stats are as follows, and the link goes through to B-ref
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as of 2008, everth cabrera was a slick fielding 21 year old second baseman playing for the colorado rockies’ low A affiliate. in december of 2008, he was selected by the padres in the rule 5 draft, and by june he had taken over as san diego’s everyday SS.
first, let’s talk about defense. most prominently,there’s the errors. as i said, he played 2B in 2008, so i guess it’s to be expected, but a .951 fielding % has got to be improved upon for him to stick as an everyday player. the only other fielding metric that i like (RZR on the hardball times stat page) says that cabrera was average at best with regards to range. the elevated OOZ count probably indicates that he’s got some upside to his range, but he just didn’t make enough plays to be anything more than mediocre.
as for his bat, well, he can run.
and to be fair, he can take a walk. and if he can adjust to the major league level, he may be able to hit .300. so, if he can do that last thing, a reasonable line for him might be .300/.375/.390. so, basically a 2009 marco scutaro, or if he can add some pop, a poor man’s derek jeter. yeah, i just said that.
however, unlike scutaro, cabrera can run. he led all of affiliated baseball in SBs in 2008, with 73, and in 438 plate appearances for SD in 2009, he stole 25 bases at a 76% clip. and this was having not taken a single at bat above A+ prior to this season. and he only had 20 or so above low A.
so, i want to start the discussion by focusing on two areas:
1) will he improve enough defensively to stick at SS?
2) how good will his bat be? B-ref has his 2009 at a 98 OPS+, and again, before this season, he hadn’t taken an at bat in even the upper minors.
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1. Barnaby Jones Posted: November 23, 2009 at 01:42 AM (#3394184)UZR has him as -12 in 102 Gs. -6 range and -6 errors.
He'll have to improve, or hit a lot better to carry that glove.
oh wait, that's not even what you're criticizing. you're criticizing syntax.
bully for you.
I have no idea what may happen with his defense. Offensively, the only thing I would add to the intro's profile of him is that it seemed like he was at the upper limit of expected infield hits last season, even for a really fast guy. Few of those disappear, ugh...
EDIT: And I really like the concept of Newsblog items like this to pass a dreadful offseason.
It bothers me too. Does that make me a jerk?
Seconded! More please!
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/something-about-everth/
With regard to his fielding, he did better than any other Padre on Tango's Fan Scouting Report. I'd rank him lower than their average, but that's based on remembering his errors as being perhaps more egregious than they really were.
Ok. I would have figured that, but for some reason my brain processed his minors PAs last season as games played.
also, you spelled canadia wrong.
STEAGLES (which proves you do have the shift key on your keyboard),
I think this is an excellent idea. But you're risking every one of these posts into a "why don't you capitalize?" thread, which ultimately seems like an awfully big waste of time on your part.
so, is STEAGLES gonna have to stab a #####, or can we act like we are an intelligent class of homosapiens?
Are you related to Sam Hucheson?
We can, or we can continue to not use capital letters. You're knowingly pushing peoples buttons. This is 100% on you, and it's extremely disingenuous for you to suggest otherwise.
No caps = unprofessional. It makes you look bad, and it makes BTF look bad. Articles are not comments, they ought to have a higher standard. If I ran the site, I'd take these down because of the presentation. If you want to be taken seriously, start acting like an adult.
You don't get to do both. It's insulting and repulsive-looking on the front page, as if we've been hijacked by 4chan hackers or something.
N.B. There is nothing -- NOTHING -- intelligent about forsaking grammar and punctuation. It makes you look slothful and slow-witted. Certainly not cool. So don't preach to us about acting like an "intelligent class of homosapiens" when you so willingly lower yourself by punctuating like a half-educated manchild.
i'm no christian, but i am a fan of that one guy who said something this one time about stones and glass houses.
I'd just like to point out that the suggestion that omitting the "plural possessive apostrophe" and writing like a five year old are equivalent is nihilitic garbage. Let me put it in plain English. Unless you are e.e. cummings your failure to capitalize tells me that you are unable to think.
No capitals=no thoughts. You can write that on a stone tablet.
Of course, reading text messages and tweets makes me nuts too. I have this dread that acceptable spellings in a decade or two will include numbers in words.
if you're dismissing all of this, (and dismissing it all because of syntax, no less) then bully for you. you're dumber because of it.
Congratulations.
No one is forcing you to read the thread. No one is forcing you to comment on the thread. If you don't like the excerpt at the top because of a lack of capitals, why not just skip on down to the next article?
And if you don't like STEAGLES writing style, I fully expect all of you doing the complaining to put the same effort used here into ripping phredbird and bbc the next time they have the audacity to post anything.
the first thread was good, this one kinda sucks, but since noone really knows anything about cabrera, i guess that's to be expected.
we'll see what happens to the third one.
That last word should probably have started with a B.
Okay, I can deal with the "no caps" thing, but that mess just hurts my brain.
Since STEAGLES can't greenlight his own stuff, I think it's safe to say that one of those three (or someone else with the keys) was happy enough to approve it from the submission line. Whether that means they all agree on the format, or that they each enforce thier own submission standards, is still unclear.
