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Friday, January 11, 2013

Kuwata rejects corporal punishment in sports

Former major league pitcher Masumi Kuwata has spoken out against corporal punishment in sports following the suicide of a Japanese high school student who endured repeated beatings by his basketball coach.

Good for Kuwata.

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 11, 2013 at 05:39 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: general, high school, international, japan

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   1. geonose Posted: January 11, 2013 at 06:22 PM (#4345295)
Hiroki Kuroda's story comes back to mind:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/06/sports/baseball/in-japan-yankees-hiroki-kuroda-was-molded-by-pain.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 11, 2013 at 06:24 PM (#4345301)
Is this actually a debate? WTF think corporal punishment in sports is appropriate?
   3. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: January 11, 2013 at 06:32 PM (#4345309)
WTF think corporal punishment in sports is appropriate?


Well, if corporal punishment is appropriate, I'm not sure why it shouldn't be appropriate in sports. I don't really have a strong opinion on the matter in general but to me if it's appropriate in other areas, it's appropriate in sports.

As for the specifics of this case there wasn't much to the article but when a young person takes his own life that's undeniably awful. My guess is that the basketball coach in question was almost certainly crossing several lines. Either because the physical nature of it was beyond what any rational person would consider acceptable or because he simply failed to recognize that he had a young person in distress.
   4. geonose Posted: January 11, 2013 at 06:32 PM (#4345311)
WTF think corporal punishment in sports is appropriate?

If you think the Pirates whole "Hoka Hey" business is suspect, they got nuthin' on the Japanese. Seriously, go read the article on Kuroda that I linked above.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 11, 2013 at 06:37 PM (#4345317)
WTF think corporal punishment in sports is appropriate?


Bobby Knight, Mike Leach, Mark Mangino, Jim Leavitt....
   6. Long Time Listener, First Time Caller Posted: January 11, 2013 at 07:34 PM (#4345351)
Mike Leach engaged in corporal punishment? GMAB
   7. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: January 11, 2013 at 07:51 PM (#4345359)
Totally read the headline as "capital punishment" and was totally confused.

So, so sad. And just because I haven't had the opportunity to say it in a while, "F-U Bobby Knight". That guy is an ass of epic proportions. I had thankfully forgotten he existed.
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 11, 2013 at 09:14 PM (#4345386)
Well, if corporal punishment is appropriate, I'm not sure why it shouldn't be appropriate in sports. I don't really have a strong opinion on the matter in general but to me if it's appropriate in other areas, it's appropriate in sports.

No. One can believe corporal punishment is acceptable for parents, or even that a competent legal system can dispense corporal punishment, without granting that right to the whim of a coach.

If a coach raises his hands to a player, the player should feel free to beat the crap out of him, using weapons if necessary.
   9. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: January 11, 2013 at 09:39 PM (#4345393)
One can believe corporal punishment is acceptable for parents, or even that a competent legal system can dispense corporal punishment, without granting that right to the whim of a coach.

Sure but one can believe that a coach is acting in loco parentis if one chooses to, particularly if the coach has parental authorization.
   10. GregD Posted: January 11, 2013 at 10:08 PM (#4345399)
In a brief, deplorable period as a high school basketball coach, one of my players--a student from Japan--told me that I should feel free to slap him if I thought it would help him learn. He was frustrated that he kept making the same basic mistake. I told him no we didn't do that, and he responded that he could get his dad to write a letter of permission if that would help. I was speechless.
   11. Knock on any Iorg Posted: January 11, 2013 at 11:50 PM (#4345423)
Japanese society operates with a different morality than we do here in the US, in case that wasn't apparent by this article. Keep that in mind when meting out your shock.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: January 12, 2013 at 02:14 AM (#4345465)
Sure but one can believe that a coach is acting in loco parentis if one chooses to

Well, no, one really can't. There is no loco parentis in this case because PARENTS DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUNISH THEIR CHILD FOR BEING BAD AT SPORTS.

Parents may have a right to physically punish a child "for the child's own good" but anybody who believes parents have the right to punish a child for making an error at 3B is a troglodyte. And, yes, any parent that does so should have their children taken away.

This is yet another moral no-brainer.
   13. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: January 12, 2013 at 04:07 AM (#4345493)
This is yet another moral no-brainer.

Well clearly it isn't, if the majority of a country disagrees with you.

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