This must be a double post. We had one for Game 4 yesterday.

THIS RAIN! [X]

Misirlou wins a primey.

Can I delete my post? Duck's really should be the first thing people see.

Never stood around for a 2 hour non-rain rain delay before. Suppose it's better than standing around in the actual rain.

I went to a Marlin game in 1993 and about the 4th inning it poured, absolutely poured Miami style for about 20 minutes. Unfortunately when they were putting the tarp on the field one of the groundskeepers fell down and got trapped under the tarp so they had to pull it back up. Because of that the rain just dumped on the field waterlogging it. Even though it was a short storm the delay stretched about 3 1/2 hours. One of about 3-4 games I've left early in my life.

Worst actual rain delay I ever sat through was about a 5-6 hour delay at Fenway in 2006. The Sox and Rangers were scheduled for a split admission DH after being rained out the night before and I was there for the 1PM game. Well, it rained but they knew they had a window later in the day. Around 3 or so they announced that the nightcap was cancelled and they were just going to wait it out for the "afternoon" game. They got going around 6PM. Thank God I was under the roof or I wouldn't have stayed.

Worst actual rain delay I ever sat through was about a 5-6 hour delay at Fenway in 2006. The Sox and Rangers were scheduled for a split admission DH after being rained out the night before and I was there for the 1PM game. Well, it rained but they knew they had a window later in the day. Around 3 or so they announced that the nightcap was cancelled and they were just going to wait it out for the "afternoon" game. They got going around 6PM. Thank God I was under the roof or I wouldn't have stayed.

Jeeze, I wouldn't wait half that long, even for game 7.

Jeeze, I wouldn't wait half that long, even for game 7.

We actually watched the entire Yankee game on the scoreboard at Fenway and I had a book. I was by myself so it was actually an incredibly relaxing day. The only problem was that it was warm when I left my house so I had on a pair of shorts and by about 4PM I had to go drop something like $70 on the cheapest pair of sweatpants in the souvenir store.

We actually watched the entire Yankee game on the scoreboard at Fenway and I had a book. I was by myself so it was actually an incredibly relaxing day. The only problem was that it was warm when I left my house so I had on a pair of shorts and by about 4PM I had to go drop something like $70 on the cheapest pair of sweatpants in the souvenir store.

So, Fenway is a mallpark?

I got caught in an absolutely torrential downpour on the 4th of July this year at Comerica Park; I hadn't seen it rain that hard in years. The game was delayed for over three hours, but my seat was at the very top of the lower level, right next to the concourse and under an overhang, so security let me sit there despite evacuating the rest of the seats. A beer vendor sat next to me for cover and made for an expensive, but productive, delay.

Eventually the game started and Verlander threw a complete game in, I belive, less than three hours. If the game had started on time and he had done that, it would have been over before the game actually started in reality. INCEPTION.

I was at Wrigley sometimes in the early 2000s, when they announced that there would be rain about 30 min after gametime, lasting an hour, so they would delay the start.

It didn't start raining for an hour, then it rained for two. It stopped, the remaining 1000 of us raced for the seats behind home plate, they stood around for 30 min, and then canceled the game.

It was the most bat-excrement crazy thing I'd ever seen until last night.

They have to know that was totally moronic last night. When did the rain start?

I can't believe they couldn't have moved things up 15 minutes and got in 2 hours of ball.

I can't believe they couldn't have moved things up 15 minutes and got in 2 hours of ball.

Would that be worth it? Isn't the MLB rule that they will play all playoff games to a 9 inning completion? I thought that was one of the changes (umm..."clarifications") after the 2008 WS fiasco.

I got caught in an absolutely torrential downpour on the 4th of July this year at Comerica Park; I hadn't seen it rain that hard in years.

I was at this game! I was at last nite's game too. First Tigers playoff game I'd ever been to. Going back today but I will be about an hour late, so now you know who to blame when the skies open up again.

Yeah, it was my first rain delay, actually. I stayed overnight and went the next day as well, which incidentally was also rain delayed.

Probably not going to make it to a playoff game this year, unfortunately. I went to an ALCS game last year after lucking into the best seats I've ever had.

They made the right choice in postponing the game, but that was the final nail in the Yankees' coffin, since now even if they somehow pull off a miracle and tie the Series, they'd be facing a game 7 with Sabathia on two days rest. These are times when I'm beginning to question whether or not God is really living up to His Agreement.

They made the right choice in postponing the game, but that was the final nail in the Yankees' coffin, since now even if they somehow pull off a miracle and tie the Series, they'd be facing a game 7 with Sabathia on two days rest.

