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LEAGUE CHAMPION SERIES OMNICHATTER! for the 2018 Playoffs!

HOUSTON! BOSTON!
BREWERS! DODGERS!

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 11, 2018 at 02:51 PM | 2616 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   2001. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:16 AM (#5770024)
Kimbrel better go home and pray to his gods tonight in thanksgiving.
   2002. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:17 AM (#5770025)
In strat, that's Fly(lf)X and rolling a mf'ing 20.
   2003. Tin Angel Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:17 AM (#5770026)
Man, what the #### was Cora doing?
   2004. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:17 AM (#5770027)
With a better closer, Houston doesn't get close. Kimbrel got bailed out by the defense.
   2005. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:18 AM (#5770028)
I'll bet Kimbrel keeps his closer job.
   2006. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:18 AM (#5770029)
Man, what the #### was Cora doing?

I think he watched Boone fail around in the ALDS, and then went 'yep, that is how it should be done.'
   2007. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:19 AM (#5770030)
With a better closer, Houston doesn't get close. Kimbrel got bailed out by the defense.


I'm not a thousand percent sure that better relievers than Kimbrel grow on trees despite tonight's display.
   2008. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:20 AM (#5770031)
@SamMillerBB
Tony Kemp was the first batter Craig Kimbrel ever faced twice in the same game
   2009. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:23 AM (#5770032)
T: 4:33
   2010. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:23 AM (#5770033)
@based_ball
official time of game: four hours and 33 minutes. second-longest nine-inning game in playoff history. tied for the fourth-longest nine-inning game in *baseball* history, counting the regular season
   2011. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:24 AM (#5770034)
Jesus. I doubt most LFs try for that.


So what you're saying is that it's a great play, one that most left fielders would not have made.

(I kid)
   2012. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:25 AM (#5770035)
Wow, I didn't see it live earlier...that Joe West call on the Altuve home run was absolutely ridiculous. The Sox win should have an asterisk.
   2013. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:25 AM (#5770036)
I'll bet Kimbrel keeps his closer job.

He's been underutilized - the "lesson learned" may be to give him more two-inning save opportunities.
   2014. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:27 AM (#5770037)
That's was one crazy ####### game.

FWIW--Seeing the replay now a bunch of times: (a) Betts' glove seems in line with the fence and (b) the fan's hands seem extended past the boundary of the fence.
   2015. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:27 AM (#5770038)
TBF, that was an intense game throughout, a way better example of postseason baseball than game one. Neither team ever got up by more than three.

Sadly, this means I probably see Rick Porcello again in the World Series, where again I will remind you all that you are watching a Grade A bum.
   2016. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:28 AM (#5770039)
Cora has a horseshoe up his ass.


Bob Brenly 2.0
   2017. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:28 AM (#5770041)
also tbf, if this were the Kimbrel of a couple years ago I wouldn't be worried about going to him for a two inning save. But he's been downright bad this season.
   2018. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:29 AM (#5770042)
FWIW--Seeing the replay now a bunch of times: (a) Betts' glove seems in line with the fence and (b) the fan's hands seem extended past the boundary of the fence.
The rule apparently says that the fan must reach over and "plainly" interfere with the fielder. Not meant to apply when the fielder is leaping over the fence and the fan is just doing what fans do. The rule didn't intend for the call to come down to "was the glove or the fan's hand an inch on one side or the other of the fence?"
   2019. BackNine Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:29 AM (#5770043)
All of the guys on the post game show seem sure that Betts reached into the stands. I just don't think we can tell. I don't know how they can be so sure.
   2020. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:31 AM (#5770044)
@SamMillerBB
Tony Kemp was the first batter Craig Kimbrel ever faced twice in the same game


