tells me I should wait until I am away from the office to watch that...
Unless they don't mind you falling asleep at your desk.
He was having fun with the language; that as Carlin's favorite thing to do. Yes, he was a baseball fan, but he was caustic with baseball in this bit. He certainly wasn't isolating baseball as a superior sport.
Robin Williams is awful now (except for in Death to Smoochy), but his early stand-up was bad ass. A lot of people were raving about his Showtime special a couple of years ago, but it turned out to be crap IMO, him mostly ripping off bits done by edgier comedians and impressing people who weren't familiar with the source material...
dressed to kill is fantastic, i quote from it all the time. but, as mentioned above, it's really the brady anderson crazy-ass 50 HR anomaly career year for eddie. the rest of his stuff just doesn't come close to the peak of Dressed.
Patton Oswalt is probably my favorite stand up going right now ... his riffing on robert evans is pretty representative of the best of his stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkN226PToig&feature=related
"quit yer bellyaching buck rogers, it's just a diver's watch!"
He most certainly was, in the sense that he was never a big fan of the military-industrial complex and all it represented at the time (and still does).
He was still doing that bit until very recently --- he portayed baseball as the more sissy sport. It certainly was never an anti-war diatribe.
"Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game. Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle."
"Football is played in any kind of weather: Rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...can't see the game, don't know if there is a game going on; mud on the field...can't read the uniforms, can't read the yard markers, the struggle will continue!
In baseball if it rains, we don't go out to play. "I can't go out! It's raining out!"
"In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
No way -- he even pranced around on stage in a sissy manner during the baseball parts. Carlin was never a fan of the military industrial complex, but this wasn't a political bit.
I think he was. But it depends on your viewpoint.
As for this HOF debate. It seems an awfully big inner-circle being proposed unless one's view is that anyone who ever made any money at stand-up is in. We're talking a Neifi-inclusive HOF if the inner circle is all the guys already mentioned.
Bob & Ray did one of the best baseball sketches, an interview with a manager who tries to identify his team's biggest need and concludes after thinking of about 20 things that the team really can't play baseball at all. Along with Carlin, Abbott & Costello, and an old Bert Lahr sketch (where he's a drunken ballplayer doing a live cereal commercial), a classic of baseball comedy – I'm not sure there are a whole lot of others.
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