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Lance Berkman may retire, return to Rice University

Funny…he doesn’t look like an owl.

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St. Louis Cardinals first baseman Lance Berkman told FOX 26 Sports on Thursday if he chooses to retire this offseason, he has a plan in place which includes returning to Rice University to finish his degree and work as a student assistant for Owls baseball coach Wayne Graham.

Berkman has already reached out to the academic advisor for athletics at Rice to help him get ready for his return to college for the first since time 1997 should he choose to go that route.

Berkman is considering retiring because of a chronically sore right knee. His immediate goal is to get as healthy as possible and help the Cardinals make the playoffs.

...“If I do decide to retire my next move is going to be to enroll at Rice and to be a student assistant for the baseball team,” Berkman said.

“I’ve talked to the academic advisor at Rice, Julie Griswold (associate director of academic advising for athletics), and she’s kind of helping me put some thoughts together about how to go about it,” Berkman said.

“She’s talked to the administration about ‘can I continue and just go ahead and get the coaching and teaching degree even though that’s not a current (plan)?’

“In other words was I grandfathered in on that or am I going to have to pursue another degree, which I already have a lot of the hours required for a kinesiology degree for example.
Hopefully I can just get grandfathered in and keep going. If not, it’s not a disaster.”

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   1. JJ1986 Posted: September 06, 2012 at 06:25 PM (#4228718)
   2. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: September 06, 2012 at 06:26 PM (#4228720)
returning to Rice University to finish his degree and work as a student assistant for Owls baseball coach Wayne Graham.

Wha? This man has made over $100 million in his career, and he wants to be...a student assistant? Really?
   3. AndrewJ Posted: September 06, 2012 at 06:26 PM (#4228722)
I, for one, hopes Lance gets his degree and starts receiving those bigger paychecks college graduates are guaranteed.
   4. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: September 06, 2012 at 07:01 PM (#4228738)
Does that leave Jeff Niemann as the the only Owl in the MLB?

-checks-

Wow, no. Phil Humber went to Rice?

current Owls (in MLB this year, others might be in minor leagues, a few played 2009-11 but not this year)
Niemann
Humber
Joe Savery (Phillies)
Lucas Luetge (Mariners)

source: baseball-almanac

I love Wayne Graham but Berkman would be a cool Rice baseball coach in the future.
   5. Swedish Chef Posted: September 06, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4228739)
Wha? This man has made over $100 million in his career, and he wants to be...a student assistant? Really?

There is something to be said for having modest ambitions, and not wanting to reinvent the MMO or the like.
   6. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: September 06, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4228742)

I, for one, hopes Lance gets his degree and starts receiving those bigger paychecks college graduates are guaranteed.


That reminds me of this Onion article:

advice from Roy Halladay
   7. AndrewJ Posted: September 06, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4228757)
Sydney Biddle Barrows, aka The Mayflower Madam, spoke at my college just after her whole story broke. She told the student newspaper she thought students should major in liberal arts.
   8. base ball chick Posted: September 06, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4228759)
the man has made 100 million dollars.

i thought youse guys were all hot for higher education. why on earth shouldn't lance go back to finish his degree? what's wrong with being a student assistant? i think it's kewl. who else wouldn't think it was beneath his dignity to do something like that?

lance ROCKS!!!
   9. asdf1234 Posted: September 06, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4228761)

There is something to be said for having modest ambitions, and not wanting to reinvent the MMO or the like.


I'd settle for a software kickstarter in which Berkman's lefty swing is used as the holy grail for young hitters.
   10. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 06, 2012 at 08:10 PM (#4228770)
Wha? This man has made over $100 million in his career, and he wants to be...a student assistant? Really?

Well that's the beauty of it. He's made $100 mil and can pretty much choose what he wants to do(lucky guy) and he chooses to finish his education, stay working in baseball and pass on whatever knowledge he found useful to him to a new generation of players, I for one, reckon it's a very cool thing to do.
   11. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: September 06, 2012 at 08:29 PM (#4228788)
He could use half his fortune to start a video game company...that has a chance to work out well....

All kidding aside - good for him.
   12. base ball chick Posted: September 06, 2012 at 08:36 PM (#4228797)
other rice owl from their CWS championship in the majors - paul janish, the SS

i wouldn't have thought he'd be the one position player to succeed from that team. but it's baseball and youneverknow

wade townsend got a nice signing bonus, although he crapped out at AA. he doesn't need to work neither
   13. AndrewJ Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:29 PM (#4228832)
Maybe Rice will give Lance a few life experience credits. Certainly last year's Game 6 performance is worth something.
   14. Brian White Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:30 PM (#4228833)
why on earth shouldn't lance go back to finish his degree?


