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Wednesday, July 04, 2018

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of OMNICHATTER! July 4, 2018

Red Sox / Nationals already underway (11 AM start).

Scoreboards for the Major Leagues and all minor leagues,
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villageidiom Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:22 AM | 85 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Blastin Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5705288)
I was actually at the Yankee game last night (I know you people hate that stadium but I like it), and my god the tomahawk chop is so gross in person.

Glad we shut them up.
   2. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5705290)
Nats pitcher Fedde out with an undisclosed injury in the top of the 2nd. Looked like he landed funny on his last followthrough, might have twisted a knee or ankle.
   3. villageidiom Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5705291)
Last night the Nationals had their starter throw many innings in a blowout, to help preserve the bullpen for the early game today.

They just removed their starter for injury after two pitches in the second.

Are we at the point of establishing a HOW WILL THE NATS LOSE TODAY thing?
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:49 AM (#5705293)
I'm sorry, why is there as baseball game being played before noon Eastern time?
   5. perros Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:50 AM (#5705294)
Max Muncy, who managed only five home runs in his first 96 major league games and spent all of last season in the minors, went deep two more times in the second of a three-game series against the Pittsburgh Pirates. He reached 20 home runs in only his 183rd at-bat of 2018, making him the fastest to get there in Dodgers history, according to Elias Sports Bureau research.

"I never would've thought I could hit this many home runs in this short amount of time," said Muncy, who broke the record set by Cody Bellinger in 189 at-bats last season.

Sixty-three games into his season, Muncy sports a 1.069 OPS that would be the third highest in baseball if he had enough playing time to qualify. He leads the Dodgers with 3.2 wins above replacement, according to FanGraphs metrics, even though he didn't really earn an everyday role until May.

The Dodgers hit 55 home runs in June. They already have 11 in July.

Here's to more fireworks this evening.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:51 AM (#5705295)
Last night the Nationals had their starter throw many innings in a blowout,

Wow, that's a shocking line Roark has. Really surprised it was only 98 pitches.

Why do teams refuse to carry long relievers? This was commonplace in the 70s and 80s. You've just got to have 2 guys in the pen who can give you 3+ IP.
   7. perros Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:53 AM (#5705297)
FYI snapper, the Dodgers have streaked with a .698 winning percentage since they started the season 16-26.

Not bad.
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:54 AM (#5705298)
FYI snapper, the Dodgers have streaked with a .698 winning percentage since they started the season 16-26.

Not bad.


Right. But they're still only playing .536 ball. They're not the juggernaught people thought they would be pre-season.
   9. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:54 AM (#5705299)
Last night the Nationals had their starter throw many innings in a blowout, to help preserve the bullpen for the early game today.

They just removed their starter for injury after two pitches in the second.


And brought in their long reliever, who pitched mopup last night.
   10. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:56 AM (#5705300)
I was actually at the Yankee game last night (I know you people hate that stadium but I like it), and my god the tomahawk chop is so gross in person.

What makes it ever worse is that it's so completely unoriginal, and during home games it has to be prompted by the PA system.
   11. perros Posted: July 04, 2018 at 11:56 AM (#5705302)
After going 1-5 at New York and Boston, the Mariners have won eight straight and are a half game back of the Astros.
   12. perros Posted: July 04, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5705303)
They're not the juggernaught people thought they would be pre-season.


Considering their entire rotation has been on the DL, Justin Turner missed their first 40 games, and they lost Corey Seager for the season...

Baseball is hard.
   13. villageidiom Posted: July 04, 2018 at 12:02 PM (#5705304)
during home games it has to be prompted by the PA system.
You root for at least 2 teams that prompt cheers through the PA system.

Now, of course, in your favor is that those two (or more?) teams' fans occasionally are paying attention and cheer without prompting. So there's that.
   14. perros Posted: July 04, 2018 at 12:04 PM (#5705305)
New York Yankees outfielder Brett Gardner told Newsday that he was fined "thousands of dollars" in June for violating Major League Baseball's pace-of-play rules and he's not happy about it.

