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Saturday, October 13, 2012

LCS Round Day One: Tigers at Yankees

Sunday, October 13, 2012: Detroit Tigers (Fister) at New York Yankees (Pettitte)
Game 1 of Best of 7 series. 8:00 PM, TBS.

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   401. Tim D Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:04 PM (#4268680)
Yankee fans clearing out. They haven't seen the Valverde routine recently. Benoit had nuthin.
   402. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:04 PM (#4268681)
CHECKLIST:
Conradian Play []
Web Gem [X ]
1-2-3-4-5-6 inning [ ]
Strike Out of Side [ X]
Dramatic late-inning homer [ ]
Stolen base [ ]
Caught stealing []
Shapeshifting strikezone [ ]
Replay review [ ]
Inning-Ending DP [ ]
Play at the plate [ ]
Baserunning blunder [ ]
Bunt [ X]
THIS TRAIN! [X]
Bunt [X]
Verlander in dugout [ X]
Sabathia in dugout [ ]
Trout mentioned (fish or ballplayer) [ ]
Miguel Cabrera does something awesome [ ] (Very nice scoring-from-first paly, though)
Ichiro does something awesome [ ]
A-Rod strikes out (assuming he even plays) [ X]
Raul Ibanez is a effing clutch god [ ]
Image of Girardi looking at binder [ ]
Shutdown inning [X ]
Game goes past midnight [ ]
Girardi's playing career [X ]
Prince Fielder goes deep [ ]
Is Cabrera going to be MVP? [ ]
Yogi sighting []
Mention of Jeter getting/closing in on his 200th postseason hit [X]
Ty Cobb mentioned [ ]
Babe Ruth mentioned [ ]
Mariano Rivera mentioned [ ]
Idiot runs on the field [ ]
It gets cold enough that we can see the players' breath [ ]
Balk [ ]
Runner picked off []
Reggie Jackson pointed out in the crowd [ ]
   403. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:05 PM (#4268684)
It's almost like...Austin Jackson is better than Curtis Granderson.
   404. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:06 PM (#4268685)
Dumb bunt.
   405. Good cripple hitter Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:07 PM (#4268686)
Sutcliffe just called Derek Jeter the Wayne Gretzky of baseball. Not Ruth, not Aaron, no, Derek Jeter. Oof.
   406. fra paolo Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:07 PM (#4268687)
What's up with Omar? He's playing about as well as he did in his first week with the Tigers.
   407. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:07 PM (#4268688)
The luxury field box section looks 60% full, tops.


The sad thing about that, having sat in those seats a couple of times (non-Wall Street connection via my sister-in-law), is that there's no good reason to miss a pitch. You've got waiter service to your seat, of course. But if you don't like the booze on that menu, you've also got dedicated bars not only directly behind home plate but on either end of the section. Down the first base line, between innings you can easily get in and out of the Ketel One-sponsored bar with a beer in hand - there's never been a line in my experience. There's also all kinds of free snack stuff and soft drinks (Cracker Jacks, sunflower seeds, etc.) just inside the door of the main club room that you can also grab easily between innings. Plus, at least at the hottest day games I've attended, free bottled water in ice chests in the aisles, never more than a few steps from your seat.
   408. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM (#4268689)
It's kind of incredible that the A-Rod thing has reached the point where even the announce crew has a tough time getting on him.
   409. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM (#4268690)
Sutcliffe just called Derek Jeter the Wayne Gretzky of baseball. Not Ruth, not Aaron, no, Derek Jeter. Oof.

I always thought/assumed Gretzky was the Ruth of hockey, but IIRC people who actually watch/care about hockey think he's actually pretty overrated, so...maybe that's what Sutcliffe meant.
   410. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM (#4268692)

Sutcliffe just called Derek Jeter the Wayne Gretzky of baseball. Not Ruth, not Aaron, no, Derek Jeter. Oof.


Genetically, the closest thing to Wayne Gretzky plays in the Cubs system. Didn't do that bad in the Arizona League.
   411. Rennie's Tenet Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM (#4268693)
Thinking about the Dawson State Farm commercial further... Maybe Andre disappeared into the ivy while playing for the Marlins, and ended up putting on a Cubs uniform that someone else had lost in the ivy when his Florida jersey disintegrated after being worn for several years.