Emmitt Smith went back to Florida to finish his degree in the middle of his NFL career. I always thought that was pretty cool, and I think the same about what Berkman is doing.
   15. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:39 PM (#4228836)
wade townsend got a nice signing bonus, although he crapped out at AA. he doesn't need to work neither


A $1.5 million bonus might not be enough for a guy in his 20s to retire.
   16. asdf1234 Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:41 PM (#4228837)
Certainly last year's Game 6 performance is worth something.


Even if his post-baseball career goes Schilling up, he'll always have a place in the Cardinal Caravan.
   17. Tricky Dick Posted: September 06, 2012 at 10:33 PM (#4228893)
Brock Holt, also from Rice, is now on the Pirates roster.
   18. valuearbitrageur Posted: September 06, 2012 at 10:36 PM (#4228896)
A $1.5 million bonus might not be enough for a guy in his 20s to retire.


You mean something like $750k after state and federal taxes, plus agents commissions.
   19. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:02 PM (#4228926)
Paul Janish also attended Rice.
   20. OCF Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:19 PM (#4228938)
Rice has "residential colleges," and every Rice student belongs to one of them. There were 8 such colleges when I was a student there, each with a few hundred students. (There are one or two more now.) If you move off campus? Doesn't matter, you're still a member of that particular college. I'll personally identify myself as a member of Baker College. (Named for James A. Baker. No, not the guy who was Secretary of State. His grandfather instead.) So I'll bet that if Berkman goes back, he'll still be considered to be a member of the very same residential college that he belonged to the first time around.
   21. GregD Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4228942)
Rice has "residential colleges," and every Rice student belongs to one of them. There were 8 such colleges when I was a student there, each with a few hundred students. (There are one or two more now.) If you move off campus? Doesn't matter, you're still a member of that particular college. I'll personally identify myself as a member of Baker College. (Named for James A. Baker. No, not the guy who was Secretary of State. His grandfather instead.) So I'll bet that if Berkman goes back, he'll still be considered to be a member of the very same residential college that he belonged to the first time around.
Clearly we have now solved the mystery of why he would return to school. Baker College forever!
   22. OCF Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:37 PM (#4228948)
I didn't say I knew which college Berkman was in; I don't. The Baker College reference had to do with me.
   23. thok Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:43 PM (#4228951)
The coolest part about Baker is that he helped solve the mystery of Will Rice's murder. The butler did it, with the help of a lawyer.
   24. AROM Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:05 AM (#4228960)
Wha? This man has made over $100 million in his career, and he wants to be...a student assistant? Really?


Coincidently, I was once a student assistant, and would like to have 100 million.
   25. Cris E Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:20 AM (#4228965)
Wow, no. Phil Humber went to Rice?

Well after he let the Twins bat around on him in a third of an inning this week he might not qualify as "in the majors" much longer.
   26. Cris E Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:24 AM (#4228966)
I didn't say I knew which college Berkman was in; I don't.

I bet he's got big plans to take over the head baseball coaching job someday and from there use some of his $100m to get a ninth college created: Berkman College.
   27. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:16 AM (#4228985)
Wow, check out the cameltoe on Berkman!
   28. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: September 07, 2012 at 02:38 AM (#4229006)
The headline makes me think Berkman's going to star in a movie where he retires from MLB, only to discover a long-forgotten loophole in NCAA regulations that grants him an extra year of eligibility.

"This year, Lance Berkman will discover that you're never too old to learn. Lance Berkman is Lance Berkman in...'Back to School.'"
   29. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: September 07, 2012 at 05:37 AM (#4229021)
The headline makes me think Berkman's going to star in a movie where he retires from MLB, only to discover a long-forgotten loophole in NCAA regulations that grants him an extra year of eligibility.

"This year, Lance Berkman will discover that you're never too old to learn. Lance Berkman is Lance Berkman in...'Back to School.'"


Somebody write this screenplay, now!

Never mind...I'll do it...
   30. with Glavinesque control and Madduxian poise Posted: September 07, 2012 at 10:33 AM (#4229187)
There are, I believe, 11 colleges now. I was an original member of the ninth college, Martel. Berkman, from campus lore when I was there, is a member of Sid Richardson, which is a tower. The campus legend was that he threw a sofa off the top floor of Sid some late weekend night, motivation unknown.

(I'll do it, though it may be outdated at this point: Detectives believe alcohol may have been involved.)
   31. TerpNats Posted: September 07, 2012 at 11:18 AM (#4229244)
"This year, Lance Berkman will discover that you're never too old to learn. Lance Berkman is Lance Berkman in...'Back to School.'"
"Bill James for everybody!"
   32. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: September 07, 2012 at 11:20 AM (#4229251)
When I went there, I was in Hufflepuff.
   33. John M. Perkins Posted: September 07, 2012 at 11:29 AM (#4229274)
WRC '78X
   34. OCF Posted: September 07, 2012 at 11:31 AM (#4229278)
The campus legend was that he threw a sofa off the top floor of Sid some late weekend night, motivation unknown.