That's unreal.
   2021. BackNine Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:32 AM (#5770046)
Actually, I do think it should come down to which side of the fence the fan's hand was on. If the fan is reaching over the fence and hits the player's glove, it's interference. How else would you judge it?
   2022. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:34 AM (#5770047)
I agree with [2014]. They're showing it right now on TBS and -- although Betts is reaching behind him -- he's not right against the fence when he jumps. The farthest guy on the right leaning into the play (white shirt, blue jeans) looks like his hand is over the fence and the two guys next to him have their hands farther forward at the instant Betts's glove begins to close. I've got it freeze-framed on my TV.
   2023. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:35 AM (#5770048)
I don't see how you can have Kimbrel close anymore. It's madness. Fregosi tied himself to the mast for Mitch Williams and got burned; I hope to hell Cora has better sense than that.
   2024. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:39 AM (#5770049)
Actually, I do think it should come down to which side of the fence the fan's hand was on. If the fan is reaching over the fence and hits the player's glove, it's interference. How else would you judge it?
(a) The word "plainly" is in there for a reason. This instance was the opposite of "plain." (b) I'm assuming, and correct me if I'm wrong about this, that the rule was put in place back in the rough-and-tumble early days of baseball, when spectators were often much closer to (or even in) fair territory, and players and spectators alike could get away with a lot more shenanigans (and thus tried much more often).

Given that context and the inclusion of "plainly," it seems like the rule was intended to prevent a situation where a spectator obviously reaches out and swats away the ball as the fielder is about to catch it -- not parsing out whose glove and whose hand was an inch this way or that way on the high-def slow-motion replay.
   2025. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:39 AM (#5770050)
Perfect photo of the Betts-Altuve play.

Tag yourself; I'm the dude in the "Reagan/Bush 84" hat.
   2026. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:40 AM (#5770051)
Well, at the very least Kimbrel won't throw tomorrow. So there's that. Presumably Barnes is the closer by default as he pitched the least tonight.

Price got hot in the 8th/9th so you have to wonder if he can give them anything more than 2-3 IP tomorrow; he already is on 3 days' rest.

Sort of de-rostering Hembree and bringing in Velaszquez or Pomeranz, I'm not sure what the move is here. Maybe start Workman, have him throw 2, go to Hembree, and see where you are after 4 IP?
   2027. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:41 AM (#5770052)
Cora announces Price will start tomorrow.
   2028. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:50 AM (#5770054)
EdRod threw limited pitches in G3/G4 and so in theory would be available for maybe 1 IP tomorrow... except as best as I can tell he's never pitched in 3 straight games. Barnes also had 16 pitches in Game 3 and 5 (!) in Game 4, so in theory he could give you 1 IP. Kelly threw 4 pitches in Game 3 but 25 in Game 4; maybe he gives you an out or two. Hembree and Workman can probably get you 2 IP each.

Maybe you can piece together 27 outs as long as Price gets you 9. I dunno. Hitting Verlander early would be nice, but I'm not expecting it. The thing I fear now is Verlander out of the pen in a potential Game 7...
   2029. BackNine Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:51 AM (#5770055)
"However, should a spectator reach out on the playing field side of such fence, railing or rope, and plainly prevent the fielder from catching the ball, then the batsman should be called out for the spectator's interference"

The word "plainly" in that sentence is an adverb addressing the word "prevent". It does not address whether the "reaching out" part was done "plainly". So it seems clear from that wording that if the spectator reached out onto the playing field side of the fence, that's enough to merit an interference call as long as the fielder was "plainly" prevented from making the catch by the spectator's action. One inch into the playing field, ten inches, whatever. It doesn't matter. If he breached the barrier, he's on the playing field side.

Now, you could certainly argue about whether the contact plainly prevented Betts making the catch. But that's a separate issue.
   2030. dave h Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:54 AM (#5770057)
The fan plainly interfered; he caused Betts' glove to close, and the ball hit his glove. He likely catches it if there were no fan, as he's done everything right up to that point. The only question is whether the fan was in the field of play. I don't think the "plainly" part refers to that part of the rule. There's a plane going straight up from the wall. On one side the players and ball cannot be touched. On the other it's fair game.