The New York Post reported the total Gardner was fined was approximately $3,500.

Gardner told reporters that "nothing I say about that is going to do me any good," but he made it clear to Newsday that he isn't happy about being singled out for taking too long, in MLB's opinion, to get into the batter's box.

"My agent started taking care of it," Gardner said. "I told them don't talk to me about it. I've got more things to worry about than taking three seconds too long to get to the box. Somebody else can (throw pickoff throws to first base) 27 times in a game and waste 15 minutes of everybody's time, and I get fined thousands of dollars taking three seconds too long to get in the box."

Gardner isn't the first player to be fined for violating MLB's pace-of-play policy. Although MLB doesn't publicly disclose fines, Baltimore Orioles outfielder Adam Jones estimated in an interview with MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM last December that he was fined $50,000 last season for violating the rules.


Fresh peanuts! Come and get your peanuts!
   15. perros Posted: July 04, 2018 at 12:07 PM (#5705307)
Damn, Nats lose today and they'll be under .500 and as close to the Mets as they are the Braves.
   16. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5705309)

Considering their entire rotation has been on the DL, Justin Turner missed their first 40 games, and they lost Corey Seager for the season...


No grounds for complaints when Max Muncy has a 188 OPS+, zombie Matt Kemp has a 145, and Ross frickin Stripling has 172 ERA+. And half of the rotation was injured before they signed them.

The Dodgers have had far more inexplicable good luck the last 2 years, than they've had bad.
   17. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 12:13 PM (#5705310)
New York Yankees outfielder Brett Gardner told Newsday that he was fined "thousands of dollars" in June for violating Major League Baseball's pace-of-play rules and he's not happy about it.


Baltimore Orioles outfielder Adam Jones estimated in an interview with MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM last December that he was fined $50,000 last season for violating the rules.

Alleluia!!!

Now increase those fines by an order of magnitude, and maybe we can move the games along.
   18. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5705311)
during home games it has to be prompted by the PA system.

You root for at least 2 teams that prompt cheers through the PA system.


True, but not moronic cheers like the tomahawk chop. And Yankee Stadium crowds don't seem to need much prompting these days to make a lot of noise.

But yes, I'd like to see all teams pull the plug on pre-recorded promptings, including that mindless "Day-O" you still hear at YS.

The O's don't have much to cheer for, but even when they've been good Camden Yards has never had the spontaneous excitement of Memorial Stadium. 33rd Street had about the loudest crowds I've ever heard of the 28 stadiums I've been in, at least for non-domes. (Nothing could top the Metrodome. Just ask Whitey Herzog.)
   19. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 04, 2018 at 12:55 PM (#5705316)
Now increase those fines by an order of magnitude, and maybe we can move the games along.
Take their children away.
   20. Jay Seaver Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:02 PM (#5705317)
Eduardo Rodriguez has made it to the 6th, throwing only 78 pitches through the first five. Naturally, the offense has not rewarded this unusual efficiency.
   21. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:05 PM (#5705319)
But yes, I'd like to see all teams pull the plug on pre-recorded promptings, including that mindless "Day-O" you still hear at YS.
Also take away the children of anyone who responds to 'Day-O' or does the YMCA dance.
   22. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:09 PM (#5705320)
anyone who responds to 'Day-O' or does the YMCA dance.

....should be unceremoniously buried in an unmarked grave alongside anyone who ever sang along with "Centerfield".
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:12 PM (#5705321)
Seriously, though*, did they elaborate on what the fines were for? I thought they gave up on enforcing the 'must stay in the box' rule after about a week.

*Not that I wasn't serious about taking their children away.
   24. Jay Seaver Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:13 PM (#5705322)
A run! A weird run, but it counts!
   25. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:19 PM (#5705323)
Nice recovery by CC to leave the bases loaded.
   26. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:21 PM (#5705324)
A lot of empty seats at Nats Park today.
   27. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:31 PM (#5705326)
Also take away the children of anyone who responds to 'Day-O' or does the YMCA dance.


