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Sunday, November 22, 2009

let’s talk about everth cabrera

stats are as follows, and the link goes through to B-ref
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as of 2008, everth cabrera was a slick fielding 21 year old second baseman playing for the colorado rockies’ low A affiliate.  in december of 2008, he was selected by the padres in the rule 5 draft, and by june he had taken over as san diego’s everyday SS. 

first, let’s talk about defense.  most prominently,there’s the errors.  as i said, he played 2B in 2008, so i guess it’s to be expected, but a .951 fielding % has got to be improved upon for him to stick as an everyday player.  the only other fielding metric that i like (RZR on the hardball times stat page) says that cabrera was average at best with regards to range.  the elevated OOZ count probably indicates that he’s got some upside to his range, but he just didn’t make enough plays to be anything more than mediocre. 

as for his bat, well, he can run. 

and to be fair, he can take a walk.  and if he can adjust to the major league level, he may be able to hit .300.  so, if he can do that last thing, a reasonable line for him might be .300/.375/.390.  so, basically a 2009 marco scutaro, or if he can add some pop, a poor man’s derek jeter.  yeah, i just said that. 

however, unlike scutaro, cabrera can run.  he led all of affiliated baseball in SBs in 2008, with 73, and in 438 plate appearances for SD in 2009, he stole 25 bases at a 76% clip.  and this was having not taken a single at bat above A+ prior to this season.  and he only had 20 or so above low A.

so, i want to start the discussion by focusing on two areas:

1) will he improve enough defensively to stick at SS?
2) how good will his bat be?  B-ref has his 2009 at a 98 OPS+, and again, before this season, he hadn’t taken an at bat in even the upper minors.

steagles Posted: November 22, 2009 at 11:15 PM | 88 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Barnaby Jones Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:42 AM (#3394184)
Kind of reminds me of Rafael Furcal. He, too, was an absolute burner that the Braves jumped from A ball. Erratic execution on defense when he was young, but he had great range and improved his consistency with time, eventually becoming a very valuable defender. Furcal even played some 2B when he was young.
   2. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:45 AM (#3394188)
LET'S TALK ABOUT CAPITAL LETTERS
   3. The District Attorney Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:46 AM (#3394190)
Let's talk about sex.
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:49 AM (#3394193)
Looks like the bat should develop. I think it will all hinge on his D.

UZR has him as -12 in 102 Gs. -6 range and -6 errors.

He'll have to improve, or hit a lot better to carry that glove.
   5. steagles Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:49 AM (#3394194)
LET'S TALK ABOUT CAPITAL LETTERS
LET'S TALK ABOUT GRAMMAR POLICE!!!



oh wait, that's not even what you're criticizing. you're criticizing syntax.

bully for you.
   6. Justin T., Director of Somethin Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:51 AM (#3394195)
So, he started the season in the bigs for a couple weeks, then went to the minors. I take it he had to be offered back to the Rox and they passed?

I have no idea what may happen with his defense. Offensively, the only thing I would add to the intro's profile of him is that it seemed like he was at the upper limit of expected infield hits last season, even for a really fast guy. Few of those disappear, ugh...

EDIT: And I really like the concept of Newsblog items like this to pass a dreadful offseason.
   7. PreservedFish Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:54 AM (#3394198)
LET'S TALK ABOUT CAPITAL LETTERS


It bothers me too. Does that make me a jerk?
   8. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:56 AM (#3394199)
EDIT: And I really like the concept of Newsblog items like this to pass a dreadful offseason.

Seconded! More please!
   9. Jick Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:56 AM (#3394200)
Geoff Young had an article on Cabrera a couple of months ago:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/something-about-everth/

With regard to his fielding, he did better than any other Padre on Tango's Fan Scouting Report. I'd rank him lower than their average, but that's based on remembering his errors as being perhaps more egregious than they really were.
   10. steagles Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:57 AM (#3394202)

So, he started the season in the bigs for a couple weeks, then went to the minors. I take it he had to be offered back to the Rox and they passed?
according to rotoworld, he had surgery on a fractured hamate on april 21. he was on the DL for about 2 months, and he had a rehab stint before resurfacing on june 19.
   11. Justin T., Director of Somethin Posted: November 23, 2009 at 02:04 AM (#3394207)
according to rotoworld, he had surgery on a fractured hamate on april 21. he was on the DL for about 2 months, and he had a rehab stint before resurfacing on june 19.

