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Tuesday, October 16, 2012

LCS Round Chatter Day 4: Yankees at Tigers

Game 3: Will the Tigers take command, or will the Yankees’ bats finally wake up?

New York Yankees (Hughes) @ Detroit Tigers (Verlander), 8 PM, TBS
Tigers lead 2-0

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   1. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 16, 2012 at 10:20 AM (#4272297)
I want the Yankees bats to wake up, if for nothing else than something resembling a competitive series.
   2. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM (#4272301)
Winner of tonight's game wins the series. If the Tigers win they are obviously well situated but I think if the Yankees win they tie it up with CC tomorrow and that gives the bats a chance to get going. They are good enough that letting them extend the series will get them going with the bats eventually. The Tigers aren't exactly a lock. The issues they've had all year; dicey bullpen, lousy defense, top heavy offense still exist.
   3. bunyon Posted: October 16, 2012 at 10:42 AM (#4272314)
I'm going to say 15 runs are scored tonight.
   4. TomH Posted: October 16, 2012 at 10:50 AM (#4272323)
anyone who has watched much of the post-season (I am not a TV guy); have the AL games HP umps strike zones beeen in geenral larger than the NL games? If so, is it merely a small sample of who got assigned which games to date; meaning that if a guy had a big zone for ALDS game 2 or something, maybe it's an ump who typically HAS a big zone normally.

I am just very surprised at the lack of offense among teams who scored lots of runs during the regular season; and no, it isn't just the plethora of aces that have been on the mound....
   5. NJ in DC Posted: October 16, 2012 at 10:52 AM (#4272327)
I came here to write [2] after discussing the same with my coworker. Damn you, Jose.
   6. Joey B. is being stalked by a (Gonfa) loon Posted: October 16, 2012 at 11:09 AM (#4272337)
Complete game, 4 hit shutout for Verlander.
   7. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: October 16, 2012 at 11:09 AM (#4272338)
Think 1985, 1986, and especially 1996. MUST. THINK. POSITIVE.
   8. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM (#4272342)
There's so much OMG teh Yankees slump and OMG teh Verlander going on that there's no way the Yankees lose tonight. It's a lock.
   9. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: October 16, 2012 at 11:20 AM (#4272350)
There's so much OMG teh Yankees slump and OMG teh Verlander going on that there's no way the Yankees lose tonight. It's a lock.

Hell, let's just get it over with and have a reverse jinx shootout. I see a Verlander perfect game with only 81 pitches, all swinging strikes, with the last one being whiffed at before the ball even leaves Verlander's hand.
   10. BourbonSamurai Is a Lazy Nogoodnik Posted: October 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM (#4272358)
Hell, let's just get it over with and have a reverse jinx shootout. I see a Verlander perfect game with only 81 pitches, all swinging strikes, with the last one being whiffed at before the ball even leaves Verlander's hand.


Also Robinson Cano's leg is broken on a take-out slide by the ghost of Ty Cobb.
   11. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM (#4272369)
The way I see it, either this is going to be a very close Yankee win or it'll be a 8-2 Detroit romp.
   12. 'Spos Posted: October 16, 2012 at 12:34 PM (#4272409)
...Robinson Cano's leg is broken on a take-out slide...


