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Sorry, got a little carried away there.

4 PM: Detroit Tigers (Anibal Sanchez) @ New York Yankees (Hiroki Kuroda), TBS. DET leads 1-0.
8 PM: St. Louis Cardinals (Lance Lynn) @ San Francisco Giants (Madison Bumgarner), FOX. Game 1 of Best-Of-7.

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   301. Austin Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4269917)
Which is worse? Avisail Garcia, starting right fielder, or Avisail Garcia, high-leverage pinch hitter?
   302. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4269918)
Why exactly is Logan pitching...?
   303. Gamingboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4269919)
CHECKLIST:
Conradian Play []
Web Gem [ X]
1-2-3-4-5-6 inning [ X]
Strike Out of Side [X ]
2+ pitching changes in single half-inning [ ]
Dramatic late-inning homer [ ]
Stolen base [X ]
Blown call [ X]
Blown call costs game [ ]
Caught stealing [X]
Idiot runs on the field [ ]
Regular-season starter warms up in bullpen [ ]
Game goes into extras [ ]
Shapeshifting strikezone [ ]
Replay review [ ]
Inning-Ending DP [ ]
Play at the plate [ ]
Baserunning blunder [X ]
Bunt [ ]
THIS TRAIN! [X]
Verlander in dugout [X]
Sabathia in dugout [ ]
Trout mentioned (fish or ballplayer) [ ]
Miguel Cabrera does something awesome [ ]
Ichiro does something awesome [ ]
A-Rod strikes out (assuming he even plays) [X ]
A-Rod PH for OR pinch-hits [ ]
Raul Ibanez is a effing clutch god [ ]
Image of Girardi looking at binder [ ]
Shutdown inning [X ]
TBS has typo [ ]
Game goes past midnight [ ]
Girardi's playing career mentioned [ ]
Anibal Sanchez's no-hitter talked about [X ]
Yankee Stadium has large swaths of empty seats [ X] (If it's beyond the Legends Seats [ X])
Prince Fielder goes deep [ ]
Announcers talk about Derek Jeter like he died or something [ ]
Valverde meltdown [ ]
Balk [ ]
Reggie Jackson is in the crowd [ ]
WILD BRIAN WILSON APPEARS [ ]
Cardinals crazy comeback retrospective [ ]
FREESE! [ ]
Pitcher gets a hit [ ]
Buster Posey does something awesome [ ]
Barry Bonds mentioned [ ]
FOX personality pointed out in crowd [ ]
NFL reference (beyond reference to NFL on FOX commercials) [ ]
Reference to McCarver's singing album [ ]
Mark McGwire mentioned by name [ ]
Willie Mays is in the crowd [ ]
Triples alley [ ]
Ball goes into McCovey cove [ ]
Pujols mentioned [ ]
"Catching Molina Brother" [ ]
FOX introduces us to a commercial that becomes a meme [ ]
God Bless America is shown on TV [ ]
Joe Buck and Tim McCarver spend extended amount of time talking about Jeter [ ]
"Torture" mentioned [ ]
Cardinals are behind at any point [ ]
Joe Buck arrives at AT&T late or JUST in time for the game []
   304. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4269920)
Just yesterday the ump ###### them out of a run by calling Cano out at 1B.


Not really of the same degree as say a poor infield fly rule call, or a denkinger call or missing a guy reaching over a fence. It was a bang bang play that really required slow motion instant replay to get correct. This play here was pretty obvious, just possible bad positioning of the ump.
   305. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4269921)
hold on Logan is facing a righty 1-0 in the 8th?!?!?
   306. fra paolo Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4269922)
And the umpire's mistake is compounded. Unbelievable.
   307. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4269923)
Oh now the NY fans have something to complain about.
   308. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4269924)
I'm amazed none of us came up with Lasorda or Dierker, those are pretty obvious.
Lasorda was mentioned. Dierker though, yeah.
   309. JJ1986 Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4269925)
Did Swisher always have such a bad arm?
   310. bobm Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4269926)
[272] Maybe the one-game-pitched limit was a tad too low for these purposes ...