Ok. I would have figured that, but for some reason my brain processed his minors PAs last season as games played.
   12. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: November 23, 2009 at 02:06 AM (#3394208)
THE SHIFT BAR IS TOO DIFFICULT TO USE BUT I SUGGEST CAPS LOCK IT ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME THING BUT GIVES YOUR POSTS MORE "PUNCH". TO BE FAIR I HAD TO USE THE SHIFT KEY FOR THE QUOTES BUT YOU CANT WIN ALL THE TIME.
   13. J. Michael Neal Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:39 AM (#3394303)
Ease up, folks. He traded all of his capital letters to TOLAXOR for three draft picks and a consonant to be named later.
   14. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:41 AM (#3394305)
Everth is just being Everth.
   15. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:07 AM (#3394322)
Do you Everth like you would say Everest if you had a lisp?
   16. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:10 AM (#3394323)
Tinker to Everth to Chanth
   17. phatj Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:14 AM (#3394324)
I knew this was a STEAGLES post by the all-lower-case text and the subject matter before I even clicked on the link.
   18. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:17 AM (#3394326)
I'm torn between a "your mom" joke and a Salt N Pepa joke at the moment.
   19. Paul D(uda) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3394440)
Steagles, I like these posts, but would really appreciate it if you'd attempt to use better punctuation.
   20. BDC Posted: November 23, 2009 at 04:22 PM (#3394451)
To be fair, there are so many #$*&@&# Cabreras in the major leagues that I could appreciate one who uses only lower-case letters, sort of the ee cummings or bell hooks of the baseball Cabreras.
   21. steagles Posted: November 23, 2009 at 04:32 PM (#3394462)

Steagles, I like these posts, but would really appreciate it if you'd attempt to use better punctuation.
there's already another one in the queue, so like it, love it, or leave it.



also, you spelled canadia wrong.
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: November 23, 2009 at 04:41 PM (#3394476)

there's already another one in the queue, so like it, love it, or leave it.


STEAGLES (which proves you do have the shift key on your keyboard),

I think this is an excellent idea. But you're risking every one of these posts into a "why don't you capitalize?" thread, which ultimately seems like an awfully big waste of time on your part.
   23. steagles Posted: November 23, 2009 at 04:58 PM (#3394495)

I think this is an excellent idea. But you're risking every one of these posts into a "why don't you capitalize?" thread, which ultimately seems like an awfully big waste of time on your part.
if this happens, people will get stabbed in the ass, as that is the only cure for anal retentiveness so pervasive that all that comes out of a well reasoned posting are these hard little pebbles of trolling ignorance.

so, is STEAGLES gonna have to stab a #####, or can we act like we are an intelligent class of homosapiens?
   24. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:01 PM (#3394498)
if this happens, people will get stabbed in the ass

Are you related to Sam Hucheson?
   25. DCA Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:05 PM (#3394500)
we act like we are an intelligent class of homosapiens?

We can, or we can continue to not use capital letters. You're knowingly pushing peoples buttons. This is 100% on you, and it's extremely disingenuous for you to suggest otherwise.

No caps = unprofessional. It makes you look bad, and it makes BTF look bad. Articles are not comments, they ought to have a higher standard. If I ran the site, I'd take these down because of the presentation. If you want to be taken seriously, start acting like an adult.
   26. Esoteric Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:18 PM (#3394507)
so, is STEAGLES gonna have to stab a #####, or can we act like we are an intelligent class of homosapiens?
No, what will happen is someone will simply prevent your posts from going through to the front page. You have a clear choice: you can either use proper punctuation and grammar, or you can stop submitting self-penned articles.

You don't get to do both. It's insulting and repulsive-looking on the front page, as if we've been hijacked by 4chan hackers or something.

N.B. There is nothing -- NOTHING -- intelligent about forsaking grammar and punctuation. It makes you look slothful and slow-witted. Certainly not cool. So don't preach to us about acting like an "intelligent class of homosapiens" when you so willingly lower yourself by punctuating like a half-educated manchild.
   27. steagles Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:19 PM (#3394508)
If I ran the site, I'd take these down because of the presentation.
if you're in favor of such strict standards, i'd like to suggest that your posting be removed too, what with the absence of a plural possessive apostrophe.


i'm no christian, but i am a fan of that one guy who said something this one time about stones and glass houses.
   28. Mattbert Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:29 PM (#3394513)
Needlessly antagonizing your potential audience. Always a good move.
   29. Gaelan Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:40 PM (#3394521)
if you're in favor of such strict standards, i'd like to suggest that your posting be removed too, what with the absence of a plural possessive apostrophe.