Hell no, it'll be Nix, indirectly leading to a spectacular unassisted triple play turned by shortstop Alex Rodriguez.
   13. DKDC Posted: October 16, 2012 at 12:37 PM (#4272415)
Verlander pitches perfect game. Tigers score 15 runs. The Yankees give up and go home.
   14. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 02:50 PM (#4272596)
CHECKLIST (taking suggestions):
Conradian Play []
Web Gem []
Stolen Base []
Caught Stealing [ ]
1-2-3-4-5-6 [ ]
Strikeout of side [ ] (a 1-2-3 inning strikeout of side [])
Play at the plate [ ]
Replay review [ ]
Baserunning blunder [ ]
Blown call [ ] (Blown call costs game [ ])
THIS TRAIN! [X]
2+ pitching changes in single half-inning [ ]
Dramatic late-inning homer [ ]
Idiot runs on the field [ ]
Regular-season starter warms up in bullpen [ ]
Game goes into extras [ ]
Shapeshifting strikezone [ ]
Inning-Ending DP [ ]
Bunt [ ]
Balk [ ]
They show the Ty Cobb statue in Detroit [ ]
A-Rod strikes out [ ]
A-Rod is PH for or is a PH [ ]
Raul Ibanez is a effing clutch god [ ]
Verlander hits 100 or more after 80+ pitches [ ]
Reference to presidential debate [ ]
Miguel Cabrera does something awesome [ ]
Trout mentioned (player or fish) [ ]
Valverde shows up [ ] (Valverde blows lead [ ])
Girardi seen looking at binder/iPad/whatever [ ]
Prince Fielder goes deep [ ]
Verlander no-hitter flashback(s) [ ]
"Is Miguel Cabrera MVP?" [ ]
Sabathia sitting in dugout [ ]
Verbal Reference to how Ford Field is so close to Comerica [ ]
Discussion of the Holliday-Scutaro slide [ ]
Derek Jeter sighted in ballpark [ ] (Mention that Jeter is actually from Michigan [ ])
DET HOFer* references: Kaline [ ] Harwell [ ] Greenberg [ ] Cobb (other than statue) [ ] Wahoo Sam [ ] H. Jennings [] M. Cochrane [ ] C. Gehringer [ ] Kell [ ] Newhouser [ ] Manush [ ] Heilmann [ ]
Mark "The Bird" Fidrych mentioned [ ]
Cecil Fielder mentioned [ ]
Ichiro does something awesome [ ]
John Smoltz is from Michigan [ ]
John Smoltz was traded by Detroit [ ]
Doyle Alexander mentioned by name [ ]


*I know technically Ernie Harwell isn't a "hall of famer" by virtue of not having a plaque, but I'm counting the Ford C. Frick Award, because I said so.

   15. rconn23 Posted: October 16, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4272625)
The Yankees will get crushed tonight. There is nothing left in this team. Nothing.
   16. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 16, 2012 at 03:16 PM (#4272633)
The Yankees and their fans are going to mope their way to a ring just like the 2004 Red Sox.
   17. JL Posted: October 16, 2012 at 03:20 PM (#4272641)
Hell, let's just get it over with and have a reverse jinx shootout. I see a Verlander perfect game with only 81 pitches, all swinging strikes, with the last one being whiffed at before the ball even leaves Verlander's hand.

Will that last at-bat include the batter swinging three times at that one pitch?

Because that would mean only 79 pitches.
   18. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 16, 2012 at 03:45 PM (#4272669)
What will be larger tonight: Prince Fielder's post-game meal or Verlander's strike zone?
   19. Joey B. is being stalked by a (Gonfa) loon Posted: October 16, 2012 at 03:51 PM (#4272674)
Verlander pitches perfect game. Tigers score 15 runs. The Yankees give up and go home.

Upon which Kate Upton formally inducts Verlander into the Perfect Game Club and then asks him to marry her.
   20. Fat Al Posted: October 16, 2012 at 04:28 PM (#4272717)
The Yankees and their fans are going to mope their way to a ring just like the 2004 Red Sox.


A man can dream...
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 16, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4272762)
For balance: A-Rod Redemption [ ]
   22. NJ in DC Posted: October 16, 2012 at 04:58 PM (#4272770)
Upon which Kate Upton formally inducts Verlander into the Perfect Game Club and then asks him to marry her.

