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Tuesday, October 17, 2017

LCS OMNICHATTER for October 17, 2017

Dodgers lead the Cubs, 2-0.
Astros lead the Yankees, 2-1.

LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 17, 2017 at 01:24 PM | 363 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. esseff Posted: October 17, 2017 at 01:56 PM (#5555928)
Gotta hand it to MLB: It's not easy to give the first game a four-hour window and still get both games in prime time (for some).
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 02:30 PM (#5555995)
Let's Go Yankees! Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap!
   3. Jeff Francoeur's OPS Posted: October 17, 2017 at 02:32 PM (#5556001)
How many groundouts will Heyward have tonight?
   4. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 02:34 PM (#5556007)
A interesting nugget about last night's game from River Ave Blues:

Sabathia, who had the fifth highest soft contact rate and the sixth lowest hard contact rate in baseball this season, held the Astros to a 73.7 mph average exit velocity in Game Three. It was the lowest for any pitcher against the ‘Stros this season, according to James Smyth.


Well done, Carsten Charles!
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 02:41 PM (#5556019)
Austin Romine catching tonight, Sanchez at DH. Not a fan.
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 17, 2017 at 03:05 PM (#5556064)
Austin Romine catching tonight, Sanchez at DH. Not a fan.

The Yankee DHs have a .155 OPS in 30 playoff ABs, and Romine is 1-for-2 plus a BB against McCullers. A "half-days rest" for Sanchez at DH in the middle of playing 3 consecutive days seems OK even before considering that Gray has a 1.45 ERA in the 3 games Romine caught him. Might backfire, but seems reasonable if just a 1-game strategy.
   7. Fat Al Posted: October 17, 2017 at 03:09 PM (#5556067)
Shame they couldn't reserve Betances and slot in a 3d catcher.
   8. Fat Al Posted: October 17, 2017 at 03:10 PM (#5556068)
Because the real problem with this is you can't PH or PR for Romine without losing the DH.
   9. Blastin Posted: October 17, 2017 at 03:50 PM (#5556112)
Because the real problem with this is you can't PH or PR for Romine without losing the DH.


Eh, I'd say that means we just have pinch hitters for that slot twice.
   10. Howie Menckel Posted: October 17, 2017 at 04:03 PM (#5556125)
Girardi claims he decided before the series that Romine would catch Gray in this game even if the DHs were red-hot in the first three games.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 04:26 PM (#5556162)
Eh, I'd say that means we just have pinch hitters for that slot twice.

Hard to do when you carry 12 freaking pitchers, including 2 you won't use outside of a blowout.
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 04:28 PM (#5556164)
The Yankee DHs have a .155 OPS in 30 playoff ABs, and Romine is 1-for-2 plus a BB against McCullers. A "half-days rest" for Sanchez at DH in the middle of playing 3 consecutive days seems OK even before considering that Gray has a 1.45 ERA in the 3 games Romine caught him. Might backfire, but seems reasonable if just a 1-game strategy.

Counterpoint: Romine is an awful, awful hitter.
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 04:28 PM (#5556165)
Girardi claims he decided before the series that Romine would catch Gray in this game even if the DHs were red-hot in the first three games.

Then they needed to drop Garcia or Betances for a 3rd catcher.
   14. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 17, 2017 at 05:32 PM (#5556248)
Girardi claims he decided before the series that Romine would catch Gray in this game even if the DHs were red-hot in the first three games.