I my time, there were slingshot water balloon wars. The most celebrated slingshot exploit was a balloon launched from ground level that cleared the top of Sid Rich.
   35. Darnell McDonald had a farm Posted: September 07, 2012 at 11:49 AM (#4229308)
If I had $100M I would do nothing. I would relax, sit on my ass all day, I would do nothing
   36. John M. Perkins Posted: September 07, 2012 at 11:59 AM (#4229321)
I my time, there were slingshot water balloon wars. The most celebrated slingshot exploit was a balloon launched from ground level that cleared the top of Sid Rich.


In my time they were paint balloons.
   37. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:01 PM (#4229323)

Wha? This man has made over $100 million in his career, and he wants to be...a student assistant? Really?

Why not? If I didn't have to work to pay the bills anymore, I'd love to spend my time coaching sports and taking random classes in things that interest me. This is assuming that family obligations prevented me from simply traveling around the world.
   38. Steve Treder Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:23 PM (#4229349)
If I had $100M I would do nothing. I would relax, sit on my ass all day, I would do nothing

Me, I'd do two chicks at the same time.
   39. Traderdave Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:34 PM (#4229362)
I know it sounds great, Steve, but it's honestly awkward as hell, not at all like they do it in the movies.
   40. Steve Treder Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:44 PM (#4229379)
Well, in any case, you don't need 100 million dollars to do nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin: he's broke, and don't do sh!t.
   41. Traderdave Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:45 PM (#4229381)
And WTF is that costume supposed to be?
   42. Steve Treder Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:47 PM (#4229386)
Good question. A turd?
   43. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:50 PM (#4229390)
It's one of those sumo things!
   44. GregD Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:51 PM (#4229395)
Well, in any case, you don't need 100 million dollars to do nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin: he's broke, and don't do sh!t.
Watch out for your cornhole, bud
   45. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:52 PM (#4229397)
It's one of those sumo things!


It looks like one of those sumo things after gastric band surgery.
   46. OCF Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:55 PM (#4229404)
WRC '78X

Maybe a little cryptic for some readers here, but I can read that. I think the high-flying water balloon I referred to in #34 was launched from one of the entrance balconies of the "new wing" of Will Rice. From that angle it probably landed on Main Street. Which is, shall we say, a bit reckless, but I never heard of any damaged cars or accidents caused.
   47. just plain joe Posted: September 07, 2012 at 12:58 PM (#4229409)
Well, in any case, you don't need 100 million dollars to do nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin: he's broke, and don't do sh!t.


We might have relatives in common, who knew.
   48. esseff Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:02 PM (#4229420)
When I went there, I was in Hufflepuff.


They've been making those same jokes for years about UC San Diego, which also "sorts" students into six colleges that are unrelated to major but do have themes.
   49. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:11 PM (#4229437)
They've been making those same jokes for years about UC San Diego, which also "sorts" students into six colleges that are unrelated to major but do have themes.

Man, the educational system does have problems if we're organizing schools by lazy plot device!
   50. Bitter Mouse Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:20 PM (#4229446)
The soon-to-be-ex went to Rice (and is crazy proud of the fact), not sure which college though.

And going back to school is very cool.
   51. Rants Mulliniks Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4229462)
Good for Berkman. I for one could never understand the mindset of older players hanging on, playing through injuries and pain, living out of suitcases, and being away from family when you have millions in the bank. Same as I don't understand people that don't quit their mindless retail/labour job when they win the lottery.
   52. Swedish Chef Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:35 PM (#4229465)
Man, the educational system does have problems if we're organizing schools by lazy plot device!

Hey, it works for Hogwarths!
   53. bjhanke Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:37 PM (#4229469)
More power to him. If I ended up with that kind of money (or anything like it), the first thing I'd do is go back and finish my Ph.D. at Washington U. here in STL. Rice is, if anything, an even stronger school. If you can handle classes at Rice, and have the cash to do whatever you please, well, "feed your head." The fact that you're a MLB baseball player doesn't cost you your status as a thinking being. As for being a student assistant, well, you get to combine the appeal of thinking about things with the appeal of baseball. Why not? - Brock Hanke
   54. JJ1986 Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:38 PM (#4229470)
Hey, it works for Hogwarths!