As a Yankee fan, if this results in an impromptu on-field Kate Upton cat daddy...I can't be mad at that.
   23. Chip Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4272798)
Yankee lineup:

Gardner LF
Suzuki RF
Teixeira 1B
Cano 2B
Ibañez DH
Martin C
Chavez 3B
Granderson CF
Nuñez SS
   24. Fat Al Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:26 PM (#4272800)
It's official. Girardi's lost his mind.
   25. Chip Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4272803)
Francesa is pre-emptively destroying Girardi for not only sitting A-Rod, but putting defensive disaster Nuñez at SS in such a critical game.
   26. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4272806)
About damn time for Gritner. Unfortunately, he can't replace both Swisher AND Granderson.
   27. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:29 PM (#4272807)
Chavez 3B

Well, Chavez is hitting .000 in the postseason, so he's due right?
   28. salajander Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:33 PM (#4272812)
A-Rod vs Verlander: .267/.405/.600/1.005 in 37 PA.
Chavez: .360/.360/.560/.920 in 25 PA

A-Rod has looked completely lost against righties lately, of course.
   29. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:42 PM (#4272819)
It's official. Girardi's lost his mind.



I'm surprised he didn't pick the lineup out of a hat.

For balance: A-Rod Redemption [ ]


I'll add something in like "A-Rod gets a hit," since redemption is such a loaded concept and he has done so many things lately that there's no way he can redeem them all.
   30. bunyon Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:48 PM (#4272825)
Hmm. I was in a doctor's office earlier and they had ESPN on where it was reported A-Rod was hitting 3rd. Which I did think was surprising.

ODoes this mean A-Rod has a date tonight?
   31. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:48 PM (#4272826)
THIS TRAIN! [X]


I finally have to ask. What the hell is this?
   32. Fat Al Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:48 PM (#4272827)
I'm no fan of Mike Francesa, but listening to him lose his mind over this lineup is fairly entertaining.
   33. Fat Al Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:49 PM (#4272828)
THIS TRAIN! [X]


I finally have to ask. What the hell is this?


The Bruce song that's the MLB "playoff theme".
   34. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:54 PM (#4272833)
The Yankees and their fans are going to mope their way to a ring just like the 2004 Red Sox.

Wait, how would this be at all like the 2004 Red Sox?
   35. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 16, 2012 at 05:59 PM (#4272838)
Francesa is pre-emptively destroying Girardi for not only sitting A-Rod, but putting defensive disaster Nuñez at SS in such a critical game.


Who exactly is he supposed to put there? Nix has started all of 27 games at shortstop in his career. I doubt the Yankees have a better defensive shortstop on the roster. Maybe Chavez.
   36. Fat Al Posted: October 16, 2012 at 06:02 PM (#4272840)
The real bizarre thing beyond benching Rodriguez (who hits Verlander well) is putting Gardner at leadoff against Verlander when he hasn't batted in a game since April.
   37. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 16, 2012 at 06:02 PM (#4272841)
Girardi is in full panic mode. What a disgrace. Can we get Mattingly back?
   38. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 16, 2012 at 06:03 PM (#4272844)
Legs.

Some football teams have a "Hands Squad" for certain situation where they can't afford a fumble or turn over.

This is Coffee Joe's "Legs Squad".
   39. Willie Mayspedes Posted: October 16, 2012 at 06:16 PM (#4272863)
putting Gardner at leadoff against Verlander when he hasn't batted in a game since April.


