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1. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: November 23, 2007 at 08:50 AM (#2623639)Super Torii!
There it is, a bases loaded walk. The game is tied and the rally monkey is jumping.
Wait, what’s that?
It’s Torii Hunter flailing away and topping it weakly to short.
Rally killed.
“Let’s go, Red Sox.”
Nice.
AL East: Sox/Yankees
AL Central:
AL West: Los Halos
Wild Card: Sox/Yankees
exactly what is so interesting about American League ball again?
Besides, wouldn't you like the Padres to be heavily favored instead of up against three other good teams?
But the Blue Jays have no shot in the East. None.
Maybe somebody steals a the wild card from the East, I'll give you that.
it won't be the Jays.
there were a lot of surprising performances from them this year, and most of them won't be repeated. wells isn't going to return to form; neither is overbay. Marcum will come back down to earth. They're a .500 team. The only team that I could see putting it together to upset the wild card next year is the tigers, if the pitchers all click, which i doubt they will. The NL is quickly closing the gap with the AL--I'd say the two leagues may be even once again going into next year. Certainly the majority of up and coming, exciting young talent seems to be in the NL.
AL East: Sox/Yankees
AL Central:
AL West: Los Halos
Wild Card: Sox/Yankees
Right, just like we knew the Mets were going to win the NL East in '07.
"Crack" goes Big Papi's bat as he smacks the ball toward the right center fence, a grand slam home run to give the Red Sox the lead. The rally monkey looks over to see Papilbon warming in the bullpen and gets a lump in his throat.
But no......you open you eyes to see Torii run full speed toward the outfield fence and leaps above the wall and snags the ball. The crowd roars "Torii Torii Torii".
Angels win.
*rimshot*
If the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim actually played in Los Angeles it would be Torre! Torre! Torre!
I know what you're saying, but you're kind of making his point. He didn't argue that pre-season favorites always make the playoffs. He argued that the AL is boring in comparison to the NL.
And lately, in some respects, he's been right because the good teams almost always win in the AL (because they're really very good) whereas the good teams don't always in the NL (because they're not really very good).
To some, that makes the NL more interesting.
The AL's had some pretty interesting stuff happen the past couple of seasons...the Yankees storming back from oblivion to make the playoffs in '07, the Indians blowing a 3-1 lead to the Red Sox in the '07 playoffs, the last three AL Central races. And the Red Sox finished in third place last year; it's not like Boston and the Yankees have some sort of impenetrable death grip on the top of the AL East.
To each his own, I guess. The NL had some really great races between some fairly mediocre teams last year. If that's what you're into, it's cool with me.
The Mets' collapse was historic but it is revisionist history to say they were locks to win the division going into 2007. Look at the rotation they went into the season with: 40+ year-old Glavine as the ace, El Duque coming off a season in which he posted an ERA+ less than 100, Maine who was coming off a season in which his ERA was solid with poor peripherals, Perez who had been bad for 2 years, and a rookie in Pelfrey.
At best, the Mets were slight favorites to win the division.
Bodog had them as 1-3 favorites to win the division and favorites to win the National League pennant before the season.
Top ten players 27 and under by HBT's WS by league:
AL
Age WS
24 31 Sizemore
26 26 Granderson
22 23 Upton
23 22 Carmona
24 22 Mauer
25 22 Peralta
23 22 Markakis
25 21 Crawford
24 21 Cano
26 19 Haren
23 19 Pedroia
26 19 Morneau
26 19 Swisher
25 19 Betancourt
NL
Age WS
24 34 Wright
24 30 Cabrera
27 30 Holliday
23 29 Ramirez
23 28 Fielder
25 27 Gonzalez
27 26 Howard
22 25 Tulowitzki
24 24 Reyes
24 24 Martin
But how will the NL players fare against Major League competition?
Pfffft.
I don't know if finishing first and second 9 out of the past 10 seasons is an "impenetrable death grip," but if it's not, it's pretty damn close.
"Crack" goes Big Papi's bat as he smacks the ball toward the right center fence, a grand slam home run to give the Red Sox the lead. The rally monkey looks over to see Papilbon warming in the bullpen and gets a lump in his throat.
But no......you open you eyes to see Torii run full speed toward the outfield fence and, <strike>leaps above the wall and snags the ball</strike> because it's an actual wall rather than a flexible plastic bag, he breaks every bone in his body when he slams into it. The crowd <strike>roars "Torii Torii Torii"</strike> gasps, "Oh, my god, I think he's dead!"
Red Sox still win.
If next year was 1998 it would be Tory! Torii! Tore!
Yeah, and Julio Lugo leading off for a decent part of the year dragged the Red Sox down.
I'm guessing you didn't care for Vaux' joke?
Well, reading Wok, I got the impression that Lugo did drag the Red Sox down.
But, seriously, the Red Sox won, so Lugo wasn't a bad player in 2007?
As for Wok, he hates just about all players below his high standards.
There's a reason many of us sit alone at the keyboard...
and if the Whigs lost three elections in a row, it would be..
(oh, never mind)
I'm also sympathetic to Lassus' point. I'm actually kinda in favour of that deal.
I still found Vaux and #21 very funny.
Then why do they call him Big Papi? Shouldn't it be Big Pape?
Houston Street .....now there's a easy name to spell.
... but also an easy one to mispronounce.
It was odd, since I think Vaux is a Tigers' fan.
There's a lot of uncertainty in any projection, but "giant question marks" is an exaggeration. Both teams can be expected to field very strong lineups (perhaps scoring 850-900 runs) and have above-average pitching. The Blue Jays are good enough to catch either team if they falter, but I have trouble imagining them winning 95+.
If the Twins keep Santana, they'll give Cleveland a run for their money, and Detroit can't be counted out entirely.
The Twins? How? Their offense was pretty weak already, and they just lost Hunter. Unless they have some terrific offensive prospects ready to step in, I just don't see it. They might have a better chance of contending in 2008 if they trade Santana -- because right now they have multiple holes to fill. If they can get somebody to give up three +5 WARP talents, that will more than compensate for the loss of their ace.
Could easily see the Tigers winning again, however. It was the post-World-Series fatigue that did them in this year.
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