"Claims" is good there. At a minimum, a much tougher call if any of the other DH options were belting the ball around the ballpark, but it also doesn't make much sense for Girardi to draw public attention to his hitters struggles, so it's not that surprising that he's attempting to frame the decision in terms of Romine's positives, such as they are.
   15. stanmvp48 Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:03 PM (#5556271)
Houston scored 896 runs with nothing from DH. 224 283 382. 19 home runs 73 RBIS and 82 runs scored. By far the worst production of any position on the team.
   16. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:14 PM (#5556276)
SANCHEZ IZ TERRIBAD DEFNDUR!!!
   17. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:17 PM (#5556278)
Nice start so far for Sonny.
   18. Baldrick Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:28 PM (#5556282)
Stop. Plant. Make a good throw. C'mon.
   19. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:28 PM (#5556284)
What a ####### ####-show of an base-running inning from Judge.
   20. Baldrick Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:29 PM (#5556285)
I believe in replay, in principle, but this is just dreadful stuff.
   21. catomi01 Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:30 PM (#5556286)
That had to be the strangest series of events I've see on the basepaths since that Jean Segura steal of 1st a few years ago.
   22. Baldrick Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:31 PM (#5556287)
Good lord this is so stupid.
   23. Gazizza, my Dilznoofuses! Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:31 PM (#5556288)
I joined midway through. If they knew Judge didn't touch second base, why did the Astros challenge the call at first, rather than just make the appeal at second?
   24. Gazizza, my Dilznoofuses! Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:33 PM (#5556290)
OK, apparently the Yankees challenged the paly at first. I misunderstood that. I guess the Yankees didn't know he missed second?
   25. catomi01 Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:34 PM (#5556291)
The Yankees were appealing the play at 1st. During the course of that, it became clear that Judge didn't re-touch 2nd on the way back - and also that the 2nd base umpire had a clear view of that - so rather than risk a challenge and any stupidity of "clear and convincing evidence," they went with a normal appeal - which I guess also could have been reviewed?
   26. Spinning My Wheels Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:34 PM (#5556292)
I believe the Yankees challenged the call at first, not Houston. Judge was ruled out at first. Though I'm working, so I may have missed something also.
   27. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:35 PM (#5556293)
LOL.
   28. catomi01 Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:35 PM (#5556295)
or what was just explained - I guess they had to execute a live ball appeal before they could ask for a review.
   29. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:36 PM (#5556296)
Lookin' good, Sonny !
My Beloved Yankees are doing their THANG.
   30. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 06:56 PM (#5556308)
Good job, Sonny ! Bullpen will take care of it !
   31. For the Turnstiles (andeux) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:09 PM (#5556312)
Sonny Gray has now pitched 21+ innings in the postseason in his career, with zero runs of support.
   32. Lassus Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:10 PM (#5556313)
Man, that's gotta be a D on Gurriel's baserunning. Three runs isn't going to do it, I don't think.
   33. bunyon Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:17 PM (#5556315)
That was pretty cool that if Judge had made it to second before the appeal it would have negated the appeal. I'd never thought about it but it's logical. It would be like he went back to tag up at first and then made it to second. Strange.

And good for both starters. No one expected anything from them and they pitched well.
   34. Khrushin it bro Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:17 PM (#5556316)
Gray needs to learn how to pitch to the score. It's pretty friggin simple!
   35. stanmvp48 Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:20 PM (#5556317)
What did Gurriel do?
   36. Howie Menckel Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:22 PM (#5556321)
Man, that's gotta be a D on Gurriel's baserunning.

MLB players who get big hits, especially with 2 outs, can't WAIT to get into the dugout, I swear.

I think Rizzo did this also the other day. Not sure of the exact level of baseball you need to reach where you can still trick the other team into not trying to get the run at the plate by luring them into getting you out instead.

I DO know that level is well below MLB, however. yet no announcer will ever call a batter on it. one of the weird things about baseball.
   37. bunyon Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:24 PM (#5556325)
Eh. If the throw goes through to the plate, he's on third with one out. At worst, he's on third with two out (if they throw the runner out at home). Trying for third with one out is an acceptable risk. As it happens, it draws the throw. Altuve was probably going to be safe anyway but exchanging the out for the run is also fine.

It was aggressive and it may have worked out if he stays at second but it isn't that bad.
   38. bunyon Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:26 PM (#5556326)
I DO know that level is well below MLB, however. yet no announcer will ever call a batter on it. one of the weird things about baseball.

Really? I see it often. MLB seems very ready to let the run score if they know they can get the out on the bases.
   39. bunyon Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:28 PM (#5556329)
Curse of the ex-Cub.
   40. Howie Menckel Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:28 PM (#5556330)
Then they needed to drop Garcia or Betances for a 3rd catcher.

they don't have a 3rd catcher on the 40-man roster (unless the rotting corpse of 37-year-old Erik Kratz is still listed; wait, he did go 2 for 2 this year to push his career AVG over .200! and a 546 OPS+ to lift his career tally to 67 (he used to have a little pop back in the day)

he was 8 for 85 in the bigs last year
   41. bunyon Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:31 PM (#5556331)

he was 8 for 85 in the bigs last year


Less than half a Mendoza.
   42. bunyon Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:33 PM (#5556332)
Big Time Bats is all in.
   43. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:41 PM (#5556337)
DIDI!