Or are you arguing that fans should be able to get away with a little bit of roughhousing, even on balls that haven't crossed the boundary yet, as long as it's close? Because that's bats# crazy to me.

Also I have no idea when I'm going to be able to get to sleep.

Edit: most of a Coke to BackNine.
   2031. BackNine Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:54 AM (#5770058)
By the way, regarding the second part, the fan plainly interfered with Betts. The contact with the spectator caused his glove to close and restrained its progress toward the ball. What you could argue, I guess, would be whether he would have made the catch if the fan didn't hit his glove. Given that the ball hit the side of his closed glove, which was slowed by the fan, I'd say he would have made the catch. Say, a 75% chance. Is that "plainly" enough? Maybe not. I don't know.
   2032. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:00 AM (#5770060)
TE Jr. asked me on way to bed if this was what 2004 was like. I said imagine 4 of those in a row...
   2033. Voodoo Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:01 AM (#5770061)
Fans were plainly reaching out on the playing side (this angle shows it the best that I've seen), and it was plain to me that he would have caught it had he not made contact with the fan; what isn't clear, and I'm not sure if it matters, is what side of the "line" did the contact between the mitt and the hand occur? And the rule isn't very helpful here. If white-shirt dude with his left hand on the top of the wall and his other clearly in the field of play, doesn't actually touch Betts, did he interfere?
   2034. Tin Angel Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:01 AM (#5770062)
The contact with the spectator caused his glove to close and restrained its progress toward the ball. What you could argue, I guess, would be whether he would have made the catch if the fan didn't hit his glove.


Right, but that's irrelevant if Betts is reaching into the stands. Which we don't seem to have a clear angle on.
   2035. Bote Man Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:09 AM (#5770063)
One thing's for sure, he's no Jeffrey Maier.
   2036. Baldrick Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:43 AM (#5770065)
The pictures posted here have mostly convinced me. I still don't think it's 100% clear one way or the other, but it seems likelier than not to me that it was interference. In which case, I have no problem with the result, or the process.
   2037. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: October 18, 2018 at 05:34 AM (#5770067)
"I can get ejected in the first inning, which is ridiculous in a playoff game," Hinch said. "But there's no mechanism for me to change their mind, change their interpretation, change the fact that I thought the ball was a row or two into the stands. It doesn't matter what I think. I'm not in New York [near replay officials, and I'm not an umpire."

I am really amused by this quote from Hinch. Is he just now becoming familiar with the concept of umpiring? Does he think he should get to make the call for them? Does he not understand why they won't just take his word for what happened (despite the fact that he is in no better position to see than any of the umps)?
   2038. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 18, 2018 at 07:14 AM (#5770072)
The Betts non-catch shows why some parks put a barrier between low outfield walls and the first row of the seats. It takes some of the drama out of the game, but it prevents controversies like last night's.

FTR I have no idea whether the ball passed over the wall, because the replay angles weren't all that clear. But that said, it was a judgment call and I'm willing to let it stand. And obviously, whether it's relevant or not, Betts would've caught the ball without the fan sticking his hand in there.

And yet another great game that ended at half past midnight in nearly half of the country, including the part of the country where the winning team is based. All because the suits with their beancounting machines deem it more important to have the West Coast see the first half of the game than it is for the East Coast to see the finish. Hell of a way to promote a product. You don't see the NFL pulling that sort of #### for their conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.

EDIT: And I see that if the NLCS goes to game 7, the first pitch will be at 9:09. The last game like that ended at 2:24 in the morning.
   2039. John DiFool2 Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:19 AM (#5770095)
Tag yourself; I'm the dude in the "Reagan/Bush 84" hat.


The fat woman with the glasses and dark 'Stros shirt is what makes me LOL.
   2040. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:21 AM (#5770098)
I'm the screaming Astros fan. For some reason I thought she was a Red Sox fan when watching the game.
   2041. The_Ex Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:25 AM (#5770099)
As a neutral I am thinking that Alex Cora has done a very good job to get the Sox to the 3-1 lead in the series when I thought Houston would win.