Well, now I know Ted Williams played LF and pitched in a game in 1940. :-)

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS194008241.shtml
   311. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4269927)
Oh, boy, it's Joba time ...
   312. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4269928)
God ####### dammit Girardi you are the biggest ####### piece of #### ####### on the planet. YOU HAD DAVID ROBERTSON AVAILABLE.
   313. esseff Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:41 PM (#4269929)
But . . . but . . . the umpire pointed emphatically at the base.
   314. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:41 PM (#4269930)
Well, I'm sorry if this is going to offend the delicate sensibilities of everyone whose team wasn't any good, but I really am not enjoying this Yankee team. Even the stuff that isn't their fault sucks. Ugh.
   315. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4269933)
I went grocery shopping. Just went back to look at the replays. That is a killer bad call.
   316. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4269934)
314- Yeah, all the hater-haters should cram it up their ########. #### the umps, #### Girardi, #### this team and #### all of you.

(Too much?)
   317. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4269935)
I'm just going to go ahead and say it: if you're not upset about that call because it happened to the Yankees, you're a bad baseball fan.

EDIT: Well, if you're a Tigers fan I suppose it's okay. Let's not be ridiculous.
   318. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4269936)
314- Yeah, all the hater-haters should cram it up their ########. #### the umps, #### Girardi, #### this team and #### all of you.

(Too much?)
I'll allow it.
   319. Gamingboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4269938)
You guys hear that Wieters left a signed bat for Joba as a "get well soon" gift... with note on it of something like "don't saw this one off"
   320. bunyon Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:44 PM (#4269939)
I came to this game late, when Kuroda still had the perfect game going but lost it the following inning. I am absolutely flabbergasted at how great he's been on short rest. There seemed to be every reason to think he'd do terribly, and now he has eleven strikeouts, no walks, and almost every ball in play beaten into the ground? Insane. It will be a real shame for him if the Yankees can't score.

Smoltz pointed it out, but there isn't a lot of evidence that 3 days rest is bad for effectiveness. A lot of modern guys aren't that good because they don't do it much, but there is no real reason to expect a pitcher to not be effective with 3 days.

The reason for 4 days rest has more to do with health and the idea that it is better for their long term well being.


And Swisher needs to have his eyes checked.
   321. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:44 PM (#4269940)
(Too much?)
Utterly appropriate here.
   322. crict Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4269941)
So now that umpires have affected a Yankees, will Selig implement full instant replays? As soon as Tuesday?
   323. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4269943)
Swisher has been even worse in the field than at the plate.
   324. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4269945)
Cabrera with the Beltre Appeal.
   325. Gamingboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4269946)
Cabrera does something awesome [X]
   326. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:46 PM (#4269947)
Kuroda has a look in his eye that reads "don't ####### take me out of my ####### ballgame" in any language.
   327. JE (Jason) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:46 PM (#4269948)
3-0. Just one more run and then Leyland can bring in Valverde!
   328. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:46 PM (#4269949)
Swisher has been even worse in the field than at the plate.
He did just throw a guy out at second base, despite what the umpire thinks.
   329. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:46 PM (#4269950)
I'm just going to go ahead and say it: if you're not upset about that call because it happened to the Yankees, you're a bad baseball fan.


Absolutely agree. I was upset with the infield fly rule call and that went my teams way, bad calls ruin good games.
   330. bunyon Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:46 PM (#4269951)
@319: I hope that's true. Awesome.


Seriously, Swisher can't see.


And you Yankee fans have every reason to gripe. It's hard to watch your team lose and look bad doing it and get bad calls at the same time.

It sort of belies your not liking them, though, in my opinion, if it bugs you.
   331. Hey - you and Tommy Lasorda...I hate Tommy Lasorda Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:46 PM (#4269952)
Just what is needed to get Valverde checked off the checklist.

Edit - Coke to JE
   332. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4269953)
3-0. Just one more run and then Leyland can bring in Valverde!
It would build his confidence!
   333. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4269954)
Girardi seems to basically believe in never using his best relievers if the team is trailing at all.
   334. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4269955)
Long top of the 8th. Any chance Sanchez comes out for the bottom of the 8th?
   335. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4269956)
Didn't they put in some sort of replay change for the playoffs last year? Or am I crazy? Or both? Wrong sport? Or all three?
   336. bunyon Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4269957)
@329: especially when it could so easily be reversed. I suspect that the runner's body blocked the view of the tag. You expect the tag on the outstretched arm, not the underbelly.