Get him in and get some more!
   44. Howie Menckel Posted: October 17, 2017 at 07:51 PM (#5556343)
MLB seems very ready to let the run score if they know they can get the out on the bases.

except the run will score anyway, which makes the "sacrifice" on the bases so stupid. case in point - tonight.
   45. Rob_Wood Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:01 PM (#5556351)
I have told the story before but ....

On one of the few times I have been interviewed on the radio, somehow this type of play came up (a baserunner purposefully giving himself up in order to "ensure" a run scores). I got into a heated "discussion" with the host (a former major leaguer). Of course, I said it was a terrible play and makes no sense. I may or may not have mentioned run expectancy. The host called me an idiot and worse and told me that his organization taught players to do that. Not one of my fondest moments of being on the radio.
   46. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:07 PM (#5556356)
It's funny, I've noticed that "explaining the reason for a mound visit and what they might be talking about" has become a significant part of the color man's job in the booth.
   47. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:09 PM (#5556357)
Jesus Christ, Headley ! But good, but good ! :D

A nice 6 or 7-spot ! S'il vous plait !
   48. Baldrick Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:10 PM (#5556358)
Altuve is great, but that was a dreadful tag. Ugh.
   49. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:11 PM (#5556360)
This running-while-remaining-upright thing must be more difficult than it looks. All's well that ends well.
   50. PreservedFish Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:12 PM (#5556361)
I missed a couple innings due to kids' bedtime. Why did they only get .1 innings out of Devenski?
   51. PreservedFish Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:13 PM (#5556363)
Also, why the hook on McCullers? I get it if you have a crazy bullpen, but ... if Joe Musgrove is a go-to setup guy, you do not.
   52. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:13 PM (#5556364)
Come on Gardner, bloop it to LF !

Or ground it to 2nd. Ok !
   53. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:17 PM (#5556369)
I missed a couple innings due to kids' bedtime. Why did they only get .1 innings out of Devenski?
Not feeling 100%, the flu or something. I assume it has something to do with Chicago mold.

Boy, they're just not going to call a borderline strike against Judge.
   54. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:18 PM (#5556370)
All rise ! *oh BABY !
What a stupid fan !
   55. The Bob Apodaca Fan Club Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:18 PM (#5556372)
It's funny, I've noticed that "explaining the reason for a mound visit and what they might be talking about" has become a significant part of the color man's job in the booth.


Which seems to correspond with an increase in the number of former pitchers working as color guys in the booth (at least anecdotally, please no flaming).
   56. Sunday silence Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:19 PM (#5556374)
[x] fan involved in play
   57. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:20 PM (#5556375)
Mere words cannot describe how much I hate the F@#$ing Yankees.
   58. PreservedFish Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:22 PM (#5556378)
Correa should've dived there. He was thinking about the out at first, but a safer play keeps Judge at second.
   59. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:22 PM (#5556379)
I think Judge played that right, making sure that the ball was through. Cornea almost got it, and would have had a play at 3rd.
   60. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:23 PM (#5556380)
I SO like this ! Mere words cannot describe my bliss and utter joy !

Not sure what to make of that mutant Chapman coming in again, though.
What a total knee-biter !
   61. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:23 PM (#5556381)
Wow. Giles is more like an opener today.
   62. PreservedFish Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:24 PM (#5556383)
Well this is not going well.
   63. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:25 PM (#5556384)
Yankees take the lead 6-4, and the Astros may have to deal with a CRISIS OF CLOSER CONFIDENCE for the remainder of the series.
   64. Hot Wheeling American Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:25 PM (#5556386)
'Six unanswered runs.'

Houston hasn't had a chance to answer them yet, ya bozo!
   65. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:27 PM (#5556389)
I can't believe I had to watch this with the sound off up until the top of the 8th----a long lost friend from Boston called and I didn't want to be rude to her.

I'm just SO glad for Judge, who's handled his slump with more class than anyone would ever have had any right to expect. Sanchez, too. How many people would have expected this just two innings ago?
   66. Howie Menckel Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:28 PM (#5556390)
I like the idea of taking Giles out there after 14 pitches. better chance to use him a little longer tomorrow. I rarely see that strategy with a closer.