I think if the Yankees somehow manage to win the next 3 games, I think game 7 looks favorable to them regardless of pitching matchup.

Yeah, I'd gladly sign up for the horrors of having to start David Phelps in a Game 7 right about now ...

Is there an ALCS game tomorrow night now? I'm not going to be able to watch it, so I hope this ends tonight.

They made the right choice in postponing the game, but that was the final nail in the Yankees' coffin, since now even if they somehow pull off a miracle and tie the Series, they'd be facing a game 7 with Sabathia on two days rest. These are times when I'm beginning to question whether or not God is really living up to His Agreement.

They've already said that Sabathia won't start on two days' rest, period. It would be Phelps.

Maybe they'd luck out and Game Six or Seven is postponed by rain.

I think if the Yankees somehow manage to win the next 3 games, I think game 7 looks favorable to them regardless of pitching matchup.

Two words: Justin. Verlander.

I think the Yankees have as plausible path as anyone has ever had to come back from 3-0. Boston had Pedro and Schilling lined up for Five and Six, so getting through Game Four made forcing a Game Seven almost likely. The Yankees don't have that kind of edge in Five and Six, but they have CC for Game Four.

The Yankees' problem this series is solely that they haven't hit. If their bats can wake up, they have somewhat favorable pitching matchups the next three games.

I still think there's almost no chance that they get past today, or if they win today, get past tomorrow. But if they win the next two, and come back to NY down 3-2, I will have some optimism.

If the Yankees make Game Seven it would be too perfect to hand the ball to Derek Lowe and say "do it again."

If the Yankees make Game Seven it would be too perfect to hand the ball to Derek Lowe and say "do it again."

I didn't even think of that.

Too bad they don't still have Damon.

CHECKLIST (taking suggestions):
Conradian Play []
Web Gem []
It rains. Again. [ ]
Rain delay. Again. [ ]
Rain delay delays game to next day. Again. [ ]
Stolen Base []
Caught Stealing [ ]
1-2-3-4-5-6 [ ]
Pitcher gets a hit [ ]
Strikeout of side [ ] (a 1-2-3 inning strikeout of side [])
Play at the plate [ ]
Replay review [ ]
Baserunning blunder [ ]
Blown call [ ] (Blown call costs game [ ])
THIS TRAIN! [X]
2+ pitching changes in single half-inning [ ]
Dramatic late-inning homer [ ]
Idiot runs on the field [ ]
Regular-season starter warms up in bullpen [ ]
Game goes into extras [ ]
Shapeshifting strikezone [ ]
Inning-Ending DP [ ]
Bunt [ ]
Bases loaded, nobody scores [ ]
Balk [ ]
Ichiro does something awesome [ ]
Miguel Cabrera does something awesome [ ]
Verlander in dugout [ ]
A-Rod gets a hit [ ]
A-Rod is pinch-hit for or acts as a PH [ ]
"Down to their last X" [ ]
Shot of a Tiger fan with a broom [ ]
Ty Cobb statue [ ]
Hank Greenberg referenced [ ]
Raul Ibanez is a effing clutch god [ ]
Prince Fielder goes deep [ ]
Valverde shows up [ ] (Blows it [])
A-Rod strikes out [ ]
Riot in Detroit if they win [ ]
An inning goes by where they do not mention, show or allude to Alex Rodriguez [ ]
George Steinbrenner brought up []
TBS announcers basically have to remind themselves that the Tigers are the team up 3-0 [ ]
Yankee front-office member shown in stands [ ]
A-Rod to Miami rumor [ ]
A-Rod's press session from yesterday [ ]
A-Rod's pick-up methods [ ]
John Smoltz is from Michigan [ ]
John Smoltz was traded by Detroit [ ]
Doyle Alexander mentioned by name [ ]
Derek Jeter sighting [ ]
Girardi looks at binder/iPad [ ]
Trout mentioned (player or fish) [ ]
Verbal Reference to how Ford Field is so close to Comerica [ ]
Derek Lowe mentioned [ ]
ALCS game isn't done by time NLCS game starts [
Discussion of whether Cabrera will win the MVP [ ]
1984 (whether the year, the Tigers team in that year orOrwell's Dystopian Sci-Fi classic) is mentioned []
Buster Posey does something awesome [ ]
WILD BRIAN WILSON APPEARS [ ]
Pujols mentioned [ ]
Stan Musial mentioned [ ]
Carlos Beltran is a October Hero [ ]
Carlos Beltran's backup is an October hero [ ]
FREESE! [ ]
ST.L called a "Great baseball town", "Best fans in baseball," or similar accolade [ ]
Cardinals second only to Yankees in WS titles [ ]]
McCarver's singing career [ ]
NFL reference (other than NFL on Fox promotion) [ ]
Lohse's opening night start against Miami [ ]
Pence's big speeches [ ]
Pence's poor hitting [ ]
More than one person is Right Fielder for the Cardinals during the game [ ]
FOX announcers spend a not-insubstantial amount of time talking about A-Rod [ ]
2006 WS flashback [ ]
Game 6 2011 flashback [ ]
Pablo Sandoval referred to as "Panda" [ ]
FOX gets photobombed [ ]
Mention or reference to Jack Buck [ ]
McCarver was on the Cardinals [ ]
Willie Mays mentioned [ ]