But then I come here and see that actually its all luck and that Cora has no idea what he is doing.
   2042. Nasty Nate Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:44 AM (#5770112)
Cora has managed the playoffs well. Saying he is Brenlying it strikes me as a way to retain sky-is-fallingism in the face of a 3-1 series lead.
   2043. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:53 AM (#5770119)
As a neutral I am thinking that Alex Cora has done a very good job to get the Sox to the 3-1 lead in the series when I thought Houston would win.

But then I come here and see that actually its all luck and that Cora has no idea what he is doing.

Cora has managed the playoffs well. Saying he is Brenlying it strikes me as a way to retain sky-is-fallingism in the face of a 3-1 series lead.

Cora, Shmorra. The most important difference by far in this series so far has been this. Take away that factor and the Astros would likely be up 3-1 or possibly have won the series already.
   2044. SoSH U at work Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:56 AM (#5770125)

Cora has managed the playoffs well. Saying he is Brenlying it strikes me as a way to retain sky-is-fallingism in the face of a 3-1 series lead.


He stayed too long with Kimbrel last night (with Price ready to go and two lefties up), but otherwise he's been fine.

It just dawned on me last night that the last two Sox skippers won the World Series in their first seasons in Boston. So, they need to let Cora just stay the course for the rest of the playoffs, then fire him at season's end.



   2045. puck Posted: October 18, 2018 at 10:40 AM (#5770161)
It seemed Cora stuck with Porcello too long. But I don't know what the Sox have behind him. Rodriguez (the lefty who came in for one guy) -- he was a starter during the regular season, right?. Seems like a cromulent pitcher. Is it too much for a lefty to pitch against that lineup, with the sort LF wall?
   2046. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 10:55 AM (#5770186)
If they can somehow squeeze Barnes and Braiser for 9 outs, they have a chance. There is no way in hell Kimbrel gets 6 outs. None. Zero. I don't care how wet my pants are accused of being--it is simply written in stone that Craig Kimbrel can not get a 6 out save.


Heh.
   2047. Nasty Nate Posted: October 18, 2018 at 11:00 AM (#5770191)
Classic
   2048. jmurph Posted: October 18, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5770196)
God help me but I'm still convinced Price has a 6-7 inning gem in him this postseason. Will it be tonight?

Also Eovaldi would start game 7, right? Assuming Sale goes in 6?
   2049. TomH Posted: October 18, 2018 at 11:18 AM (#5770219)
2043: JBJ's "WPA" per bb-ref is at 0.70, by far the Series' best. So the Sox would be up 2.3 to 1.7 games without him. :) Pretty good for a guy with a .200 batting average!
   2050. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 11:57 AM (#5770282)
If they can somehow squeeze Barnes and Braiser for 9 outs, they have a chance. There is no way in hell Kimbrel gets 6 outs. None. Zero. I don't care how wet my pants are accused of being--it is simply written in stone that Craig Kimbrel can not get a 6 out save.


Yup. That's me, wiping egg off my face.

The pedantic in me would argue Kimbrel *got* 5 outs and Kemp just handed him one and/or Betts got the other one.

Can't wait for Cora to try this again. I mean it worked, right? So now Kimbrel can 6-out close the rest of the postseason with nothing to worry about, right?
   2051. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 11:58 AM (#5770284)
Also Eovaldi would start game 7, right? Assuming Sale goes in 6?


Yes, but based on how Cora's managed so far, with 2 days' rest ahead of a G7 start, I'd assume Eovaldi could/will throw 1 IP tonight if needed/the Red Sox have a lead late, given the currents state of the bullpen.
   2052. SoSH U at work Posted: October 18, 2018 at 12:09 PM (#5770301)
Can't wait for Cora to try this again. I mean it worked, right? So now Kimbrel can 6-out close the rest of the postseason with nothing to worry about, right?