45, am glad I am not the only "crazy" one!
   67. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:31 PM (#5556394)
66:

Seems like most managers are fairly quick with the hook with their closers once they've blown the lead.
   68. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:38 PM (#5556398)
Is it me or does Frazier look like Edward Norton?
   69. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:39 PM (#5556399)
When the Yankees are winning the Most Boring World Series Ever (tm) in a couple of weeks, we'll all think about how Cleveland had them by the throat, and then how Houston had them by the throat. And we'll remember.
   70. Walt Davis Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:41 PM (#5556402)
It's funny, I've noticed that "explaining the reason for a mound visit and what they might be talking about" has become a significant part of the color man's job in the booth.

Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and baseball games took less than 5 hours ... Harry Caray and Steve Stone in the booth when the catcher goes out to the mound ...

Harry: What's he going out there for Steve? Making dinner plans for tonight? HAR HAR

Steve: Actually Harry, he's telling the pitcher that the batter has been peeking back to steal location so he's going to set up outside but wants the pitcher to throw it on the inside corner.

Catcher sets up outside, shifts inside during delivery, strike 3 looking on the inside corner.
   71. Walt Davis Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:41 PM (#5556403)
Crap, they've started putting in some commercials to my mlbtv feed.
   72. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:44 PM (#5556405)
Yeah, I remember those days when Stone would predict exactly what was going to happen. Sad that he couldn't predict his own falling to the Hawk side.
   73. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:46 PM (#5556407)
Nicely done, my Beloved Yankees ! Now get GAME3 tomorrow !
   74. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:46 PM (#5556408)
Now that's what a ball game should be like.
   75. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:47 PM (#5556409)
Let's see how the Celtics are doing !
   76. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:49 PM (#5556410)
Welp.... onto Chicago where the last hope for truth, justice, goodness, and the American way staving off the darkness of an evil October may reside.
   77. John DiFool2 Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:53 PM (#5556412)
When the Yankees are winning the Most Boring World Series Ever (tm) in a couple of weeks, we'll all think about how Cleveland had them by the throat, and then how Houston had them by the throat. And we'll remember.


Esp. when the Dodgers blow a 3-0 lead.....
   78. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 17, 2017 at 08:58 PM (#5556415)
Finally caught up. Really impressed with the Yankees, which is hard to admit. I have to wonder if a healthy Chris Devinski changes anything.
   79. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:02 PM (#5556417)
Steve: Actually Harry, he's telling the pitcher that the batter has been peeking back to steal location so he's going to set up outside but wants the pitcher to throw it on the inside corner.


Steve Stone did have an uncanny ability to do this. The best color man of his generation.
   80. winnipegwhip Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:02 PM (#5556418)
Aaron Judge - greatest athlete to wear 99!!!
   81. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:04 PM (#5556421)
Nice.

Here comes Tormund Barbersbane.
   82. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:05 PM (#5556422)
The Yankees play much better when I'm not watching :-)
   83. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:05 PM (#5556423)
Well, if the Cubs can't score with tonight's wind...

Wait start positive. Kyle looks on.
   84. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:06 PM (#5556424)
Toss him!

Throw him out!
   85. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:09 PM (#5556425)
Oy
   86. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:09 PM (#5556426)
Whew. I think that one from Puig landed in my front yard.
   87. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:09 PM (#5556427)
Throw him out too!
   88. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:10 PM (#5556428)
Sit down
   89. K-BAR, J-BAR (trhn) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:10 PM (#5556429)
The Cubs are lucky to have Hendricks.
   90. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:10 PM (#5556430)
Ha!

Wanna pose and admire that one, too? Not as pretty as a foul ball, but far more effective.
   91. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:12 PM (#5556431)
Let's see how the Cubs get their sorry little arses kicked !
   92. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:12 PM (#5556433)
Wow, those are some woeful BA numbers for the Cubs' lineup.
   93. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:12 PM (#5556435)
Look at those pathetic BA in the lineup.
   94. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:13 PM (#5556436)
I think we're even on the beverage tally now, Moses.
   95. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:14 PM (#5556437)
Boom
   96. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:14 PM (#5556438)
YES!! Shwarber Puiged that one a bit, eh?
   97. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:14 PM (#5556439)
Jesus Christ, FatSchwarb !

That Porky Puig is so juiced !
   98. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:15 PM (#5556440)
THE SCHWARBIRD HAS DECLOAKED!
   99. Andere Richtingen Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:15 PM (#5556442)
First pitch swinging pays off!
   100. K-BAR, J-BAR (trhn) Posted: October 17, 2017 at 09:15 PM (#5556443)
I don't think one run is going to be enough to win this.
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