Two words: Justin. Verlander.

The Yankees have scored more runs off of Verlander than all other Tigers starters combined.

God that is so depressing.

I swear if I were a betting man, I could make very good money on how much people over-rate the importance of the starting pitcher on these games.

Wha is the difference between the expected runs allowed, full 9 innings, betwen Sabathia and Kuroda? and Pettite? and Phelps? If the answer is approximately "1" (and it sure ain't much more than that), it moves the odds of winning the game about 10%. It's abot the same as the home v road difference. A solo HR to lead off the first inning is as big a deal as all that.

Even the biggest difference, Verlander vs Tiger#4, might be 20%.

game 7 with Sabathia on two days rest

Gosh, can someone remind me what happened the last time a pitcher started an ALCS game 7 on two days rest?

Sandy.
Koufax.
One day rest might've been enough :)

Lineup in:

Ichiro Suzuki LF
Nick Swisher RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Raul Ibanez DH
Eric Chavez 3B
Russell Martin C
Brett Gardner CF
Eduardo Nunez SS

That Phil Coke bit was funny.

"You have to be like a Yankee. No, you have to better than any Yankee..."

It was deep.

Crikey, Infante beat that out.

If the Tigers score first today, the Yankees are going to fold like dominoes...

(and then the Tigers get the lead)

Delmon!

Fielder doing something is the last thing the Yankees need. Would not guess Detroit would be up 3-0 without him doing something.

And the last thing I thought before Delmon's first pitch RBI single was "don't swing at the first pitch jackass."

_elmon!

My 18 month old daughter keeps pointing to Sabathia on the screen and saying "Mickey?" Apparently she thinks CC resembles Mickey Mouse.

My 18 month old daughter keeps pointing to Sabathia on the screen and saying "Mickey?" Apparently she thinks CC resembles Mickey Mouse.

Perhaps he can inquire about working as Mickey at Disney World for a few months when his off-season starts in a few hours.

First inning here pretty much sums up the series. Yankees can't do anything with pitches over the heart of the plate and the Tigers plate runs on perfectly placed baseballs.

A-Rod couldn't have done that.

Good thing Chavez is in there, with his "good-looking" at-bats.

The Yankees have never won a Game Four after losing the first three games.

At this point, I kinda just want a Tigers-Cardinals rematch, just so we can see whose pixie dust is stronger.

Y'know Garcia DOES look a bit like Cabrera.

Nice play by Teixeira/crappy bunt by Garcia.

When will we get the tell-all book about how the Yankees took a dive in the 2012 ALCS?

Bunt [X]


43: Why would they want to take a dive? They get paid so well and there are probably so many bonuses and incentives for winning that they have no reason. Yeah,I know, you were being sarcastic.

Stolen Base [X]

Good thing Chavez is in there, with his "good-looking" at-bats.

A-rod would have thrown out Infante.

_elmon!

Shouldn't that be "_elm_n!"?

Apparently she thinks CC resembles Mickey Mouse.

fra paolo (points at CC on screen): Does he look like Mickey Mouse?
fra paoletta the younger: Kind of. A bit.

When was the last time Russell Martin threw out a baserunner?

The Yankees have never won a Game Four after losing the first three games.

So that would be... the 1963 World Series? Anytime else?

Shouldn't that be "_elm_n!"?

Not when he gets an RBI.

When was the last time Russell Martin threw out a baserunner?

First inning of Game Three of the ALDS.

When was the last time Russell Martin threw out a baserunner?

Nate McLouth Game 3 of the ALDS.

Since then he's allowed 3.

So that would be... the 1963 World Series? Anytime else?