Still, a terrible call. Way out.
   337. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4269958)
330 - I admit it, I love the Yankees. :(

335 - Believe that rule is pretty much only used for wall-related calls - fair/foul homers, HR vs. off the wall, that kind of stuff.
   338. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:48 PM (#4269959)
330 - I admit it, I love the Yankees. :(
There you go, big guy. I'd hug you if I could.
   339. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4269960)
wife refers to prince as "chubby puppy"

always makes me smile
   340. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4269961)
He did just throw a guy out at second base, despite what the umpire thinks.


That is true, but that's now 3 plays in the OF he should have made that led directly to runs.
   341. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4269962)
So now that umpires have affected a Yankees, will Selig implement full instant replays? As soon as Tuesday?


1. the only reason Selig cares about the Yankee results is that he wants to implement a salary cap, the writers are already doing his job by pointing out (constantly) that all the teams remaining are top ten in payroll.
2. Selig wants instant replay, and will most certaintly use this to help get it, but he's just as bad as everyone else in that he has already targeted trapped balls as his next goal (I just don't get it, about the only play you can't have replay on, because it will require a lot more subjectivity if you change the call, is trapped balls, so why focus on that play?)

   342. JJ1986 Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4269963)
Boone Logan and Clay Rapada sound like two characters in a Western movie.
   343. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4269964)
I don't really have anything else to say about this game or this team. The whole thing is just the worst.
   344. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4269965)
prince looks heavier as a tiger
   345. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:51 PM (#4269967)
341 - Also basically never happens compared to close plays on the bases. Weird.
   346. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:52 PM (#4269968)
YES....The TBS crew gets it, where it concerns instant replay.
   347. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:52 PM (#4269969)
the wife is very disappointed in prince's dyed hair
   348. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:52 PM (#4269971)
Why are defending the umpire? He completely blew the call, it was horrible. I'm willing to give them a break on the tough ones, but that's like the Joe Mauer play from a few years ago, just totally, and utterly wrong. What else can you say?
   349. Austin Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:53 PM (#4269972)
Yeah, I do feel sorry for Yankees fans at this point. They've had miserable luck in both games (the injury, a gazillion bloop hits, Houdini acts by Tiger pitchers, bad calls), and that's no fun even for a Tigers supporter.
   350. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:53 PM (#4269973)
OK, a HR here would be nice.
   351. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4269974)
tbs rubs it in on the missed call

no sympathy for the umps as they as a group have been belligerent and confrontational for several seasons

fire them all as far as i am concerned
   352. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4269975)
341 - Also basically never happens compared to close plays on the bases. Weird.


Yep, I find it weird, but it seems that is the goal of everyone in power that is supporting instant replay. I want it only for plays that effectively ended the play. Force outs, that play at second base, etc. and of course only if it can be done fast(not an on field discussion) and confidently(if you can't make the decision in about 10-15 seconds, the play stands)
   353. bunyon Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4269976)
We can debate their merits as broadcasters, but if they wanted to replace Selig with a troika of Smoltz, Darling and Ripken, I'd be cool with it.
   354. I Am Not a Number Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4269977)
Will Pena pinch-hit for ARod, or can only Girardi do that?
   355. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4269978)
Sutcliffe sounded absolutely despondent when he was talking about the missed call at 2B, and that was 5 minutes later.
   356. JJ1986 Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4269980)
The next step for instant replay should be to add a replay official who can challenge anything (except balls/strikes and probably checked swings). There's nothing separating traps from other plays.
   357. Hey - you and Tommy Lasorda...I hate Tommy Lasorda Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4269981)
Just checked Jeff Nelson's Wikipedia page. This is the current first paragraph

Jeffrey Brian Nelson (born on June 1, 1965) is an umpire in Major League Baseball who was named to the National League staff prior to the 1999 season, and has worked throughout both major leagues since 2000. Nelson, a graduate of Bethel University in St. Paul, Minnesota, wears uniform number 45. He is the first legally blind umpire to work in the major leagues.
   358. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4269982)
On the other hand, how freaking dominant are the Tigers? Except for Fat V inning, they've done nothing but throw bagels on the board for 28 innings straight!
   359. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:55 PM (#4269983)
I don't think either of them are on the active roster.