If you do that, what's left for the "Wave" people?


New York Yankees outfielder Brett Gardner told Newsday that he was fined "thousands of dollars" in June for violating Major League Baseball's pace-of-play rules and he's not happy about it.


I never had feelings one way or another about Gardner, but he comes across pretty whiney here. Getyer ass in the box and hit.
   28. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 04, 2018 at 01:39 PM (#5705327)
If you do that, what's left for the "Wave" people?
We have ways of dealing with them that we don't discuss in public.
   29. Jay Seaver Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:03 PM (#5705328)
Jackie Bradley Junior extra-base hits make me extra happy - he gets on a torrid streak (as he can) and this team becomes much, much better.
   30. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:04 PM (#5705329)
If you do that, what's left for the "Wave" people?


Deportation?

It is the "Mexican Wave", after all.

#soccerjoke
   31. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:07 PM (#5705330)
Kay imitates Sterling's call of Stanton's home run----hope no Yankees haters were watching.
   32. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:09 PM (#5705331)
Also take away the children of anyone who responds to 'Day-O' or does the YMCA dance.

If you do that, what's left for the "Wave" people?

Gitmo.
   33. Blastin Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:09 PM (#5705332)
I like YMCA. But dancing and singing/chanting is a bit different to me.

   34. Leroy Kincaid Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:10 PM (#5705333)
Now increase those fines by an order of magnitude, and maybe we can move the games along.


Or start calling strikes on these schmucks. Of course if they made that a rule the umps would probably not enforce it, so maybe bigger fines are the way to go.
   35. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:11 PM (#5705334)
The YES booth has been particularly amusing today.
   36. Blastin Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:12 PM (#5705335)
Kay imitates Sterling's call of Stanton's home run----hope no Yankees haters were watching.


Sterling turned 80 today. That's crazy.
   37. rconn23 Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:22 PM (#5705337)
Late career CC is something else. Keep truckin' big man.
   38. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:26 PM (#5705338)
Ho, hum, another Higashioka homer.
   39. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:27 PM (#5705339)
HIGGY GOES MIGGY!

Three hits ... three homers!!!
   40. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5705340)
Has there ever been a player whose only major league hits were homers?
   41. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:32 PM (#5705341)
Kay just noted that Alfonso Soriano's first 3 hits were homers as well ... I imagine there have been others.
   42. perros Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:33 PM (#5705342)
Sterling turned 80 today. That's crazy.


Didn't Oliver Stone make a biopic about him?
   43. perros Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:36 PM (#5705343)
I never had feelings one way or another about Gardner, but he comes across pretty whiney here. Getyer REDass in the box and hit.


FTFY

Knowing a little of his backstory and the unlikelihood of his Yankee career, I'm more than tolerant of whatever it takes to get Brett through the night.
   44. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:40 PM (#5705344)
Ugh ... Torres out of the game after his last at bat.

Seems like that hip flexor might be more of an issue than thought ...
   45. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 04, 2018 at 02:41 PM (#5705345)
Wow. Out of his 286 major league starts, Francisco Liriano has completed...3.
   46. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5705346)
Man, Javy is fun to watch.

Wow. Out of his 286 major league starts, Francisco Liriano has completed...3.


Man, I still remember watching his debut back in 2006. I think he only went five innings, but his stuff looked so good that he really did seem like he was destined to be one of the game's next top starting pitchers.
   47. Howie Menckel Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:36 PM (#5705347)
on Yankees radio man John Sterling turning 80
"When you reach Sterling’s voicemail on his flip phone, the recording greets you with, “Hi, congratulations, you have reached …” He then gives his number.

Sterling does not have an email account, nor any use for the internet. To call him old-fashioned would not be fully accurate because there is a flair to his personality. He wears a suit to every game, even though he is on radio. All his quirks are done in such a confident manner that it makes him seem younger........