He got a couple AB's. He was 0 for 2 in SB attempts in the second half and had a .666 OPS, he's due!
   40. frannyzoo Posted: October 16, 2012 at 06:31 PM (#4272877)
I know he's hit there before, but Granderson batting 8th? With those choices above him? As a lefty against Verlander? I guess I don't understand this lineup creation thing very well.
   41. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: October 16, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4272904)
Girardi has gone out of his way to let everyone know "Hey, I'm managing over here! If we lose, it's not my fault! Look at all these strings I'm pulling!". That lineup is a cry for help.
   42. deputydrew Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4272924)
Schedule question: on Sunday, the NL is currently scheduled for 4pm EST and the AL for prime time. If the AL is wrapped up by then, does the NL get bumped to prime time? I assume so, but am trying to figure out my odds of getting to play paintball that afternoon...
   43. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:15 PM (#4272929)
Schedule question: on Sunday, the NL is currently scheduled for 4pm EST and the AL for prime time. If the AL is wrapped up by then, does the NL get bumped to prime time? I assume so, but am trying to figure out my odds of getting to play paintball that afternoon...
High.
   44. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4272935)
I've been a Yankee optimist for the last... hell, for my whole life. But starting Nunez at short is going to push me over the edge. I'll call it here an hour before gametime; he makes at least one error tonight.
   45. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:27 PM (#4272949)
I also kind of think this might all work out. We all assume that Verlander is better than Valverde and the rest of the Tiger bullpen. Maybe a zillion times better. Thus, the best Yankee scoring chances may be late. And Girardi has some stupendous pinch-hitting options.

This assumes:

a) Hughes keeps them in the game
b) Rod/Swisher actually can hit towards the end

It's a hell of a defensive alignment in the outfield.
   46. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4272953)
I'll call it here an hour before gametime; he makes at least one error tonight.

I don't know. Hughes, as a flyball guy, could conceivably not give up any groundballs to short. Although there are still double plays and attempted SBs to consider.
   47. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:30 PM (#4272955)
I was one of those calling for Gardner to start for Swisher. And Rodriguez for Chavez is defensible in a platoon advantage kind of way. I don't think this lineup is optimal, but it's not deeply stupid either.
   48. Bowling Baseball Fan Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:31 PM (#4272957)
O/U is 7 tonight. I really don't know which way this game is going to go. It has all the signs of 2-0, but that blowout is just waiting to happen. Taking the Tigers -1.5 at +120.
   49. Fat Al Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4272966)
I was one of those calling for Gardner to start for Swisher. And Rodriguez for Chavez is defensible in a platoon advantage kind of way. I don't think this lineup is optimal, but it's not deeply stupid either.


I don't know. Leading off Gardner totally cold, sitting Alex when he's had good and recent success against Verlander, and relying so heavily on a platoon split that from Verlander's side doesn't really exist seem crazy to me. They had a day off. I would put the best hitters in there. And for better or worse Rodriguez is one of their nine best hitters.
   50. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 07:58 PM (#4272981)
Jack Morris
   51. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:03 PM (#4272985)
A-Rod is really forcing that smile.
   52. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:06 PM (#4272986)
The 70s called, Craig, they want their rug back.
   53. Into the Void Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:09 PM (#4272988)
Been away from the computer all day- why are the Yankees playing their spring training lineup!?
   54. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:11 PM (#4272990)
And Justin Verlander declares tonight's game OFFICIALLY BEGUN.
   55. Tim D Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:12 PM (#4272991)
Strike. Strike. Strike........
   56. Austin Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:12 PM (#4272992)
Nice start by Verlander.

What's the over/under on the number of errors Núñez makes at shortstop today? 1.5?
   57. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:13 PM (#4272993)
9 pitches. Not a good start.
   58. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:17 PM (#4272994)
Wtf was that 0-2 pitch ump you scumfuck
   59. Joey B. is being stalked by a (Gonfa) loon Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:17 PM (#4272995)
The bright side for A-Rod is he has plenty of time to try to get chicks' phone numbers.
   60. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:19 PM (#4273000)
The infield is full of gold gloves... and Nunez.
   61. BourbonSamurai Is a Lazy Nogoodnik Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:21 PM (#4273004)
That's a nutty lineup
   62. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:23 PM (#4273005)
Greenberg [X]
   63. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4273008)
WEB GEM [X]
   64. fra paolo Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4273009)
Come along, Peralta, pull your finger out.
   65. Tim D Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4273010)
Alex, baby!!!!
   66. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4273011)
No hitter is on
   67. Fat Al Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:32 PM (#4273012)
At least Ibanez saw a few pitches.
   68. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:32 PM (#4273013)
At least Ibanez saw a few pitches.