What you need is a former Marlin who finished his career as a Cub, and who emerges from that thing in the Marlins outfield in a new commercial.
   412. JE (Jason) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM (#4268694)
Hooray for Smoltz for giving props to players who choose not to pout over every strikeout.
   413. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM (#4268695)
The awkward silence after "Where do you go? There's five years left on that contract. Where do you go?" wasn't just a PostseasonTV glitch, was it?
   414. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM (#4268697)


What you need is a former Marlin who finished his career as a Cub, and who emerges from that thing in the Marlins outfield in a new commercial.


Or emerges during a Dolphins game....
   415. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM (#4268698)
I wonder what a family in Des Moines, Iowa thinks of players and an umpire randomly yelling at them about Gucamole. Sorry if somebody did that joke before.
   416. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:14 PM (#4268699)
Now Girardi is going to a LaRussa strategy? It's reasonable now, but why not use these guys in the higher-lev 8th?
   417. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4268700)
Hooray for Smoltz for giving props to players who choose not to pout over every strikeout.
Yeah, I really liked that. Smoltz gets better and better.
   418. fra paolo Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4268701)
Are we getting Valverde? It's not a save situation.
   419. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4268703)
Now Girardi is going to a LaRussa strategy? It's reasonable now, but why not use these guys in the higher-lev 8th?

Look, when you've got Derek Lowe and there's a high leverage situation, you use Derek Lowe.
   420. Tim D Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:16 PM (#4268705)
I follow ockey fairly closely and I never recall anyone suggesting Gretky was overrated. I'd say Ruth is a fair comp. He changed the way the gme was played. And it not that way anymore, just like baseball has never gotten back to the 20s and 30s, if we control for PEDs.
   421. Good cripple hitter Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:16 PM (#4268706)
I always thought/assumed Gretzky was the Ruth of hockey, but IIRC people who actually watch/care about hockey think he's actually pretty overrated, so...maybe that's what Sutcliffe meant.


I don't watch or care about hockey anymore, but IMO 'pretty overrated' for Gretzky still easily lands him in... top 3? I can't imagine him slipping past top 4-5 all-time, and even that might be a stretch.

I never recall anyone suggesting Gretky was overrated.


Every now and then I hear someone suggest maybe Orr or someone else was better because Gretzky didn't play the physical game / was protected by his linemates.
   422. fra paolo Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4268707)
Why waste your closer here? Mr Leyland, what are you thinking? Look what happened with Drew Storen.
   423. Tim D Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4268709)
We will get Valverde. Guaranteed. And I will be holding my breath. It may be 1-2-3 and it may be fireworks. You never know.
   424. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:18 PM (#4268710)
Who's the Babe Ruth of Basketball? Wilt? MJ?
Football? Walter Payton? Jerry Rice? Hard with football since it's so specialized...
   425. fra paolo Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM (#4268711)
it may be fireworks

My money's on bang, zoom.
   426. Hey - you and Tommy Lasorda...I hate Tommy Lasorda Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM (#4268712)
To quote the Bud Light commercial, "Here we go"
   427. JJ1986 Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4268713)
Bill Walsh is the Babe Ruth of football. No player made as much of an impact on the game.
   428. fra paolo Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4268714)
I cannot go through a closer implosion again so soon after last night.
   429. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4268715)
Gotta get Albuquerque back up. Now!
   430. shoewizard Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4268716)
That shot from the balloon of the nearly empty stadium was amazng.
   431. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4268717)
I never recall anyone suggesting Gretky was overrated.


I don't give a toss about hockey, & so have no opinion one way or the other, but I'm pretty sure the Gretzy-is-overrated theme came up on BTF within the last couple of weeks, with more than one person signing on.
   432. JE (Jason) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:22 PM (#4268722)
Why waste your closer here? Mr Leyland, what are you thinking? Look what happened with Drew Storen.