Last night was his best performance by ERA in the postseason. Think how good he's going to be if Cora lets him get nine outs.
   2053. jmurph Posted: October 18, 2018 at 12:19 PM (#5770312)
I'd assume Eovaldi could/will throw 1 IP tonight if needed/the Red Sox have a lead late, given the currents state of the bullpen.

Yeah that would make sense.

They really need Price to go at least 5. It's just going to be a mess if they have to pull him early.
   2054. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:34 PM (#5770385)
As a neutral I am thinking that Alex Cora has done a very good job to get the Sox to the 3-1 lead in the series when I thought Houston would win.

But then I come here and see that actually its all luck and that Cora has no idea what he is doing.

Cora has managed the playoffs well. Saying he is Brenlying it strikes me as a way to retain sky-is-fallingism in the face of a 3-1 series lead.

Yep, it sure was a genius move by Cora, to tell JBJ to be a clutch god, and rack up 9 rbi, and hit 700ft home runs. Without him being completely ridiculous, they would be down 3-1... at best.

Also really smart of him, to make the Astros hit .222 wRISP the last 3 games, that was super smart.

He left Price in too long, and it cost the team runs. He left Porcello in way too long, when the Astros were teeing off and even the outs were loud, and it cost him. He used Eduardo as a loogy, the one pitcher in a thin pen, who should be able to give him some length. Expecting Kimbrel to get 6 outs was practically suicidal... He now has allowed 7 baserunners in 3 innings this series, with a 6.00 ERA. And that is with some of the best defensive plays of the season behind him, without which it would have been much much worse. The whole time he left Price warming up for those 2 innings, likely making him less effective today... and why exactly? I mean if he didn't come in the way things played out, when was he going to use him? After Benni missed the diving catch, and the Astros walked it off? If you are going to ride with Kimbrel no matter what, there is no reason to leave Price in the pen taxing his arm for that long.

And all of that could have been much much worse, if they hadn't gotten some ridiculously clutch defensive plays (and one of them questionable of course). The Altuve stolen HR by Betts. Throwing out Kemp at second with a perfect throw. Keeping runners at second / third on two other throws. And of course the Benintendi dive to end the game, on what could have been a walkoff for the Stros.

Not to mention, that the hitter who is second in WPA for the series - Rafael Devers (a move everyone here was calling for, because Nunez has been awful)- is only playing because Nunez got hurt.

I think Cora has been pretty great overall this season. But if he was an Astros plant, trying to sabotage the Sox, I am not sure he could be doing much better, without doing something so obvious that he would get himself fired immediately and replaced mid-series.
   2055. Nasty Nate Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:43 PM (#5770400)
Sure, if all the Sox' success and Astros' failures are chalked up to luck, and all of the Sox' failures and Astros' successes are pinned to Cora, I would grade him as bad too.
   2056. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:08 PM (#5770421)
Sure, if all the Sox' success and Astros' failures are chalked up to luck, and all of the Sox' failures and Astros' successes are pinned to Cora, I would grade him as bad too.

That is not it at all. Simply saying '3-1 so Cora has been great' is the approach that simply chalk up success and failure to the managers.

If you want to evaluate managers properly, you need to try and isolate the things they are actually responsible for. #1 is obviously pitcher usage. And in a postseason, where we have consistently seen the managers who were willing to pull a starter early have success, Cora has opted to ride his starters and it has cost him. And I already went into the misgivings with his reliever usage.

The other thing is the starters that are actually not automatic. I see no reason to give Cora credit for playing Betts, JBJ and Benintendi. A moderately well trained parrot could pencil those in.
   2057. Textbook Editor Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:12 PM (#5770423)
Look, I get luck (the defensive plays, arguably) is the residue of design but... Trotting Kimbrel out there over and over and expecting anything different than the mechanical mess he is right now is madness.