edit...that was for 354
   360. crict Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4269984)
Delmon in a hurry to get to the postgame spread.
   361. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4269985)
I'm a weird in-between space where I had to stop watching but am furiously reloading PBP.
   362. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4269986)
On the other hand, how freaking dominant are the Tigers? Except for Fat V inning, they've done nothing but throw bagels on the board for 28 innings!
I'd be more impressed the Yankees hadn't just spent all but one inning of the ALDS looking equally hapless. I really mean that, by the way, I'm not being snide. It isn't like the Tigers came in and shut down an offense firing on all cylinders. They deserve some credit, but let's not go crazy.
   363. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4269987)
Why are defending the umpire? He completely blew the call, it was horrible. I'm willing to give them a break on the tough ones, but that's like the Joe Mauer play from a few years ago, just totally, and utterly wrong. What else can you say?


Yep. The Cano call yesterday was a case for replay, as it was difficult. The ###### today is an example that MLB is employing umpires that have no business being in the majors.
   364. Austin Posted: October 14, 2012 at 06:59 PM (#4269989)
Nah, I think Delmon just feels bad about winning yesterday's game for the Tigers when Jeter was injured, and he's doing what he can to keep this game winnable for the Yankees.
   365. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:01 PM (#4269990)
Did Leyland say anything about Valverde today - as in, is he still the closer?
   366. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:01 PM (#4269991)
is that gene lamont next to leykand in the dugout?
   367. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4269993)
what a bad strike call
   368. I Am Not a Number Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4269994)
Eric Gregg?
   369. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4269995)
JESUS CHRIST #### THIS ####### ####. ROBOT ####### UMPS PLEASE. PLEEEEEASE. ####.
   370. Tim D Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4269996)
It's the Tiger stripes that make Prince look heavier.

Agreed the call was brutal; Infante's arm stopped about 6" short of the bag for like a full second. He even had the "oh sh*t I got got caught" look on his face.We won't be giving the runs back, not with our bullpen.

I'm guessing Dotel for the 9th. Anyone but the unmentionable one. But Beniot would not make me happy.

   371. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4269999)
On the plus side, this should rule out the idea that the umpires were somehow biased towards the Yankees with the call on the foul pole/HR last series.
   372. Tim D Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4270000)
I wondered when Cano was going to start to hear it.
   373. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4270001)
when gil hodges went zero for a world series churches in brooklyn prayed for him
   374. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4270002)
So Cano actually takes two balls well outside and they're both called strikes. The umpires don't need to help the Tigers out here; the Yankees are plenty capable of losing this on their own.
   375. Austin Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:04 PM (#4270003)
What's Cano's hitless AB streak now? 0-27?
   376. Tim D Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4270004)
That is Gene Lamont. Looks pretty good to Bosox fans right now I bet.
   377. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4270005)
That's a brilliant quote by Leyland, if accurate. He says he's keeping Valverde as the closer, but not closing with him? I mean, come on.
   378. Gamingboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:05 PM (#4270006)
when gil hodges went zero for a world series churches in brooklyn prayed for him


Yeah, well those were Dodger fans. Highly doubt many of them or their descendants root for the Yankees.
   379. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4270007)
the yankees do understand the point is to hit the ball correct?
   380. Gamingboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:07 PM (#4270008)
Prince Fielder: "I got you, man."
   381. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:07 PM (#4270009)
I really hope those two pitches to Cano were just regular incompetence and not a punishment for Cano "showing up" the umpires (being upset when they drastically ###### up).
   382. Hey - you and Tommy Lasorda...I hate Tommy Lasorda Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:07 PM (#4270010)
Prince puts him in a Tiger hug
   383. JE (Jason) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:09 PM (#4270011)
Why are defending the umpire? He completely blew the call, it was horrible. I'm willing to give them a break on the tough ones, but that's like the Joe Mauer play from a few years ago, just totally, and utterly wrong. What else can you say?