A blind pig in a poke only knows the value of things and not its market ineffiency.
That does it. I'm going to burn down your building.
Well, it is hard to read, why not try to give the guy who submit this a hint on how he could gain some readers?
Anyway, Word happily automatically capitalizes it if given a chance.
EDIT: Just look at how Plaschke's easy-to-read paragraphing has influenced my writing!
Steagles, why use commas, periods and other punctuation but not capitalize? I agree, if you're scouting and prospect evaluation is much better than what exists now, you'll eventually become a star regardless. But if it isn't, or if it is just a little better, you won't. Push the shift key once in awhile and you don't have to worry about it.
Could you give us some warning. I don't want to get caught in the resulting traffic jam.
Hard to read? It's just missing capitals, all the punctuation is there, and the spelling seems fine. It's not like it's written in the same style as the average YouTube comment, or some equivalent standard of degeneracy.
Who knows exactly how the process works? That's why it would be nice if one of the people in charge actually opined on this and subjects such as self-linking, in part so we don't have to have each of these threads become a discussion on style or etiquette.
They wanted to play Eckstein at 2b, and Cabrera has a gun. I agree with the Furcal comp.
Edit: This has been one of the more bizarre meta-detours that I can recall.
I watched a lot of Everth Cabrera this year when I had the chance, and colloquially he seemed to be quite good at SS, and make a lot of dazzling plays. I'd agree that as a young player he probably is the test case for someone with a good range perhaps falling behind in fielding percentage because of his exuberance and attempt to make every single play and field every ball hit within a parsec of his position. Now, again, this is colloquial so it may even out - it seems from his numbers he'd have to show improvement batting to be any use at all, although I guess teams are still employing Rey Ordoñez types here and there.
I know, but she doesn't when she posts here, which is fine as far as I'm concerned. I see no problem with having people develop their own styles in either their posts or their articles - in many cases, I actually prefer these variations to the generic tone and styles.
That 0.703 OPS he threw together this year was good enough for a 98 OPS+, which already puts him above average for a SS (96 OPS+ for the NL).
Cabrera: I see the (poor man's) Furcal references too, heck of a pick up for SD. Peak ~ .290/.370/.390. Will stick at short, with a slightly better than average glove. Expect to see steal attempts increase significantly next year (presuming new mgmt doesn't want him in AAA for some reason).
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All lowers doesn't bother me (heck, I often use it when commenting from my quirky laptop). All caps does, TOLAXOR aside.
I have mixed feelings about this kind of post - enough so that I haven't submitted ones like it, though I've been tempted to from time to time. Ideally, they'd take the form of a separate column - this is what blogs are for, right - this part of the site I see as a news aggregator. YMMV.
Well, yikes. I feel stupid now. I guess I thought the average-hitting SS was better than that. Thanks.
Steagles seems like Strunk and White now, don't he?
Jimmy Rollins 2009: .250/.296/.423 for a 86 OPS+.
Just remember - he plays in San Diego. As STEAGLES notes, that has a huge masking effect.
For the record, that NL average SS has a 0.722 OPS to get that 96 OPS+.
I was actually thinking perhaps there should be a different standard for articles versus posting. I actually don't mind it in the comments but reading an entire article that's in lower case is kind of off-putting.
Seriously, who'd even notice out there?
Seriously, who'd even notice out there?
In Midtown? It's A-Rod's favoritest neighborhood. He'd notice!
Are you crazy? There's no way that Shooty is having an affair with A-Rod. After all, the reports and rumors indicate that A-Rod is into the manly types.
Define affair.
You're running an illegal prostitution ring, and you find out that A-Rod is more interested in you than your employees. Thus you have to keep the relationship a secret so your employees don't think you 'took the'ir jawbs!"
The truth is a thousand times more horrible and involves Drew Henson. (and no, I don't really know where I'm going with this.)
Turn off the holodeck.
Not yet. The move is still in process.
That's his job. I'm planning on burning down his home.
I'm ok with that. Just let the cats out first and save the baseball cards. Other than that....pffft.
OK, carry on then.
Your girl is going to be so pissed off if she sees this post, and finds out she didn't make the list.
She knew what she was getting into!
That depends. Does Shooty feed the cats, or does his girl feed them?
We take turns. We're very modern people like that. And those cats love me you cynical ########!
Well, that brings up an interesting question. If he played in Philly, maybe he'd hit have more like 275/360/390.
Or maybe he wouldn't, and so it makes sense for the 255/340/370 guy to play half his games in a park that cuts scoring by 20%.
I watched a lot of Everth Cabrera this year when I had the chance, and colloquially he seemed to be quite good at SS, and make a lot of dazzling plays. I'd agree that as a young player he probably is the test case for someone with a good range perhaps falling behind in fielding percentage because of his exuberance and attempt to make every single play and field every ball hit within a parsec of his position. Now, again, this is colloquial so it may even out
I had the same impression of him, and am surprised that people are writing him off based on 1000 innings of UZR as a rookie. (OK, only snapper's doing that).
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