My only hope is that Cora was bench coach for a team that abandoned their "closer" mid-WS... so maybe he eventually will find Jesus and sit Kimbrel the #### down in a save situation.

I'm not going to hold my breath on that, though.
   2058. Nasty Nate Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:22 PM (#5770434)
Cora has opted to ride his starters and it has cost him.
It hasn't cost him much at all this series. Unless you really wanted him to yank Porcello after 2 innings. I don't think Rodriguez is very reliable right now as a reliever, and these innings we're hypothetically pulling from the starters have to go somewhere.
   2059. Michael J. Binkley's anxiety closet Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:25 PM (#5770437)
It just dawned on me last night that the last two Sox skippers won the World Series in their first seasons in Boston. So, they need to let Cora just stay the course for the rest of the playoffs, then fire him at season's end.


I’m glad you’ve been able to mentally block out the Bobby Valentine “era” better than the rest of us.
   2060. Rally Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:40 PM (#5770453)
Speaking of closer questions, if the Astros ever have a late inning lead again, do they go with Osuna?

He's pitched just once in this series and made Kimbrel look like Mariano Rivera by comparison. SSS, of course.

But he's played much of his career in the same division as the Red Sox and they have hit him hard, a 5.28 ERA in 29 innings.
   2061. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: October 18, 2018 at 03:03 PM (#5770470)
Ty Kelly @tykelly11 17m17 minutes ago

I just started typing the words “I got” and my phone’s suggestions for the next word we’re “to,” “for,” and “DFAd.” This is not a joke. It’s just happened that many times.
   2062. TomH Posted: October 18, 2018 at 03:04 PM (#5770471)
Timing.
Astros have drawn 5 more walks.
Astros have same # of hits, except they have 2 HR instead of singles.
Astros have 2 more SB, 1 more CS.
Errors same.
But Astros have allowed 5 more runs, instead of maybe allowing 3-4 fewer than one might expect.
This is looking like the 2009 WS where Philly crushed the NYY pitching, expect when it mattered.
Timing.
   2063. perros Posted: October 18, 2018 at 03:20 PM (#5770478)
The Dodgers scored two runs over 26 innings of play in El Lay yet won two of three games.

After Game 1, their pitching has obviously been outstanding.
   2064. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 18, 2018 at 03:27 PM (#5770485)
Ty Kelly @tykelly11 17m17 minutes ago

I just started typing the words “I got” and my phone’s suggestions for the next word we’re “to,” “for,” and “DFAd.” This is not a joke. It’s just happened that many times.
What kind of sentence starts with "I got for"? That guy's phone ain't real bright.
   2065. Tin Angel Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5770504)
It is what it is.
   2066. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:34 PM (#5770529)
Can't wait for Cora to try this again. I mean it worked, right? So now Kimbrel can 6-out close the rest of the postseason with nothing to worry about, right?

That would seem to be the plan. Sounds "exciting", and should goose the late-game ratings. Who can call it a night with Kimbrel coming into the game?
   2067. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 05:23 PM (#5770560)
TomH, what about wild pitches/passed balls?
   2068. Lassus Posted: October 18, 2018 at 07:31 PM (#5770598)
This pregame is really brutal, even with sound off. I imagine the horribleness.
   2069. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:02 PM (#5770601)
C'mon Astros, I want at least one more game from this series after tonight!
   2070. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:05 PM (#5770602)
The whole time he left Price warming up for those 2 innings, likely making him less effective today... and why exactly? I mean if he didn't come in the way things played out, when was he going to use him?


After that much dry humping, I'd hate to have been the clubhouse laundry guy ...
   2071. Bote Man Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:29 PM (#5770608)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHH! It's ON now!

