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Friday, August 03, 2012

Knobler: Did the Mariners win because of some (Ichiro) subtraction?

Only if Ichiro wanted them to. Natch.

So are they winning now because Ichiro Suzuki is gone?

“Like what, Ichiro’s gone and now we’re unbeatable? No,” catcher John Jaso said Friday, before the Mariners’ streak ended with a 6-3 loss to the Yankees.

There are those in the Mariner clubhouse who do think there’s a link, although I couldn’t find any willing to say so publicly. And to be fair, there are also plenty who insist there’s no impact, whether they’re speaking publicly or privately.

“I think we were a bunch of young kids who were starting to figure it out,” general manager Jack Zduriencik said. “I thought the kids after the [All-Star] break would play pretty good.”

...Still, it’s clear that Mariners management loved the idea of moving past the Ichiro era, and that Wedge loved the idea of being able to write young players’ names into the top three spots in his lineup.

What isn’t clear is whether there’s any greater meaning in the recent hot streak, whether it’s either a result of Ichiro leaving or even simply a sign that Zduriencik’s rebuilding plan is beginning to work.

Repoz Posted: August 03, 2012 at 11:51 PM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. bookbook Posted: August 04, 2012 at 12:53 AM (#4200385)
I totally get the fading star as clubhouse poison meme. Blaming a franchise's woes on a guy Whois always hardworking and disciplined, acts respectfully towards his teammates, doesn't act like a jerk towards management or media, .... This is a bit of a new twist. Self-respecting editors shouldn't print this drek.
   2. Leroy Kincaid Posted: August 04, 2012 at 10:32 AM (#4200450)
Knibbler
   3. JEe (Jason) Posted: August 04, 2012 at 11:50 AM (#4200478)
Still, it’s clear that Mariners management loved the idea of moving past the Ichiro era, and that Wedge loved the idea of being able to write young players’ names into the top three spots in his lineup.

I am pretty sure Ms fans would love the idea of moving past the Wedge era too.
   4. Poisonous Moose Posted: August 04, 2012 at 12:39 PM (#4200497)
There are those in the Mariner clubhouse who do think there’s a link, although I couldn’t find any willing to say so publicly.


That's some good reporting.

What a ####.
   5. Mayor Blomberg Posted: August 04, 2012 at 02:16 PM (#4200539)
Well, it certainly wouldn't have anything to do with four games against the Royals.

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