1) 1922 (Giants)
2) 1963 (Dodgers)
3) 1976 (Reds)

So that would be... the 1963 World Series? Anytime else?

1922 World Series and 1976 World Series

Coke to Larry

Dear dum-dum: Don't dive into first.

Fielder certainly is a deceptive name.

Coke to Larry

I could some cocaine today.

Anyway, no Cokes for factual responses to direct questions.

Pedant alert: The Yankees didn't lose the first three games of the 1922 World Series. But they did fall behind 3-0, and then lost the final game.

Leyland is chewing his nails. Should Tiger fans be nervous?

There's probably quite a bit of nicotine residue under there

Ichiro walked on strike three, so that evens out the call on Swisher.

Verlander in Dugout (speaking, even!) [X]

It would be funny if they had a bench-clearing confrontation on the field, and Verlander had to excuse himself, ditch the headset and join his teammates.

CC joins an elite club: pitchers who walk Delmon Young.

Not Conradian. Funny hop.

Jim Price: You need that leverage to drop the barrel of the bat on the ball and the leverage just makes it look easy...one of the best at that was our great, great pinch hitter. I forget his name now...

Price-less call of the game.

Avisail Garcia is the only major leaguer ever named "Avisail."

I have this image in my head that even when this inning is over, Justin Verlander will still be on the headphones, listening in, trying not to breath too hard so as not to give away what he's doing.

THAT was Conradian! Lolz Nunez.

Price-less call of the game.

And he meant 'since Gates Brown', as Dickeson subsequently clarified.

What kind of throw was that?

I saw "Ball in Dirt" on the 0-2 pitch to Garcia and had visions of a wild pitch resulting in a close play at the plate with Fielder and Sabathia converging. I don't know if there would be a collision or an awkward slide or an injury or just two fat guys running but somehow I'm pretty sure there would be a gif created.

What kind of throw was that?

Thank you for explaining Dave Cameron's "Son of a lawn dart" tweet.

As bad as the Yankees have been this series the Tigers hitting with RISP seems to be pretty bad. It feels like they could have done a LOT more damage than they've done this series.

I have this image in my head that even when this inning is over, Justin Verlander will still be on the headphones, listening in, trying not to breath too hard so as not to give away what he's doing.

Too funny. Electronic devices warrant suspension or just MLB saying "Justinnnnn? Bad."

Verlander: "Alright guys, my job is done here!" Awesome.

Again, the Tigers should have done more damage. They don't have the bullpen for tight games.

Both pitchers seem to be in pitch-count trouble.

I have never experienced a more.excrutiating inning in my life. What a pathetic team. Go.lose and hang out with the Red Sox.

A win is a win, but the Tigers should be wiping the floor with the Yankees and it's still somehow only a two-run game.

Sabathia, Fielder and Sandoval need to be on the same team just for the comedic value.

Is it just me or are way more fly balls caught with two hands in the postseason?

Sabathia, Fielder and Sandoval need to be on the same team just for the comedic value.

One thinks the opposing manager would use the bunt sign a bit more than usual.

I have never experienced a more.excrutiating inning in my life. What a pathetic team. Go.lose and hang out with the Red Sox.

?

Again, the Tigers should have done more damage. They don't have the bullpen for tight games.

Fortunately, they've chosen the right offense to face in a tight game.

I didnt watch that inning. I was avoiding the game.

[83] Fair enough.

Sabathia, Fielder and Sandoval need to be on the same team just for the comedic value.

I hope the field isn't too water logged.

You know what would add insult to injury right now? A PC Richard jingle whenever a Yankee batter Ks.

You know what would add insult to injury right now? A PC Richard jingle whenever a Yankee batter Ks.

If I was an intern or whoever is in charge of the Comerica Park sound system, I'd totally do it.

To make it more of a fair fight, the Tigers should have to score more runs than the Yankees get hits.

Trivia....the Yankees were up 2-0 in game 4 of the 2004 alcs.

Trivia....the Yankees were up 2-0 in game 4 of the 2004 alcs.

I don't see Dave Roberts walking through that door, Weekly.

Cabrera does something awesome [X]

Boom.

That was nearly another Dickerson 'line-drive base-hit caught out there' moment.

- - -

MVP! MVP!

Now we're cooking with gas!

Trivia....the Yankees were up 2-0 in game 4 of the 2004 alcs.

So much for trivia.

Maybe we'll get to see Valverde!

Ah did Cabrera hit a home run while I was answering a question? stupid work

Bring in Derek Lowe.

Boom boom.

PERALTA!

OK, now it's safe to bring in Valverde.

It's over.