In fairness, Davey had used Chad Tracy as a pinch hitter for Clippard. Who else was he going to use in the ninth?
   433. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM (#4268724)
Jeter is a choker. Bench him.
   434. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM (#4268725)
If the Tigers lose this game, Leyland should be fired right now. And I've been just about his biggest supporter. He cannot allow one pitcher to screw away the whole season for everyone else on the team.
   435. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268726)
Ichiro does something awesome [X]
   436. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268727)
I hate you, Valverde.
   437. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268728)
Who's the Babe Ruth of Basketball? Wilt? MJ?


Wilt, I'd say. Like Ruth, he dwarfed all sorts of previous records. Jordan ... didn't, AFAIK, though, y'know, I guess he didn't suck.
   438. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268729)
Yes, you still need a new closer Jim.
   439. Good cripple hitter Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268730)
I don't give a toss about hockey, & so have no opinion one way or the other, but I'm pretty sure the Gretzy-is-overrated theme came up on BTF within the last couple of weeks, with more than one person signing on.

You're right, it did come up once recently. There wasn't much of a discussion, one person said he was overrated but still in the conversation as greatest hockey player.

ICHIRO!
   440. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268731)
Al-bu-querque! Al-bu-querque! Get this fat #### out of there, Leyland.
   441. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268732)
Pull Valverde now - right now
   442. shoewizard Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268733)
Valverde kinda sucks now
   443. 'Spos Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268734)
That could have been a five run homer if Ichiro wanted...
   444. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268735)
Derek Lowe now the difference in this game.
   445. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268736)
Ichiro should probably reevaluate when he's going to choose to hit home runs.
   446. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4268737)
Yes, you still need a new closer Jim.


Make Verlander the closer on days he doesn't start.
   447. fra paolo Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4268738)
Oh, I saw that coming as soon as it left Valverde's hand. There was something about the way Suzuki looked thoughtful after the called strike.
   448. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4268739)
Ichiro could have hit that one in the upper deck, if he had wanted to.
   449. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4268740)
Why wait till the tying run is up ? Pull him now - ####### now - jesus
   450. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4268741)
Now Valverde's pouting because of the horrible call on the first pitch to Cano.
   451. JE (Jason) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4268742)
Valverde has been awful all season so what's going to be Leyland's excuse?
   452. Kiko Sakata Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4268743)
In fairness, Davey had used Chad Tracy as a pinch hitter for Clippard. Who else was he going to use in the ninth?


The problem wasn't using Storen in Game 5. The problem was using Storen to close out an 8-0 loss in Game 3, which led to Game 5 being Storen's 3rd appearance in 3 days. If you can get away without using Valverde tonight, you potentially have a more well-rested and, hence, better Valverde in games 2-3-4 if you need him.

(edit: All of this is, of course, setting aside the fact that even a "well-rested and, hence, better Valverde" probably isn't very good.)
   453. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4268744)
Dotel warming?
   454. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4268745)
AHHHHH IBANEZ!
   455. Tim D Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4268746)
Leyland will be the Captain of the Titanic, going down with Valverde as is first mate. He is loyal to a fault.
   456. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4268747)
Makeup call for the 0-0.
   457. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4268748)
This has been some horrible ball/strike calling.
   458. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4268749)
Ichiro should probably reevaluate when he's going to choose to hit home runs.

Strangely, this one was an accident.
   459. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4268750)
Leyland will be the Captain of the Titanic, going down with Valverde as is first mate. He is loyal to a fault.


Nearer my god to thee.....
   460. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4268751)
Here comes another HR ...
   461. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4268752)
I owe 'Spos a hackneyed cliche' infused coke.
   462. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4268753)
Sit down!