I'd just like to point out that the suggestion that omitting the "plural possessive apostrophe" and writing like a five year old are equivalent is nihilitic garbage. Let me put it in plain English. Unless you are e.e. cummings your failure to capitalize tells me that you are unable to think.

No capitals=no thoughts. You can write that on a stone tablet.
   30. flournoy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:47 PM (#3394526)
I find that if someone can't be bothered to attempt to write correctly, I won't be bothered to read it.
   31. geonose Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:52 PM (#3394532)
I can't read this either; to me it's just as painful as reading anything written in ALL CAPS. I can't even read ee cummings.

Of course, reading text messages and tweets makes me nuts too. I have this dread that acceptable spellings in a decade or two will include numbers in words.
   32. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:54 PM (#3394534)
I can't read this either; to me it's just as painful as reading anything written in ALL CAPS.
Though to be fair, TOLAXOR rocks a lot.
   33. steagles Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:55 PM (#3394537)

I'd just like to point out that the suggestion that omitting the "plural possessive apostrophe" and writing like a five year old are equivalent is nihilitic garbage. Let me put it in plain English. Unless you are e.e. cummings your failure to capitalize tells me that you are unable to think.

No capitals=no thoughts. You can write that on a stone tablet.
who's to say i'm not that good? i mean, if you can't read it, i guess you'll have no problem saying it, but what if this series of postings i'm making contains the key towards unravelling the mystery of post prospect breakouts? what if, in reading this, you catch a glimpse of what i saw in edwin jackson two years ago? or shaun marcum, 4 years ago? maybe we'll be saying the same things about andrew miller in 2.5 years that i said about wandy rodriguez just that long ago?



if you're dismissing all of this, (and dismissing it all because of syntax, no less) then bully for you. you're dumber because of it.
   34. SoSH U at work Posted: November 23, 2009 at 05:58 PM (#3394540)
I think we can all safely conclude that this has produced your desired result, making this: let's talk about STEAGLES.

Congratulations.
   35. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:03 PM (#3394546)
Keep going guys. If you try a little harder, you should be able to drive him away from the site for good. And then we can go back to people ######## about how there's no original content here, and how this site is nothing but political flame wars, Repoz posting the standard pinatas, and endless rehashing of the same arguments.

No one is forcing you to read the thread. No one is forcing you to comment on the thread. If you don't like the excerpt at the top because of a lack of capitals, why not just skip on down to the next article?

And if you don't like STEAGLES writing style, I fully expect all of you doing the complaining to put the same effort used here into ripping phredbird and bbc the next time they have the audacity to post anything.
   36. flournoy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:04 PM (#3394547)
All right, well here's the bottom line: If you want to be taken seriously, you have to take yourself seriously. Your article looks like trash, so it will be treated as such.
   37. steagles Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:04 PM (#3394548)

I think we can all safely conclude that this has produced your desired result, making this: let's talk about STEAGLES.

Congratulations.
well, i am great and definitely worthy of a discussion, or maybe a dissertation, but no, that's not the desired result. the desired result is that i get some good advice for my fantasy team.


the first thread was good, this one kinda sucks, but since noone really knows anything about cabrera, i guess that's to be expected.

we'll see what happens to the third one.
   38. The District Attorney Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:06 PM (#3394554)
let's talk about STEAGLES.
He seems to be struggling in his first look at high-level pitching. This adjustment period will be big for him.
   39. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:08 PM (#3394557)
let's talk about STEAGLES.

He seems to be struggling in his first look at high-level pitching.


That last word should probably have started with a B.
   40. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:11 PM (#3394562)
we'll see what happens to the third one.
You'll go on everyone's ignore list.
   41. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:12 PM (#3394565)
Steagles is just struggling with the dominant discourse.
   42. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:15 PM (#3394567)
Everybody, time-out. TIME-OUT! A house divided cannot bridge gulfs and leads to house of cards falling on its weakest links!
   43. SoSH U at work Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:16 PM (#3394569)
It would be kind of nice if Jim or Repoz or Dan actually chimed in here. Do they want some kind of standard for presentation of original content, or is this OK? Some guidance would be nice on this, the occasional self-linkers and other types of questionable activities.
   44. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:17 PM (#3394571)
Everybody, time-out. TIME-OUT! A house divided cannot bridge gulfs and leads to house of cards falling on its weakest links!