He does have some modern amenities, but with old twists. He has satellite radio, but he keeps it locked on the Sinatra channel. He has mastered the use of his DVR so he can watch all the old movies he adores......

"he will sleep until around 11 a.m. before having a healthy brunch that often includes grapefruit and coffee.

A little later, he will head to the pool, where he has hung up the Speedos he used to wear for regular trunks. He still religiously puts in his 30 minutes in the pool per day."
   48. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:37 PM (#5705348)
Two hits, three warning tracks, and no runs. This isn't the 4th of July for no reason.
   49. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:43 PM (#5705349)
Judge must have been feeling the heat from Stanton. 6-2 Yanks.
   50. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5705350)
Nice profile of Sterling, Howie.
It was a different time, too, back in the ’40s and ’50s. Sterling did his best to get out of his family’s apartment as much as possible. He and his fellow 9- or 10-year-old friends would go to Yankee Stadium, the Polo Grounds or Madison Square Garden on their own.

“Isn’t that amazing?” Sterling said.

I guess it is now, but back then we didn't give it a second thought, and neither did our parents.
   51. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5705352)
The Honorable Aaron Judge presiding at Yankee Stadium has gaveled another HR to right field (#24).
   52. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:48 PM (#5705353)
Man, I still remember watching his debut back in 2006. I think he only went five innings, but his stuff looked so good that he really did seem like he was destined to be one of the game's next top starting pitchers.
Yep. As a lefty coming up with Minnesota, he looked like Johan Santana junior.
   53. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:51 PM (#5705354)
Dancin'!
   54. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:53 PM (#5705355)
SIT DOWN TOMACCO!!
   55. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:54 PM (#5705356)
Some damage in the dugout by the Rays Carlos Gomez today.
   56. manchestermets Posted: July 04, 2018 at 03:55 PM (#5705357)
Man, these Yankee announcers. "The Yankees have the second best record in baseball [no they don't] and they're only getting one player elected to the All-Star game. Waah! It's not fair, all the Yankees should be in the All-Star team! Waah!"
   57. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 04, 2018 at 04:02 PM (#5705358)
The Yankees have the second best record in baseball [no they don't] . . .

While it's true that the Yankees have the fewest losses in MLB, and lead the AL East by 1 game in the All-Important Loss Column, their .663 winning percentage is second in MLB.
   58. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 04, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5705360)
Dansby Swanson really does seem like the name of someone who participated in Pickett's Charge ...
   59. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 04:17 PM (#5705362)
Now will somebody other than the Yankees beat the ####### Red Sox?
   60. Blastin Posted: July 04, 2018 at 04:31 PM (#5705363)
The Yankees have the second best record in baseball [no they don't] . . .


Who do you think has the second best record? Not "most wins."

   61. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: July 04, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5705364)
Return-from-DL update on the Chap-bot GG3B fielding android:
Yesterday Matt Chapman played his 154th game at third base. He's now turned 54 double plays in his career.
The MLB record for 3b DPs in a season is 54 (Graig Nettles, 1971).

Chapman has 385 assists in his 154 games.
The MLB single-season record for 3b assists is 412 (also Nettles 1971). Chapman's career to date would be an all-time top-20 season, with eight games still to play.

Jeez, he's good.
   62. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: July 04, 2018 at 05:03 PM (#5705367)
Who is the color guy on the Orioles radio broadcast? He's obviously an ex-player, but he's not atrocious like so many others.
   63. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 04, 2018 at 05:03 PM (#5705368)
The MLB record for 3b DPs in a season is 54 (Graig Nettles, 1971).
. . .
The MLB single-season record for 3b assists is 412 (also Nettles 1971).