Get Valverde out of this game.
   463. 'Spos Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4268754)
lucky
   464. JJ1986 Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4268755)
I'm shocked that he missed that.
   465. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4268756)
Jeez. That was not a good pitch that Cano missed.
   466. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4268757)
Another K - never a dull moment with Valverde.
   467. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:29 PM (#4268758)
Incredibly undisciplined hack by Cano - pulling his head off the ball so early.
   468. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:29 PM (#4268759)
What the hell is up with Cano?
   469. 'Spos Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM (#4268760)
...spot me a tired metaphor & we're good...
   470. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM (#4268761)
Agree with the crew - why wouldn't Tex bunt here, especially down 2 strikes?
   471. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:31 PM (#4268762)
Could bunt foul now, but should have earlier
   472. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4268765)
Valverde is ####### terrible.
   473. Famous Original Joe C Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4268766)
I'm in the Gretzky is overrated camp. He's clearly the most prodigious scorer in the history of the league, but he also put up the bulk of his numbers in the highest scoring era in league history. Plus, he was a one way player, the rough equivalent of a mediocre defensive 1b in baseball. At least three other guys have an argument for being at least as good (Howe, Orr, Lemieux). Those who think he is obviously far and away the best player ever overrate him, IMO.
   474. 'Spos Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4268767)
Why bunt when you can walk?
   475. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4268768)
And for no good reason, Valverde works himself from 0-2 to 3-2.
   476. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4268769)
Leyland will be the Captain of the Titanic, going down with Valverde as is first mate. He is loyal to a fault.

I guess so.
   477. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4268770)
NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT HIM !
   478. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4268771)
Four thousand fans in Yankee Stadium rise as one...
   479. Lassus Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4268772)
Egads
   480. Austin Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4268773)
Is it time to bring out the baby tiger?
   481. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4268774)
Pull him. Leaving him in is gross incompetence.
   482. JJ1986 Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4268775)
I think it's time to pull Valverde.
   483. crict Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4268776)
Get. him. out. of. the. game. now. Miggy, as "MVP", it's your duty to injure him right there so Leyland will have no choice.
   484. JE (Jason) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4268777)
Darling is 100% right: If Valverde manages to retire Ibanez, he had better not do some douchey victory jig.
   485. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:34 PM (#4268779)
I'm rooting for a walk.
   486. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:34 PM (#4268780)
Four thousand fans in Yankee Stadium rise as one...

Heh.
   487. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:34 PM (#4268781)
Why is he still in?!?!?!?!?
   488. I Am Not a Number Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:34 PM (#4268782)
Bring Coke back for Ibanez? Maybe new Coke?
   489. Chip Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268783)
Four thousand fans in Yankee Stadium rise as one...


And sound like 1500.
   490. 'Spos Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268784)
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
   491. JJ1986 Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268785)
Too predictable
   492. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268786)
holy ############# ####
   493. Good cripple hitter Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268787)
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUL!
   494. fra paolo Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268789)
This post-season is going to kill me.
   495. Gamingboy Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268790)
Raul Ibanez, Clutch God [X]

Damn him. Damn him.
   496. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268791)
#### fuck ####. You ####### deserve this, Leyland.
   497. Lassus Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268792)
WAT
   498. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268793)
HOLY ####### ####!!!!
   499. Austin Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268794)
Is this real?
   500. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4268795)
I always thought/assumed Gretzky was the Ruth of hockey, but IIRC people who actually watch/care about hockey think he's actually pretty overrated, so...maybe that's what Sutcliffe meant.


For the first 20 years of my life (and parts of the next 20), I was a die-hard hockey fan (born/raised in Toronto).

Gretzky is overrated, but still the greatest of all time in the sport.

In general, the "greatest" talk is limited to just 4 players (none of them goalies):

Wayne Gretzky - far too much dominance and recognition of said dominance to be ignored. He still holds all the records, and barring a massive change in goaltending/rules, he will for many many many years.

Gordie Howe - This choice tends to skew heavily to those over 50. "Mr. Hockey" was a very good choice for "greatest of all time". A point producer and a known bad ass on the ice, he is often chosen as the embodiment of what old-time hockey fans wish every player was like. His records (before Gretzky smashed them) were based on 60% skill, 40% longevity.

Bobby Orr - Probably the best contender to legitimately knock Gretzky off the top spot, simply because he was the player that changed the sport. In terms of "Babe Ruth of hockey", he might be the one (where Ruth turned trying to hit HR into a strategy, Orr turned defensemen into an offensive position). Ridiculous amounts of skill, but a brittle body that could have had another 5 years added on easily if he played today (due to medical advancements).

Mario Lemieux - He might be the best combination of skill and size in the history of the sport. Probably the biggest choice among "Gretzky haters" as the best ever. Injuries also hurt his career, but coming back from cancer treatment in the middle of the season (and missing 20 games) and still winning the scoring title? Amazing.
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