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Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Knobler: Bryce Harper decision might make all the difference

Bryceharper battery does have a nice ring to it.

He (Harper) knows his baseball history, and when I mentioned Al Kaline’s name, there was no blank stare. Yes, he was well aware that Kaline won a batting title.

“At age 20,” Harper said. “Who doesn’t know that? Winning a batting title at 20? That’s special.”

Kaline, who was in the big leagues at 18 and was a regular at 19, knows who Harper is, too.

“I hope they give him a chance,” Kaline said. “If I could do it, more guys could. From everything I’ve read, he’s a super talent who will be a big star in this game, if he stays healthy.

“I look forward to talking to him.”

Kaline knows that the baseball world of 2012 is much changed from the world of 1954, when he broke in with the Tigers. The increased attention brings increased pressure.

...But in other ways, Harper has it much better.

“I was not the most welcome person in camp,” Kaline said. “Nobody would go to dinner with me. I was basically isolated. I had a guy grab me by the shirt and say, ‘Don’t ever talk to me. You took my friend’s job. You shouldn’t be here.’”

Repoz Posted: February 29, 2012 at 06:24 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 29, 2012 at 09:20 AM (#4070772)
Harper to leave baseball to try hand at sports trivia.
   2. Bug Selig Posted: February 29, 2012 at 09:35 AM (#4070777)
Ichiro could be 19 or 20 if he wanted to.
   3. Misirlou is too lofty, and grabs up all the light Posted: February 29, 2012 at 09:49 AM (#4070785)
“I was not the most welcome person in camp,” Kaline said. “Nobody would go to dinner with me. I was basically isolated. I had a guy grab me by the shirt and say, ‘Don’t ever talk to me. You took my friend’s job. You shouldn’t be here.’”


That's pretty low class. So much for meritocracy.
   4. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: February 29, 2012 at 09:53 AM (#4070789)
That's pretty low class. So much for meritocracy.

But that was the Golden Age!
   5. Bourbon Samurai Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:27 AM (#4070817)
I enjoy that Harper is a fan. I'm looking forward to this season of Nats baseball.
   6. Perry Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:35 AM (#4070835)
That's pretty low class. So much for meritocracy.


Pete Rose faced the same thing when he came up, with the added issue of racial division. None of the white players would have anything to do with him, because he took Don Blasingame's job. The black players were his pals.
   7. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:35 AM (#4070836)
The person whose job Harper would be taking is ... Laynce Nix? Jonny Gomes? Either one was only on the team for a year so I don't see them having any crazed friends making threats on their behalf.
   8. JJ1986 Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM (#4070845)
The person whose job Harper would be taking is ... Laynce Nix? Jonny Gomes?


If Werth moves to center, it would be Bernadina.
   9. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:50 AM (#4070860)
If they try him at catcher there could be some hurt feelings on behalf of inhuman-ordeal survivor Wilson Ramos.
   10. McCoy Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:52 AM (#4070868)
That's pretty low class. So much for meritocracy.

Well, when you are playing in age without guaranteed multi-year contracts, good medical coverage, non-outrageous salaries, and no pension most insiders are rather against most outsiders.
   11. Chicago Joe Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM (#4070926)
I had a guy grab me by the shirt and say, ‘Don’t ever talk to me. You took my friend’s job. You shouldn’t be here.’”


Of course, Kaline's OPS in '54 was 80, so maybe he had a point. I think he took Don Lund's job. Kaline had an OPS+ of 51 the first half of the season and 111 the second half, if I'm reading BBref right.
   12. valuearbitrageur Posted: February 29, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4071206)
Of course, Kaline's OPS in '54 was 80, so maybe he had a point. I think he took Don Lund's job. Kaline had an OPS+ of 51 the first half of the season and 111 the second half, if I'm reading BBref right.


sounds like should have been grabbing the GMs shirt, not some young kid.
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 29, 2012 at 04:02 PM (#4071229)

Pete Rose faced the same thing when he came up, with the added issue of racial division. None of the white players would have anything to do with him, because he took Don Blasingame's job. The black players were his pals.


Why'd the black guys all hate Blasingame? Why'd all the white guys love him?

You'd think there's be some racial cross-ove on the friends/enemies list?

And what a pity a guy named "Blasingame" was not a hard-throwing pitcher.

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