Yeah, Nettles was muchly underrated; 68 Career W.A.R.
   64. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: July 04, 2018 at 05:34 PM (#5705372)
... and that's 55, "a piece of magic" 5-4-3 per the A's radio announcer.
   65. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 04, 2018 at 05:45 PM (#5705373)
Orioles @ Phillies, left-handed Chris Davis (.155/.230/.263) at bat, and Phillies have ALL infielders to right of 2nd base, as well as 2 outfielders, leaving the left fielder to defend everything to the left of 2nd base. Did Davis make any attempt to go the other way to take advantage of all the undefended territory? Not in the AB I saw. He was entirely focused on hitting it over the 6 defenders arrayed against his pull side. Didn't work. You would think a couple days work during batting practice would be enough to allow him to make sufficient contact to get the ball past the pitcher on the left side, at least to the extent necessary to force opposing teams to deploy less extreme shifts.
   66. manchestermets Posted: July 04, 2018 at 05:57 PM (#5705374)
Who do you think has the second best record? Not "most wins."


Okay, fair point, I screwed up there. It doesn't change the overall point though - why should the team with the second best record have all the All-Stars, not the team with the best record?
   67. Walt Davis Posted: July 04, 2018 at 05:57 PM (#5705375)
Have they changed the rules for when the AS ballot is finalized? Seems to me teams used to have to nominate candidates before the season began. The Yanks do have Torres on the ballot even though he didn't debut until game #20 which is something I don't recall ever seeing before. Andujar is also on the ballot. They also put Stanton at DH so Hicks could join their OF candidates. Tyler Austin is their 1B by the way.
   68. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 04, 2018 at 06:08 PM (#5705376)
BREAKING NEWS: Gleyber Torres to DL with hip strain. MRI showed a bit more than they had thought, apparently, but reportedly it should be a short stay, with Torres back after All-Star break.
   69. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: July 04, 2018 at 06:37 PM (#5705380)
62 - Isn’t that Jim Palmer?

67 - I suspect it’s easiser to wait a bit longer now without the need to print ballots. You can literally make changes minutes before the voting goes live so I’d assume however the names get on the list can be done later just due to logistics.
   70. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: July 04, 2018 at 06:40 PM (#5705381)
Who is the color guy on the Orioles radio broadcast?

It must be Gregg Olson, based on comments by Joe Angel.
   71. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 04, 2018 at 07:41 PM (#5705383)
I would just walk Segura. If anyone can do damage, it is Segura.

Segura too eager.

   72. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 04, 2018 at 07:44 PM (#5705384)
Well. that was good for the A's ! Let's go Rangers !
   73. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: July 04, 2018 at 07:59 PM (#5705387)
Red Sox with their 31st road win. Played 48 road games already. Still trailing NY in Andy's "all important loss column" by 1, but I think at this stage I'd rather have the 10! additional road games completed and more importantly the 8! additional road wins. Needless to say quality of competition will play some part here, but 8 extra road wins in 10 games is a big advantage right now.

Of course Houston doing even better on the road at 31-14!

Boston and NY continue to just beat up the "good" teams from other divisions.

In other news, nice to see Ohtani get a couple of hits and Cole Calhoun got 3 to boost his average to .180! Not sure why, but I like Calhoun and it makes me kind of sad that he is really struggling this year.
   74. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 08:25 PM (#5705393)
Orioles @ Phillies, left-handed Chris Davis (.155/.230/.263) at bat, and Phillies have ALL infielders to right of 2nd base, as well as 2 outfielders, leaving the left fielder to defend everything to the left of 2nd base. Did Davis make any attempt to go the other way to take advantage of all the undefended territory? Not in the AB I saw. He was entirely focused on hitting it over the 6 defenders arrayed against his pull side. Didn't work. You would think a couple days work during batting practice would be enough to allow him to make sufficient contact to get the ball past the pitcher on the left side, at least to the extent necessary to force opposing teams to deploy less extreme shifts.

Wait, you're just noticing this about Chris Davis, the dumbest hitter ever to walk the Earth?

(You think I'm exaggerating? I dare you to name a dumber one.)

(Yeah, I didn't think so.)