Metro @metrolosangeles
Hey Dodgers fans going to Milwaukee for series conclusion, be careful stepping on those Brewers buses. We hear they're very delicate. #OuchMyTireGotABooBoo #LADetermined


RideMCTS @RideMCTS
We welcome all Dodgers fans. Please note we keep our buses clean unlike your shortstop who likes to play dirty. #OurCrewOurOctober
   2072. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:35 PM (#5770609)
Error on Bregman, allowed Kinsler to get on.
   2073. Jay Seaver Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:43 PM (#5770611)
Even if that error doesn't lead to runs, it's led to Verlander throwing a lot more pitchers than he might have.
   2074. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:44 PM (#5770612)
I wouldn't have thought it would be this starting pitcher who loaded the bases early.
   2075. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:48 PM (#5770615)
Really a squander.
   2076. puck Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:56 PM (#5770616)
Really a squander.

Really? It's Mookie, but there were 2 outs.
   2077. Bote Man Posted: October 18, 2018 at 08:57 PM (#5770617)
it's led to Verlander throwing a lot more pitchers than he might have.

Those would definitely put more wear and tear on his arm, to be sure.
   2078. Jay Seaver Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:09 PM (#5770622)
J.D.! Been kind of quiet most of the postseason, nice to have him make some noise.
   2079. puck Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:09 PM (#5770623)
Now they can put in Kimbrel!
   2080. The_Ex Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:10 PM (#5770624)
Per Gameday, Martinez should have been struck out before he homered.
   2081. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:17 PM (#5770626)
Per Gameday, Martinez should have been struck out before he homered.


It was absolutely a strikeout, and the ump just flat missed it. A great pitch gone begging.
   2082. puck Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:17 PM (#5770627)
Nice screwup by the pbp guy.
   2083. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:19 PM (#5770628)
David Price is pitching well.
   2084. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:20 PM (#5770630)
[x] SHUTDOWN INNING.
   2085. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:21 PM (#5770631)
It would have been nice if they would have sold slots to more than three advertisers.
   2086. Chip Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:22 PM (#5770632)
It was absolutely a strikeout, and the ump just flat missed it. A great pitch gone begging.


I’d feel worse if he hadn’t gotten a gift strike 2 call off the outside of the plate prior to that.
   2087. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:24 PM (#5770633)
Does anyone actually buy any of these Big Time Bats?
   2088. Howie Menckel Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:32 PM (#5770641)

Jayson Stark
‏Verified account @jaysonst
16m16 minutes ago

That Martinez HR was the 1st run Verlander had allowed in a postseason elimination game in 26 IP - & 7 years!

He'd thrown up zeroes in 3 straight elimination starts (which had never been done).

So that was his first run in an elim game since a Nelson Cruz HR, Game 5, 2011 ALCS
   2089. Chip Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:39 PM (#5770645)
Price getting more swings and misses as he goes along. Looking like the post-ASB guy we saw in July and August.
   2090. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:40 PM (#5770647)
David Price! David Price David Price David Price!
   2091. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:42 PM (#5770649)
Price is attacking batters, and it's great to see.
   2092. Lassus Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:45 PM (#5770651)
Has Price always been this Trachselesque, or is that new?
   2093. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:46 PM (#5770652)
Arrrrgh. Excellent at bat by Gourriel.
   2094. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:46 PM (#5770653)
He's been, if not the slowest, among the top 5 slowest starters in MLB since his Tampa Bay days. Although I think the proper adjective is Trachsellent.
   2095. Lassus Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:48 PM (#5770654)
Thanks, ElRoy. I'd prefer more pitching changes to a slow pitcher.
   2096. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:48 PM (#5770655)
Oh, you'll get both, don't worry.
   2097. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:50 PM (#5770656)
Just a liiiiiitle high.
   2098. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:51 PM (#5770658)
DAVID ######' PRICE.
   2099. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:52 PM (#5770659)
I KNEW I WAS RIGHT TO HAVE IRRATIONAL CONFIDENCE IN YOU.
   2100. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 18, 2018 at 09:52 PM (#5770660)
First Kershaw, now Price. I'm loving that these guys are giving the finger to the playoff narrative they've had to carry around for so long.
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