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Wednesday, August 01, 2012

Lee Smith awaits Hall of Fame call

Which will come as soon as the U.S. Patent Office gets off the line with Elisha Gray.

“The best thing that happened to me is Bruce Sutter, Goose Gossage, guys like that were on the ballot for 10 or 11 years (before getting into the Hall of Fame),” said Smith, who was at Parkview Field Monday as part of the Principal Financial Dreams Tour. “ … You look at how many teams have quality closers and you look at where those teams are without a good closer.”

Smith played 18 years in the majors. The former all-time saves leader, Smith finished his career with 478 saves.

He received 50.6 percent of the voting this year. He has been on the ballot since 2003. Players need 75 percent to enter the Hall.

“They are finally starting to understand that relief pitcher thing, the closer role,” Smith said. “And seeing how important it is to a ballclub now.”

...“Lee was one of the best closers in the game,” said Fort Wayne manager Jose Valentin, who said he faced Smith a couple of times. “He was one of the slowest guys I every saw, not only working, but coming to the mound. But when he got to the mound, the game was over.”

Repoz Posted: August 01, 2012 at 01:57 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. GregD Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:05 AM (#4197868)
said Fort Wayne manager Jose Valentin, who said he faced Smith a couple of times
if only there were some way to check this claim....
   2. bookbook Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:12 AM (#4197875)
Ken Singleton awaits Hall of Fame call.

Lou Whitaker awaits Hall of Fame call.

Disco Dan Ford awaits Hall of Fame call.
   3. GregD Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:23 AM (#4197881)
said Fort Wayne manager Jose Valentin, who said he faced Smith a couple of times
actually it was three times but off the top of his head that's not bad
   4. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:25 AM (#4197884)
Smith has done a smidge better in the voting than those three, bookbook. He wouldn't get my vote, but some smart folks here disagree (IIRC, Emeigh, for one, would vote for him).

Cue the "does 'a couple' strictly mean 'two' or something more akin to 'a few'" in three, two, one...
   5. zonk Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:32 AM (#4197894)
He was one of the slowest guys I every saw, not only working, but coming to the mound. But when he got to the mound, the game was over.


Well, this is certainly true... like game 4 in 1984, for example. It took a few batters, but yes - soon, the game was over.

I won't have any great gnashing of teeth if/when Lee gets in, but even as a big hall guy that would probably go to up 10 every ballot if I had one, I don't think Smith would make mine.
   6. AROM Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:42 AM (#4197904)
Postseason record won't help him a bit. He only had two postseasons. Had he pitched a decade later he would have had more chances to maybe even out his luck.

There's the 84 Cubs series which has been mentioned. His other one was the 88 Red Sox who got swept by the A's. Smith came into the 9th inning of game 2, tied at 3, and gave up the losing run. Then he pitched in game 4, his team down 2-1, and gave up 2 more. Though that game was already out of reach since the A's had Eckersley.
   7. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:45 AM (#4197907)
Then he pitched in game 4, his team down 2-1, and gave up 2 more. Though that game was already out of reach since the A's had Eckersley.


1988 Eckersley would never give up a one-run lead in a postseason game.
   8. AROM Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4197916)
Not to the Red Sox at least, they never brought out the gimp.
   9. zonk Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:11 AM (#4197924)
Not to the Red Sox at least, they never brought out the gimp.


Nor did they have 10 dogs to unleash.

   10. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: August 01, 2012 at 10:49 AM (#4197952)
Cue the "does 'a couple' strictly mean 'two' or something more akin to 'a few'" in three, two, one...


http://www.xkcd.com/1070/
   11. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: August 01, 2012 at 11:11 AM (#4197978)
He's a hell of a lot better candidate than Jack Morris.
   12. SoSH U at work Posted: August 01, 2012 at 11:18 AM (#4197990)
He's a hell of a lot better candidate than Jack Morris.


Only in a ######-up world where Bruce Sutter is a goddamned Hall of Famer.

   13. PASTE does not get put on waivers in August Posted: August 01, 2012 at 11:34 AM (#4198009)
The line starts at Dan Quisenberry, fellas.
   14. Bourbon Samurai is disturbed by bagel developments Posted: August 01, 2012 at 03:49 PM (#4198291)
I would substantially rather have Jack Morris than Lee Smith
   15. Steve Treder Posted: August 01, 2012 at 04:29 PM (#4198334)
I would substantially rather have Jack Morris than Lee Smith

Agreed, in the sense that I would also substantially rather have tuberculosis than lung cancer.
   16. Bob from Indiana Posted: August 01, 2012 at 07:24 PM (#4198481)
Keep waiting Lee.
   17. Adam Starblind Posted: August 01, 2012 at 08:55 PM (#4198528)
With the saves record so long out of his grasp, Smith seems, if not quite ordinary, not remotely like the most deserving reliever not in the hall. Maybe that's a cliche observation, I don't stop in on Lee Smith threads much.
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: August 01, 2012 at 09:34 PM (#4198555)
With the saves record so long out of his grasp, Smith seems, if not quite ordinary, not remotely like the most deserving reliever not in the hall.


No such animal exists (well, unless Mariano gets caught juicing between now and his first year on the ballot).

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