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Red Sox with their 31st road win. Played 48 road games already. Still trailing NY in Andy's "all important loss column" by 1,

FTR, that's Clapper's cliche, not mine.

but I think at this stage I'd rather have the 10! additional road games completed and more importantly the 8! additional road wins. Needless to say quality of competition will play some part here, but 8 extra road wins in 10 games is a big advantage right now.

Yes, but the Red Sox will be facing a brutal September schedule, with 3 games each against the Braves in Atlanta, the Astros in Fenway,** and the Indians in Cleveland, and home-and-home 3 game series against the Yankees. I think it's going to come down to which team wins the free agent sweepstakes before the trading deadline, because at this point neither of them have more than 2 starters who are all that great.

** Just try not to remember that 2017 DS. I still think Houston's the favorite to go all the way.
   75. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 08:29 PM (#5705394)
Who is the color guy on the Orioles radio broadcast? He's obviously an ex-player, but he's not atrocious like so many others.

62 - Isn’t that Jim Palmer?

Palmer does TV commentary, not radio. He's one of the best color men I've ever heard.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

It must be Gregg Olson, based on comments by Joe Angel.

Could be, but unless it's a one-off, it's more likely Ben McDonald.
   76. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: July 04, 2018 at 09:00 PM (#5705397)
Yes, but the Red Sox will be facing a brutal September schedule


But when you're 8 games ahead it should be ok!

Jokes aside, as I mentioned above quality of competition plays a roll in all this.

NY has 2 starters that are great? I see Severino there and you think CC will be effective/healthy all season long?? I'd much rather have the Sox SP going forward. Severino is a beast though.
   77. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 04, 2018 at 09:20 PM (#5705398)
Ok, so sometimes I really don't like Stanton and Judge, because they basically look like idiot Hunter Pence at bat.

It just hurts, when they strike out like total morons.

The homeruns are ok, but on the whole, this is not and never should be Yankee Baseball.

Gardner, Hicks and Bird are my true Yankees !

And BTW, Go Giants !!!
   78. Walt Davis Posted: July 04, 2018 at 09:29 PM (#5705399)
I dare you to name a dumber one.

I don't see Davis enough to comment but Shawon Dunston was a numbskull as a hitter. As I've mentioned many times before, there were times when he would literally jump at a ball, swinging with his feet off the ground. I assume somebody tried to teach him a bit about the science of hitting and taking the occasional pitch but he clearly never learned it.

Jokes aside, as I mentioned above quality of competition plays a roll in all this.

FWIW, b-r's SRS which takes quality of competition into account has them both at 1.5, woefully behind the Astros' 2.0. The Cubs lead the NL at 1.1 while the AL is absurdly top-heavy by this measure with the #4 team being Cleveland at 0.6. I can't find historical SRS, I suppose its use is really in-season, so I have no idea if 2.0 is as astronomical (pun!) as I think.
   79. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 04, 2018 at 09:31 PM (#5705400)
WHEN WILL KELBY TOMLINSON HOMER AGAIN ?
   80. Walt Davis Posted: July 04, 2018 at 09:43 PM (#5705401)
By the way, the Astros are currently on pace for 104 wins ... and they are already 6 games under pythag ... so about 109 if they perform to pythag the rest of the year. I thought the 107 pythag wins of the 2016 Cubs was pretty crazy, these guys are on pace for 115.

The Yanks and Sox are both 2 games over their pythag.

That said, the AL Central is so awful this year (playing under 400 outside of their division, even Cleveland hasn't been anything special) that you really need to correct for how many games a team has played against the ALC in trying to make any determination on their true talent. This appears to be part of Seattle's secret as they have 29 games against the ALC (21-8) while the Astros have just 19 (Yanks and Sox just 13 and 12).

