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Sunday, May 17, 2009

LoHud Yankees Blog: The ethics of cheering

Man, what a shot. Yankees win, the Yankees win. Everybody goes home happy.

But did that moment give you pause, if only for a split second? Be honest. I’d be curious to hear what you think because I sure can’t come up with an answer.

No.

Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: May 17, 2009 at 03:48 AM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JRVJ (formerly Delta Socrates) Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:27 AM (#3182004)
Gotta agree with Larry.

I guess on some levels my perception of professional athletes (other than, to an extent, my countryman Mariano) is very different from someone who sees them every day and up close.

To me, professional athletes are like rock stars or beautiful actresses in that they are simply not in my world, and I don't judge them by my standards (i.e., I don't care how many kids Mick Jagger has sired. He's Mick Jagger. And Cate Blanchett may not actually be Galadriel, but as far as I'm concerned, her feet never quite touch the ground).


If Pete Abraham wants to measure Alex Rodriguez by his $75K a year standards (or $100K a year standards or whatever), his Springsteen obsession and his tailgating Patriots fandom, be my guest, but I couldn't care less.
   2. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:31 AM (#3182005)
Abraham just has an obsession with A-Rod. Was this ever asked when Pettitte pitched a good game last year or this year?

For this HR, it didn't even enter my mind until I read this ####.
   3. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:37 AM (#3182007)
Sure, I'd cheer for Rodriguez.

"B**CH T*TS!!!" is a cheer, right?
   4. Cowboy Popup Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:38 AM (#3182009)
Nope.
   5. Tripon Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:45 AM (#3182011)
I would be more annoyed with the "THE YANKEES WIN. THE YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANKESS WIN" cheer that Sterling does after every Yankees win.

Doesn't that get tiring after awhile?
   6. Cowboy Popup Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:51 AM (#3182012)
Doesn't that get tiring after awhile?

Oh yeah.
   7. Repoz Posted: May 17, 2009 at 05:10 AM (#3182017)
Wouldn't you worry more about the fact that over 20 ballplayers are on target for 40+ HR seasons...including fuggin' Branded Inge? What is the clean reasoning behind this?

If you just swallow the sweet "Live Ball II" elixir...you don't worry about such did he/didn't he nonsense.

Merely glorious speed bumps on the road to freedom from the Bill Meltons of the world.
   8. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: May 17, 2009 at 05:19 AM (#3182018)
Wouldn't you worry more about the fact that over 20 ballplayers are on target for 40+ HR seasons...including fuggin' Branded Inge? What is the clean reasoning behind this?


I'more worried about the guy who is on a 0 HR pace, myself.
   9. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: May 17, 2009 at 05:30 AM (#3182022)
I'more worried about the guy who is on a 0 HR pace, myself.

Don't worry. I'm sure Figgins will turn it around.
   10. Tripon Posted: May 17, 2009 at 05:45 AM (#3182030)
Juan Pierre will never homer again.
   11. Good cripple hitter Posted: May 17, 2009 at 06:03 AM (#3182035)
I'more worried about the guy who is on a 0 HR pace, myself.

I've had just about enough of your Bowie Kuhn obsession.
   12. TE Posted: May 17, 2009 at 07:32 AM (#3182048)
Abraham just has an obsession with A-Rod. Was this ever asked when Pettitte pitched a good game last year or this year?


I had the same thought when I read the entry, and no, of course not. The first example that came to mind was the gem Pettitte pitched on July 20, 8 IP, 1 ER, 9 K, 4 hits and 0 BB, and Abraham had nothing but praise for his performance.
   13. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 17, 2009 at 10:24 AM (#3182056)
I would be more annoyed with the "THE YANKEES WIN. THE YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANKESS WIN" cheer that Sterling does after every Yankees win.

Doesn't that get tiring after awhile?


That's an outright lie. You should be ashamed.

Because what that horse's ass actually bleats is "THHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YANKEES WIN."
   14. Lassus Posted: May 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM (#3182061)
I really thought this was going to be about how A-Rod was getting the shitt booed out of him until that HR, after which everyone loved him.
   15. tfbg9 Posted: May 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM (#3182068)
No.