Okay, I can deal with the "no caps" thing, but that mess just hurts my brain.
   45. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:20 PM (#3394574)
It would be kind of nice if Jim or Repoz or Dan actually chimed in here.


Since STEAGLES can't greenlight his own stuff, I think it's safe to say that one of those three (or someone else with the keys) was happy enough to approve it from the submission line. Whether that means they all agree on the format, or that they each enforce thier own submission standards, is still unclear.
   46. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:20 PM (#3394576)
Okay, I can deal with the "no caps" thing, but that mess just hurts my brain.

A blind pig in a poke only knows the value of things and not its market ineffiency.
   47. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:21 PM (#3394579)
A blind pig in a poke only knows the value of things and not its market ineffiency.


That does it. I'm going to burn down your building.
   48. Swedish Chef Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:24 PM (#3394580)
No one is forcing you to read the thread. No one is forcing you to comment on the thread. If you don't like the excerpt at the top because of a lack of capitals, why not just skip on down to the next article?

Well, it is hard to read, why not try to give the guy who submit this a hint on how he could gain some readers?

Anyway, Word happily automatically capitalizes it if given a chance.

EDIT: Just look at how Plaschke's easy-to-read paragraphing has influenced my writing!
   49. DCA Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:24 PM (#3394582)
@46. I'm pretty sure people are just green-lighting everything that's not spam. I'm not sure there's any conscious decision that "this is worth having" being made. Because most of the self-linkers would have been rejected if that were the case.
   50. bunyon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:24 PM (#3394585)
Can his D hold second base? Why was he moved to SS?


Steagles, why use commas, periods and other punctuation but not capitalize? I agree, if you're scouting and prospect evaluation is much better than what exists now, you'll eventually become a star regardless. But if it isn't, or if it is just a little better, you won't. Push the shift key once in awhile and you don't have to worry about it.
   51. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:26 PM (#3394587)
FWIW even bbc properly capitalizes when she writes for THT.
   52. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:26 PM (#3394588)
That does it. I'm going to burn down your building.

Could you give us some warning. I don't want to get caught in the resulting traffic jam.
   53. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:28 PM (#3394591)
Well, it is hard to read, why not try to give the guy who submit this a hint on how he could gain some readers?


Hard to read? It's just missing capitals, all the punctuation is there, and the spelling seems fine. It's not like it's written in the same style as the average YouTube comment, or some equivalent standard of degeneracy.
   54. SoSH U at work Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:28 PM (#3394592)
Since STEAGLES can't greenlight his own stuff, I think it's safe to say that one of those three (or someone else with the keys) was happy enough to approve it from the submission line. Whether that means they all agree on the format, or that they each enforce thier own submission standards, is still unclear.


Who knows exactly how the process works? That's why it would be nice if one of the people in charge actually opined on this and subjects such as self-linking, in part so we don't have to have each of these threads become a discussion on style or etiquette.
   55. rr Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:28 PM (#3394593)
Why was he moved to SS?



They wanted to play Eckstein at 2b, and Cabrera has a gun. I agree with the Furcal comp.

Edit: This has been one of the more bizarre meta-detours that I can recall.
   56. Lassus Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:33 PM (#3394599)
I thought this lead-in post was fine and had decent things to discuss until people started randomly and pointlessly attacking the poster.

I watched a lot of Everth Cabrera this year when I had the chance, and colloquially he seemed to be quite good at SS, and make a lot of dazzling plays. I'd agree that as a young player he probably is the test case for someone with a good range perhaps falling behind in fielding percentage because of his exuberance and attempt to make every single play and field every ball hit within a parsec of his position. Now, again, this is colloquial so it may even out - it seems from his numbers he'd have to show improvement batting to be any use at all, although I guess teams are still employing Rey Ordoñez types here and there.
   57. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:36 PM (#3394601)
FWIW even bbc properly capitalizes when she writes for THT.