ALC: 395 vs ALE, 327 vs ALW, 339 vs NLC
CLE: 4-6 vs ALE, 9-14 vs ALW, 7-4 vs NLC (and they are 6-2 against Cubs and Brewers so they'll do well here)
   81. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 10:21 PM (#5705406)
NY has 2 starters that are great? I see Severino there and you think CC will be effective/healthy all season long?? I'd much rather have the Sox SP going forward. Severino is a beast though.

Head-to-head I like Severino over Sale and Sabathia over any other Red Sox starter. Probably a healthy Tanaka, too.

You make a fair point about Sabathia's staying power, but then you might also want to check out Sale's 2017 record for August through the postseason. 2.37 through the end of July, 4.09 for August/September, and 8.38 in the DS. At this point last year he'd thrown 120 innings, and so far this year he's already up to 116.

And in a short playoff, both the Astros and the Indians' top 3 starters match up quite well against either of those AL East bullies. Of course the Indians' and Astros' bullpens are less than sterling against both of those teams, and the Indians are pretty much a 2 man team on offense.

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FWIW, b-r's SRS which takes quality of competition into account has them both at 1.5, woefully behind the Astros' 2.0. The Cubs lead the NL at 1.1 while the AL is absurdly top-heavy by this measure with the #4 team being Cleveland at 0.6. I can't find historical SRS, I suppose its use is really in-season, so I have no idea if 2.0 is as astronomical (pun!) as I think.

You can find historical SRS by going to BB-Ref's detailed standings and then just changing the year in the URL. FWIW the 1927 Yankees had a 2.1, the 1939 Yankees had a 2.4, and the 1998 Yankees had a 1.8, so the Astros current 2.0 is in pretty rarefied air. Even the 116-36 1906 Cubs posted but a 1.8, so there doesn't seem to be much grade inflation going on.
   82. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2018 at 10:26 PM (#5705407)
Small sample size, but IMO here's the Yankees' most impressive numbers, their record against the best teams they've met to date:

vs. Boston 5-4
vs. Cleveland 3-0
vs. Houston 5-2
vs. Seattle 3-0
vs. Atlanta 2-1
vs. Phillies 2-1

Total 20-8. They've been consistently rising to the level of their competition.

EDIT: FTR the Red Sox are 12-11 against those same teams plus the Yankees. They've yet to face the Indians or Phillies.
   83. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 05, 2018 at 07:25 AM (#5705421)
Just to break up the Yankee erectionfest, the Phillies are 10 games over .500 for the first time since the end of 2011. They are 4 games over their Pythag. Is it the brilliance of Gabe Kapler? I'll go with luck, they are 18-7 in one run games.

They don't hit for average, have modest power, but are #2 in walks, yielding a 9th place in runs scored in a cozy ballpark.

The starting pitching has been quite good, as Nola is tearing it up, Eflin (+137) has been excellent (but is it sustainable, probably not), Arrieta has been good, with Velasquez and Pivetta being all over the place with respect to good starts or bad starts. The bullpen has been wildly inconsistent. They've been lights out the last 4 games after getting hammered the night prior. I'm not sold on the talent of the young position players -- they look like major leaguers but more like lower tier starters or high quality bench players. I'm having trouble seeing stardom for any of them.

I'm thinking that there will be a slow drift back to .500 for the rest of the season.
   84. will Posted: July 05, 2018 at 11:05 AM (#5705493)
As to Phillies, I hope Edmundo is too pessimistic. The schedule will be easier for the balance of the season. I think it is generally true that with mid-season trades, below-average teams will weaken, as they trade for prospects. The Phillies can pick up a third-baseman and help for the pitching staff. If they just keep winning at their current pace, it would be 90/91 wins, and the second wild-card spot. That would be a great season.
   85. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 11:09 AM (#5705496)
The Phillies can pick up a third-baseman and help for the pitching staff. If they just keep winning at their current pace, it would be 90/91 wins, and the second wild-card spot. That would be a great season.

I think this undersells them badly. They're 1.5 games out of first, and are already on a 91 win pace.

They should go get Machado. They can catch the Braves.

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