Larry's a good guy and all, but it seems 99% of his baseball opinions are Yankee-fan-convienent baseball opinions.
   16. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: May 17, 2009 at 01:02 PM (#3182074)
Larry's a good guy and all, but it seems 99% of his baseball opinions are Yankee-fan-convienent baseball opinions.
This was unnecessary.
   17. PJ Martinez Posted: May 17, 2009 at 01:48 PM (#3182082)
The writer's favorite teams are the Yankees and the Patriots? He really goes for the villains, doesn't he?
   18. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: May 17, 2009 at 02:00 PM (#3182089)
The writer's favorite teams are the Yankees and the Patriots? He really goes for the villains, doesn't he?
I believe that Peter is from Connecticut, so it makes sense.
   19. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: May 17, 2009 at 02:19 PM (#3182094)
I believe that Peter is from Connecticut, so it makes sense.


He's the anti-me. I like the Sox and Giants.
   20. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: May 17, 2009 at 03:08 PM (#3182123)
He's the anti-me. I like the Sox and Giants.


This was probably the most surprising thing I learned when I lived in Boston that terrible year. There are a number of GGCs who root for this combo. I'm not sure how this happened.
   21. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: May 17, 2009 at 03:23 PM (#3182131)
This was probably the most surprising thing I learned when I lived in Boston that terrible year. There are a number of GGCs who root for this combo. I'm not sure how this happened.

It happpens everywhere, because (a) not everyone who lives in a city is from that city to begin with, and there's no moral obligation to transfer your allegiances every time you move; and (b) some teams that you've loved over the years can wind up being hijacked by such loathsome people that it makes rooting for them almost impossible. Right here in the DC-Baltimore area you've got two prime examples of that, but they're not the only ones.
   22. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:17 PM (#3182150)
What struck me as most strange about this was that Pete Abe seems to answer the question of whether I should have doubts himself with this:

I’m pretty sure that every time somebody like [Rodney] Harrison, or A-Rod or Manny Ramirez gets caught, there are 50 other athletes who are glad it wasn’t them.


So why should I feel bad about A-Rod's homer? Maybe Breslow is/was on the juice. Or Morneau, without whom the Yankees would have won in regulation. If you really believe (and I'm not sure I do, but I am sure that Abraham does) that a huge number of players are using PEDs, I don't see the purpose of getting yourself worked up about one particular player, except that he's A-Rod and getting worked up about him is what people do.
   23. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:17 PM (#3182151)
This was probably the most surprising thing I learned when I lived in Boston that terrible year. There are a number of GGCs who root for this combo. I'm not sure how this happened.


My dad grew up liking both. The Pats didn't exist until he was 23. That and I live in CT, which is disputed territory. But I believe that Boston get's it share of Giants games on FOX. As you attested to, they have a fanbase up there.

My favorite Pats teams were the ones from the late 70s with Grogan, Hawg Hannah, Sam Bam Cunningham, et al. But then the Giants started getting relevant again soon after that era and I think my dad jumped back on their bandwagon.
   24. Bob Dernier Cri Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:25 PM (#3182156)
I take it there's nobody in Boston still bitter about the Redskins moving away? :)
   25. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:38 PM (#3182162)
There are a number of GGCs
That's a truly horrifying thought.
   26. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder. Posted: May 17, 2009 at 04:42 PM (#3182168)
If you are going to insult Larry about his Yankee fanboyism the correct term is "myopic"
   27. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 17, 2009 at 05:09 PM (#3182183)
This was probably the most surprising thing I learned when I lived in Boston that terrible year. There are a number of GGCs who root for this combo. I'm not sure how this happened.

There are a ton of Bostonian/New Englanders over the age of 60 who are NFL Giants fans. Simple enough, that was the closest team when they were growing up.
   28. Petuniaviles Posted: May 17, 2009 at 06:15 PM (#3182219)
My dad grew up a Sox/Dolphins fan in CT because he hated the Pats (and they perpetually stunk), didn't care to root for a NY team, and one of the local radio stations for some reason carried all the 'Fins games, so that's what he got.
   29. Shock Posted: May 17, 2009 at 06:23 PM (#3182222)


"B**CH T*TS!!!" is a cheer, right?


How do you pronounce asterisk?
   30. Repoz Posted: May 17, 2009 at 06:55 PM (#3182232)
There are a number of GGCs

That's a truly horrifying thought.


They used to be called the Weathermen.

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