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Thursday, September 04, 2014

Kevin Frandsen doesn’t need ‘all the sabermetric-whatever-crap’

Frandsen lovers. Reach out of the darkness.

This came when Grant Paulsen asked how the Nats managed to drop three in Philadelphia and then go to Seattle and absolutely hammer Felix Hernandez. Is that just baseball, Paulsen asked?

“I am SO glad you said that, because it is true,” Frandsen said. “It’s baseball. It’s what the best part about it is. All the sabermetric-whatever-crap that you guys, [that] people talk about, you can throw that out the window, because it’s baseball. You get someone hot, you get someone not, whatever, it happens.

“Our team’s awesome,” Frandsen went on. “We grind it out. It says a lot about what we did, going to Philly, losing all three, going to Seattle, having a chance to lose four in a row, facing Felix and to do what we did against one of the best pitchers — if not THE best pitcher in the game. And it’s a testament to our team, just what we have going together, and how we play together. And we play for one goal, and that’s to win that day. Not win tomorrow; win today. And I feel like we’re doing that exceptionally well. So we’ve got to keep it going, and hopefully Nats fans are enjoying it.”

Repoz Posted: September 04, 2014 at 08:57 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: phillies, sabermetrics

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   1. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: September 04, 2014 at 09:29 AM (#4785197)
Ironically, Frandsen is pretty much the prototypical replacement-level player.
   2. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: September 04, 2014 at 10:11 AM (#4785231)
Also, this post is tagged "phillies" but Frandsen is playing for Washington this year.
   3. Joey B. Posted: September 04, 2014 at 10:46 AM (#4785266)
Also, this post is tagged "phillies" but Frandsen is playing for Washington this year.

Minor details like that don't really matter to someone whose primary concern is with trolling.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 04, 2014 at 11:50 AM (#4785330)
Ah, so winning a game after losing several in a row shows your collective strong, moral character, but the several previous losses reveal nothing about that character. Got it.
   5. Batman Posted: September 04, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4785335)
All he's saying is that character rankings would go like this:
1. 2014 Phillies
2. 2014 Nationals
(big gap)
3. Felix Hernandez
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 04, 2014 at 11:59 AM (#4785346)
Clearly, then, the ultimate achievement in morality is to go 0-161 and then win on the last day of the season. We are but flawed mortals, though, which is why such a team has never existed.
   7. craigamazing Posted: September 04, 2014 at 12:36 PM (#4785386)
That excerpt scores mighty high on the word salad scale.
   8. Born1951 Posted: September 04, 2014 at 01:46 PM (#4785459)
Reach out of the darkness

I bought that Friend and Lover album way back in the day (and still have it somewhere), loved the title track. Didn't remember much about the rest of the songs, but Youtube comes thru as usual, it has all of them. I like A Wise Man Changes His Mind, Ode to a Dandelion (great 60's song title!), and The Way We Were in the Beginning, don't care for the rest.
   9. TJ Posted: September 04, 2014 at 04:10 PM (#4785615)
Sabermetrics say Frandsen is barely a replacement-level scrub. His playing record and the four managers of the four different teams he has played on in eight years say basically the same thing...
   10. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 04, 2014 at 04:40 PM (#4785639)
Clearly, then, the ultimate achievement in morality is to go 0-161 and then win on the last day of the season. We are but flawed mortals, though, which is why such a team has never existed.


If the universe would never end and they played baseball forever, eventually some team would start the season 0-62 and finish it 100-0.

I wonder if it would be the same franchise that starts the season 62-0 and then goes on a 100 game losing streak.
   11. Basil Ganglia Posted: September 04, 2014 at 06:08 PM (#4785686)
Reach out of the darkness
I bought that Friend and Lover album way back in the day (and still have it somewhere), loved the title track. Didn't remember much about the rest of the songs, but Youtube comes thru as usual, it has all of them. I like A Wise Man Changes His Mind, Ode to a Dandelion (great 60's song title!), and The Way We Were in the Beginning, don't care for the rest.

When that song was being played on the radio we thought they were urging us to "Freak out in the darkness".
   12. Bunny Vincennes Posted: September 04, 2014 at 07:32 PM (#4785731)
Hey Repoz, just post the ####### article. I don't need a musical slide show to get to the ####### content that frequently for security reasons crashes my browser.
   13. Joey B. Posted: September 04, 2014 at 08:00 PM (#4785747)
If he does that, how can he let everyone know how witty, clever, and snarky he is?
   14. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 05, 2014 at 08:31 AM (#4785929)
The Phillies are probably the least sabermetric organization out there, and they're the ones who dropped Frandsen this spring, provoking a torrent of outrage from him. He should maybe think about that.
   15. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 05, 2014 at 08:34 AM (#4785930)
Kevin Frandsen doesn’t need ‘all the sabermetric-whatever-crap’


Since he's not making roster or playing time decisions, I agree. He doesn't need any of it.
   16. Rusty Priske Posted: September 05, 2014 at 09:03 AM (#4785940)
Some people just hate fun.

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