Even when he fails, he wins!
   69. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4273014)
I think there's a 85% chance Verlander gets a no-hitter tonight.
   70. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4273017)
Waaah
   71. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:35 PM (#4273020)
Waaah


It'll be okay, just look at the baby walrus.
   72. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:36 PM (#4273021)
I also kind of think this might all work out. We all assume that Verlander is better than Valverde and the rest of the Tiger bullpen. Maybe a zillion times better. Thus, the best Yankee scoring chances may be late. And Girardi has some stupendous pinch-hitting options.

I was thinking this exactly. For NY to win, they'll need to get Verlander out of the game by the 8th AND since NY can't score before the 9th inning anyway it gives them a chance to EXPLODE against the pen. What a cunning, cunning plan.

*plan not guaranteed if Verlander throws 110 pitch no-hitter.
   73. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:36 PM (#4273022)
Phil looks pretty good too. Tigers may have to settle for a 3-0 win.
   74. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:36 PM (#4273024)
It'll be okay, just look at the baby walrus.
You're not supposed to extend that to Yankees fans.
   75. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:37 PM (#4273026)
I think there's a 85% chance Verlander gets a no-hitter tonight.


I'm just pleasantly surprised he's unlikely to set the SO record.
   76. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:37 PM (#4273027)
It'll be okay, just look at the baby walrus.

You're not supposed to extend that to Yankees fans.



Yes, but I am not a monster. I will show the mercy.
   77. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:38 PM (#4273029)
1-2-3-4-5-6 [X]
   78. PepTech Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4273030)
That's a pretty cute walrus. Won't help.
   79. PepTech Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4273031)
How about a 92 pitch no hitter?
   80. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4273032)
Here is what baffles me. Arent you fsr more likely to score against Verlander by running into one and hitting it out than by stringing singles togethr?
   81. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:41 PM (#4273034)
Optimistic Yankees fan post:

Yankees starters ERA: 2.25

It's something.
   82. Fat Al Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:42 PM (#4273035)
"exasperates the issue"

I'm gonna use that
   83. PepTech Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:42 PM (#4273036)
Yankees starters ERA: 2.25


Hee hee! Good one!
   84. I Am Not a Number Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:43 PM (#4273037)
Rick Sutcliffe sounding like Forest Gump [X]
   85. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:44 PM (#4273039)
Guaranteed strikeout here.
   86. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:46 PM (#4273040)
They love Nunez's offense?
   87. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:46 PM (#4273041)
Jeez, he *is* going to pitch a perfect game.
   88. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:47 PM (#4273042)
Yankees will be lucky to get a runner to second at this rate.
   89. Tim D Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4273043)
Boy, Granderson sure is deep into one of his funks.
   90. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:49 PM (#4273045)
Yankees will be lucky to get a runner to second at this rate.
I know, that would have to be a really high pop-up.
   91. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4273047)
Im glad phil turned in a decent year.
   92. Gamingboy Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:53 PM (#4273049)
Who knows what A-Rod would have done with that ball! He probably would have thrown it into the seats because he's such a choker!
   93. I Am Not a Number Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4273051)
Gary Thorne just said that Tom Brookens, who caught Jack Morris's ceremonial first pitch, was Morris's old battery mate.
   94. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4273052)
Never mind.
   95. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:57 PM (#4273053)
This is pretty much the game right here.
   96. Austin Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4273054)
Calling it now: Gardner will immediately single against Verlander when the top of the fourth begins.
   97. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4273055)
Walk him and set up the Delmon grand slam.
   98. Best Regards, President of Comfort Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4273056)
Prince Fielder is such a great protector that Ryan Braun had a better season with Fielder gone.
   99. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4273057)
Yeah, poor Ryan Braun really tanked without Fielder's protection.
   100. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 16, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4273059)
The Tigers offense is so bad, I'd think about just walking Fielder, too.
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