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Not really of the same degree as say a poor infield fly rule call, or a denkinger call or missing a guy reaching over a fence. It was a bang bang play that really required slow motion instant replay to get correct. This play here was pretty obvious, just possible bad positioning of the ump.
Well, now I know Ted Williams played LF and pitched in a game in 1940. :-)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS194008241.shtml
(Too much?)
EDIT: Well, if you're a Tigers fan I suppose it's okay. Let's not be ridiculous.
Smoltz pointed it out, but there isn't a lot of evidence that 3 days rest is bad for effectiveness. A lot of modern guys aren't that good because they don't do it much, but there is no real reason to expect a pitcher to not be effective with 3 days.
The reason for 4 days rest has more to do with health and the idea that it is better for their long term well being.
And Swisher needs to have his eyes checked.
Absolutely agree. I was upset with the infield fly rule call and that went my teams way, bad calls ruin good games.
Seriously, Swisher can't see.
And you Yankee fans have every reason to gripe. It's hard to watch your team lose and look bad doing it and get bad calls at the same time.
It sort of belies your not liking them, though, in my opinion, if it bugs you.
Edit - Coke to JE
Still, a terrible call. Way out.
335 - Believe that rule is pretty much only used for wall-related calls - fair/foul homers, HR vs. off the wall, that kind of stuff.
always makes me smile
That is true, but that's now 3 plays in the OF he should have made that led directly to runs.
1. the only reason Selig cares about the Yankee results is that he wants to implement a salary cap, the writers are already doing his job by pointing out (constantly) that all the teams remaining are top ten in payroll.
2. Selig wants instant replay, and will most certaintly use this to help get it, but he's just as bad as everyone else in that he has already targeted trapped balls as his next goal (I just don't get it, about the only play you can't have replay on, because it will require a lot more subjectivity if you change the call, is trapped balls, so why focus on that play?)
no sympathy for the umps as they as a group have been belligerent and confrontational for several seasons
fire them all as far as i am concerned
Yep, I find it weird, but it seems that is the goal of everyone in power that is supporting instant replay. I want it only for plays that effectively ended the play. Force outs, that play at second base, etc. and of course only if it can be done fast(not an on field discussion) and confidently(if you can't make the decision in about 10-15 seconds, the play stands)
edit...that was for 354
Yep. The Cano call yesterday was a case for replay, as it was difficult. The ###### today is an example that MLB is employing umpires that have no business being in the majors.
Agreed the call was brutal; Infante's arm stopped about 6" short of the bag for like a full second. He even had the "oh sh*t I got got caught" look on his face.We won't be giving the runs back, not with our bullpen.
I'm guessing Dotel for the 9th. Anyone but the unmentionable one. But Beniot would not make me happy.
Yeah, well those were Dodger fans. Highly doubt many of them or their descendants root for the Yankees.
Come on. It was not like the Mauer play, in which blue had an unobstructed view of the ball landing in fair territory. This was a blown call too but, as Smoltz and Darling pointed out, the ump probably didn't see the tag.
I think umpires, looking over the catcher's inside shoulder, aren't in a good position to call the away pitch to lefties and generally guess a lot. Especially when thrown by a lefty.
I view it as a win-win. Valverde is out, whoever is in will be better, all that "guys who can close" stuff is overrated, and the Tigers came back and won.
Lots of the sportswriter type crowd thinks it is impossible to win with a bullpen in "turmoil" aand no one knowing their roles. Well the entire team has handled a monumental amount of turmoil pretty damn well the last few days.
Jeffrey Brian Nelson (born on June 1, 1965) is an umpire in Major League Baseball who was named to the National League staff prior to the 1999 season, and has worked throughout both major leagues since 2000. Nelson, a graduate of Bethel University in St. Paul, Minnesota, wears uniform number 45. He is the first legally blind umpire to work in the major leagues.
Yeah, Red Sox fans were doing that stuff to C.B. Bucknor's Wikipedia page in the 2009 ALDS. And damn, that just reminded me that that was the last time the Red Sox makes the playoffs.
I seem to remember that Curt Schilling had similar feelings and even broke one of them once.
Yes, watching Valverde try to close is turmoil squared.
That said, I have heard an ex-pitcher analyst (Bill Krueger) say that the bullpen works best when they all know their roles. When the phone rings, they know who it's for.
Again: From the ump's vantage point (six feet above the ground) he probably would not have seen the tag. (Admittedly, I don't know offhand where second-base umpires typically go on a single to right and runner rounds second base.)
It's not, which is why I think the powers that be want to make it the next step on adding instant replay. I think they are trying to show how it doesn't interfere with the pace of the game. Of course the way that they have implemented it up to this point in time, has absolutely prevented them from proving that point. Any system that requires that the umps on the field to view the replay, is inherently a poorly designed system.
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