I know, but she doesn't when she posts here, which is fine as far as I'm concerned. I see no problem with having people develop their own styles in either their posts or their articles - in many cases, I actually prefer these variations to the generic tone and styles.
   58. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:41 PM (#3394610)
Now, again, this is colloquial so it may even out - it seems from his numbers he'd have to show improvement batting to be any use at all, although I guess teams are still employing Rey Ordoñez types here and there.


That 0.703 OPS he threw together this year was good enough for a 98 OPS+, which already puts him above average for a SS (96 OPS+ for the NL).
   59. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:44 PM (#3394613)
I had a post I previously opted not to add, as I thought it didn't add much new. But - why let that stop me...

Cabrera: I see the (poor man's) Furcal references too, heck of a pick up for SD. Peak ~ .290/.370/.390. Will stick at short, with a slightly better than average glove. Expect to see steal attempts increase significantly next year (presuming new mgmt doesn't want him in AAA for some reason).

***
All lowers doesn't bother me (heck, I often use it when commenting from my quirky laptop). All caps does, TOLAXOR aside.

I have mixed feelings about this kind of post - enough so that I haven't submitted ones like it, though I've been tempted to from time to time. Ideally, they'd take the form of a separate column - this is what blogs are for, right - this part of the site I see as a news aggregator. YMMV.
   60. Lassus Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:46 PM (#3394619)
That 0.703 OPS he threw together this year was good enough for a 98 OPS+, which already puts him above average for a SS (96 OPS+ for the NL).

Well, yikes. I feel stupid now. I guess I thought the average-hitting SS was better than that. Thanks.
   61. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:46 PM (#3394620)
Speaking for myself I just will ignore these posts, if the author can't be bothered to follow basic grammar rules I have no reason to believe he will put any effort into sincere analysis. Steagles, do what you want but know you are willfully losing readers with such an approach and that seems silly to me.
   62. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:47 PM (#3394621)
That does it. I'm going to burn down your building.

Steagles seems like Strunk and White now, don't he?
   63. Jack Keefe Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:48 PM (#3394623)
Well now every 1 is all up set because there is this Poaster Seagulls and he can not use Capitol Letters properly and should he be band. Al as Dr Pococuranti my old Eyetalian professor at Ivy Tech Kokomo used to say De Mientkiewicz Non Currant Legs. If you have the ideas then a small Slippup every now and then in your Prouf Reading can not keep your Vidal message from the Whirled. Now every 1nce in a while there is a mistake that costs a lot like For Want of a Male the Ship was Lost or Small Oaks from Mighty Acorns Grow if you know what I mean Al. Like take when us Sox were scouting Albert Pooholes and our top Bert Dog in the field Charley "Sofa King" Wise sent a Western Onion wire to Chi. saying Expect Pooholes Prospects Brilliant and it got misspelt as Except Pooholes Prospects Brilliant and the rest is His Story.
   64. steagles Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:53 PM (#3394632)

Well, yikes. I feel stupid now. I guess I thought the average-hitting SS was better than that. Thanks.
it's not that. petco's park adjustments make cabrera's OPS+ that good. if he did that in, say, philly, he'd have around an 85 OPS+.
   65. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:56 PM (#3394635)
it's not that. petco's park adjustments make cabrera's OPS+ that good. if he did that in, say, philly, he'd have around an 85 OPS+.


Jimmy Rollins 2009: .250/.296/.423 for a 86 OPS+.
   66. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:57 PM (#3394637)
Well, yikes. I feel stupid now. I guess I thought the average-hitting SS was better than that. Thanks.


Just remember - he plays in San Diego. As STEAGLES notes, that has a huge masking effect.

For the record, that NL average SS has a 0.722 OPS to get that 96 OPS+.
   67. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: November 23, 2009 at 06:59 PM (#3394638)
I know, but she doesn't when she posts here, which is fine as far as I'm concerned. I see no problem with having people develop their own styles in either their posts or their articles - in many cases, I actually prefer these variations to the generic tone and styles.

I was actually thinking perhaps there should be a different standard for articles versus posting. I actually don't mind it in the comments but reading an entire article that's in lower case is kind of off-putting.
   68. Lassus Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:02 PM (#3394644)
That does it. I'm going to burn down your building.

Seriously, who'd even notice out there?
   69. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:08 PM (#3394647)
That does it. I'm going to burn down your building.

Seriously, who'd even notice out there?