Come on. It was not like the Mauer play, in which blue had an unobstructed view of the ball landing in fair territory. This was a blown call too but, as Smoltz and Darling pointed out, the ump probably didn't see the tag.
   384. Gotham Dave Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4270013)
383 - Not seeing what you have to see is as bad, if not worse, as seeing the wrong thing.
   385. esseff Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4270014)
I really hope those two pitches to Cano were just regular incompetence and not a punishment for Cano "showing up" the umpires (being upset when they drastically ###### up).


I think umpires, looking over the catcher's inside shoulder, aren't in a good position to call the away pitch to lefties and generally guess a lot. Especially when thrown by a lefty.
   386. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4270015)
what happened to Robertson? did I black out when they explained why the #### Girardi didn't use him?
   387. Tim D Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4270016)
Leyland said Valverde is still the closer but he isn't going to be closing until, well, until he closes again. And he is still a "big part of this team." So that was really clear.

I view it as a win-win. Valverde is out, whoever is in will be better, all that "guys who can close" stuff is overrated, and the Tigers came back and won.

Lots of the sportswriter type crowd thinks it is impossible to win with a bullpen in "turmoil" aand no one knowing their roles. Well the entire team has handled a monumental amount of turmoil pretty damn well the last few days.
   388. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4270017)
I view it as a win-win. Valverde is out, whoever is in will be better, all that "guys who can close" stuff is overrated, and the Tigers came back and won.
Unless, of course, Albuquerque/Benoit/Coke/Dotel blow the save tonight. Then, ####.
   389. JJ1986 Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4270018)
How often does an ump have to make a trap call? It doesn't feel like an important thing.
   390. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4270021)
So Infante hits a bomb to redeem himself (and the ump)?
   391. JJ1986 Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4270022)
Benoit warming.
   392. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4270023)
Did I miss it or are they seriously not planning on using replay to overturn blown calls on the bases?
   393. bobm Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4270024)
Smoltz ######## about Questec? He says it was unfair to the umpires. What a joke.
   394. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:16 PM (#4270025)
Just checked Jeff Nelson's Wikipedia page. This is the current first paragraph

Jeffrey Brian Nelson (born on June 1, 1965) is an umpire in Major League Baseball who was named to the National League staff prior to the 1999 season, and has worked throughout both major leagues since 2000. Nelson, a graduate of Bethel University in St. Paul, Minnesota, wears uniform number 45. He is the first legally blind umpire to work in the major leagues.


Yeah, Red Sox fans were doing that stuff to C.B. Bucknor's Wikipedia page in the 2009 ALDS. And damn, that just reminded me that that was the last time the Red Sox makes the playoffs.
   395. Gamingboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:16 PM (#4270026)

Smoltz ######## about Questec? He says it was unfair to the umpires. What a joke.


I seem to remember that Curt Schilling had similar feelings and even broke one of them once.
   396. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4270027)
Lots of the sportswriter type crowd thinks it is impossible to win with a bullpen in "turmoil" aand no one knowing their roles. Well the entire team has handled a monumental amount of turmoil pretty damn well the last few days.

Yes, watching Valverde try to close is turmoil squared.

That said, I have heard an ex-pitcher analyst (Bill Krueger) say that the bullpen works best when they all know their roles. When the phone rings, they know who it's for.
   397. JE (Jason) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:18 PM (#4270028)
Not seeing what you have to see is as bad, if not worse, as seeing the wrong thing.

Again: From the ump's vantage point (six feet above the ground) he probably would not have seen the tag. (Admittedly, I don't know offhand where second-base umpires typically go on a single to right and runner rounds second base.)
   398. cardsfanboy Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4270029)
How often does an ump have to make a trap call? It doesn't feel like an important thing.


It's not, which is why I think the powers that be want to make it the next step on adding instant replay. I think they are trying to show how it doesn't interfere with the pace of the game. Of course the way that they have implemented it up to this point in time, has absolutely prevented them from proving that point. Any system that requires that the umps on the field to view the replay, is inherently a poorly designed system.
   399. bunyon Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:21 PM (#4270030)
Ibanez must think he can hit anything.
   400. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 14, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4270032)
I will say this, given the Yankees haven't done ####, it's hard to complain about that call too much besides the principle of getting it wrong. I suspect I'd be more worked up if the Yankees weren't so ####### pathetic.
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