Yeah, if you don't segregate all of the slightly bad kids, then they might not grow up to be evil.
   55. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: September 07, 2012 at 01:44 PM (#4229473)
speaking of Owls

(Frank) Ryan attended graduate school during the first part of his playing career, and in 1965, he earned his Ph.D. from Rice. His thesis was titled, "Characterization of the Set of Asymptotic Values of a Function Holomorphic in the Unit Disc." He started teaching at Rice during his career and, during his time with the Browns, held a position as an assistant professor at the Case Institute of Technology, teaching undergraduate courses and conducting research in complex analysis.

Ryan’s second career was fodder for many jokes by sportswriters. Red Smith wrote that the Browns' offense consisted of a quarterback who understood Einstein’s theory of relativity and ten teammates who didn’t know there was one. Ryan was somewhat put off by the focus on his academic life, as he considered himself to be a regular football player.
   56. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: September 07, 2012 at 02:08 PM (#4229513)
Yeah, if you don't segregate all of the slightly bad kids, then they might not grow up to be evil.

It's one of my pet peeves about the Harry Potter series. There's quite a tendency for characters to be labeled good guy/bad guy by the author simply putting them in an easily identifiable group. That and the tendency for Harry Potter to be the center of attention of every event, no matter how insignificant, and all events being relayed in the context of how they relate to Harry Potter. It makes late-1980s WWF usage of Hulk Hogan look conservative by comparison.
   57. just plain joe Posted: September 07, 2012 at 02:31 PM (#4229547)
Ryan was somewhat put off by the focus on his academic life, as he considered himself to be a regular football player.


He was good enough to be a starter for several years, back when the NFL was much smaller than it is today.
   58. Zach Posted: September 07, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4229629)
If I had $100M I would do nothing. I would relax, sit on my ass all day, I would do nothing

I think college could be a nice way to transition from intense, purposeful activity to a more laid back lifestyle. Gives you something to do besides drinking at noon.
   59. JJ1986 Posted: September 07, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4229642)
It's one of my pet peeves about the Harry Potter series. There's quite a tendency for characters to be labeled good guy/bad guy by the author simply putting them in an easily identifiable group. That and the tendency for Harry Potter to be the center of attention of every event, no matter how insignificant, and all events being relayed in the context of how they relate to Harry Potter. It makes late-1980s WWF usage of Hulk Hogan look conservative by comparison.


I think Rowling literally has no idea what would motivate someone to commit evil. The bad guys aren't really motivated by fear or greed or selfishness or anything else. They pretty much just want to be bad.
   60. bjhanke Posted: September 07, 2012 at 03:59 PM (#4229644)
OH, yes, I remember Ryan. I majored in Math at Vanderbilt, tried one grad school course, and realized that grad school math was too abstract for me. Ryan has a Ph.D. in Math from Rice. I understand the first part of his thesis title, "Characterization of the Set of Asymptotic Values." The rest of it, "of a Function Holomorphic in the Unit Disc", is beyond me. I have no idea what "Holomorphic" or "The Unit Disc" might mean at all. And the guy was a good NFL quarterback. Makes me jealous. - Brock Hanke
   61. with Glavinesque control and Madduxian poise Posted: September 08, 2012 at 11:23 PM (#4230625)
Since this is the de facto Rice thread, I feel obliged to bring up the fact that Rice, the second-smallest school in D1 and one of the worst perennially in football, beat the University of Kansas today.
   62. OCF Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:57 AM (#4230713)
the second-smallest school in D1

OK, I'll bite. Who's smaller? Northwestern?

The old Southwest Conference was a pretty odd mix of schools. The state schools: UT and TAMU, Arkansas and Texas Tech and (new to the conference in my time), Houston. The big privates, with more or less sectarian tendencies: TCU, SMU, Baylor. And little tiny non-sectarian RIce.

I was there on that notorious day when the Owl football team beat the Aggies and the MOB (Marching Owl Band) made fun of the Aggies. They had to smuggle the band out of the stadium in food service vans to get them to safety.
   63. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: September 09, 2012 at 02:21 AM (#4230785)
OK, I'll bite. Who's smaller? Northwestern?


Wake Forest, I think.
   64. yb125 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 03:49 AM (#4230801)
When I went there, I was in Hufflepuff.


They've been making those same jokes for years about UC San Diego, which also "sorts" students into six colleges that are unrelated to major but do have themes.


Funny enough last year for First Friday the theme was Harry Potter and we had a big world of Harry Potter exhibit in the main Library and the Engineering school wrote the code of Dobby's skin.

Anyways one of the main things about the colleges is it lets you have a lot more say of your GE's since they are college specific.
   65. thok Posted: September 09, 2012 at 09:19 AM (#4230833)
OK, I'll bite. Who's smaller?


Somewhat surprisingly, Tulsa. (This is only counting undergraduates; all three military academies have more undergraduates than Rice but less total students.)

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