In Midtown? It's A-Rod's favoritest neighborhood. He'd notice!
   70. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:17 PM (#3394653)
Shooty, are you telling us you're having an affair with A-Rod? Come on, we won't tell anyone. Well, except for TMZ because I need the cash, but besides them.
   71. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:20 PM (#3394658)
Shooty, are you telling us you're having an affair with A-Rod? Come on, we won't tell anyone. Well, except for TMZ because I need the cash, but besides them.


Are you crazy? There's no way that Shooty is having an affair with A-Rod. After all, the reports and rumors indicate that A-Rod is into the manly types.
   72. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:20 PM (#3394659)
Shooty, are you telling us you're having an affair with A-Rod? Come on, we won't tell anyone. Well, except for TMZ because I need the cash, but besides them.

Define affair.
   73. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:24 PM (#3394662)

Define affair.


You're running an illegal prostitution ring, and you find out that A-Rod is more interested in you than your employees. Thus you have to keep the relationship a secret so your employees don't think you 'took the'ir jawbs!"
   74. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:26 PM (#3394664)
You're running an illegal prostitution ring, and you find out that A-Rod is more interested in you than your employees. Thus you have to keep the relationship a secret so your employees don't think you 'took the'ir jawbs!"

The truth is a thousand times more horrible and involves Drew Henson. (and no, I don't really know where I'm going with this.)
   75. Lassus Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:27 PM (#3394665)
I thought they moved you out to Jersey, Shooty.

Turn off the holodeck.
   76. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:29 PM (#3394667)
I thought they moved you out to Jersey, Shooty.

Not yet. The move is still in process.
   77. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:29 PM (#3394668)
I thought they moved you out to Jersey, Shooty.


That's his job. I'm planning on burning down his home.
   78. Rants Mulliniks Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:31 PM (#3394671)
I'm with Ryan here, I have to admit I didn't even notice the lowercase-ness of the article and was wondering how e.e. cummings made it into the debate. Would I post an article like that? No, but I'm pretty anal about that kind of thing. ALL CAPS, on the other hand, sends me into a rage.
   79. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:33 PM (#3394674)
That's his job. I'm planning on burning down his home.

I'm ok with that. Just let the cats out first and save the baseball cards. Other than that....pffft.
   80. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:34 PM (#3394675)
That's his job. I'm planning on burning down his home.

OK, carry on then.
   81. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:34 PM (#3394676)
That's his job. I'm planning on burning down his home.

I'm ok with that. Just let the cats out first and save the baseball cards. Other than that....pffft.


Your girl is going to be so pissed off if she sees this post, and finds out she didn't make the list.
   82. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:40 PM (#3394685)
Your girl is going to be so pissed off if she sees this post, and finds out she didn't make the list.

She knew what she was getting into!
   83. BarrettsHiddenBall Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:44 PM (#3394691)
Sign me on to the "no attempt at capitals etc..." = "one less reader". If you're putting that much effort into your ideas, why not take a minute to ensure that your ideas are presented clearly?
   84. Lassus Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:46 PM (#3394693)
You can be sure the cats wouldn't put you that high on the list if the situation were reversed.
   85. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:50 PM (#3394697)
You can be sure the cats wouldn't put you that high on the list if the situation were reversed.


That depends. Does Shooty feed the cats, or does his girl feed them?
   86. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 07:52 PM (#3394704)
That depends. Does Shooty feed the cats, or does his girl feed them?

We take turns. We're very modern people like that. And those cats love me you cynical ########!
   87. Harold can be a fun sponge Posted: November 24, 2009 at 03:29 AM (#3395178)
it's not that. petco's park adjustments make cabrera's OPS+ that good. if he did that in, say, philly, he'd have around an 85 OPS+.

Well, that brings up an interesting question. If he played in Philly, maybe he'd hit have more like 275/360/390.

Or maybe he wouldn't, and so it makes sense for the 255/340/370 guy to play half his games in a park that cuts scoring by 20%.

I watched a lot of Everth Cabrera this year when I had the chance, and colloquially he seemed to be quite good at SS, and make a lot of dazzling plays. I'd agree that as a young player he probably is the test case for someone with a good range perhaps falling behind in fielding percentage because of his exuberance and attempt to make every single play and field every ball hit within a parsec of his position. Now, again, this is colloquial so it may even out

I had the same impression of him, and am surprised that people are writing him off based on 1000 innings of UZR as a rookie. (OK, only snapper's doing that).

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