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Lonnie Baseball hit three home runs on Monday night | MLB.com

Lonnie Baseball has a big day.

Jim Furtado Posted: June 10, 2014 at 06:17 AM | 57 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Depressoteric Posted: June 10, 2014 at 09:40 AM (#4722389)
I'll take Lonnie Baseball over Johnny Football any day.
   2. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 10, 2014 at 09:48 AM (#4722397)
I like those 2nd level nicknames (riffing off Donnie Baseball to get Lonnie Baseball, or building off the existing ARod to get K-Rod).
What are some other ones?
Which came first "Big Poison" or "Little Poison"?
(In hockey they have "Rocket" and "Pocket Rocket", and "Golden Jet" and "Golden Brett".)
   3. SoCalDemon Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:02 AM (#4722415)
Around this time, Paul and Lloyd got the nicknames that would stick with them for the rest of their careers. The origin of the names has never been pinned down definitively, but most explanations attribute them to the distinctive pronunciation of fans in New York City. Clifton Blue Parker says in Big Poison and Little Poison that in a game at Brooklyn's Ebbets Field, a Dodgers fan described ruefully how the Pirates' "Big Person" and "Little Person" were hurting the hometown team that day. In "Brooklynese," the names came out sounding like Big Poison and Little Poison. Another version credits the operator of a newspaper kiosk, who told a newspaperman he was at Ebbets Field to watch "the Big Person and Little Person on the Pittsburghs" play, a comment that the journalist printed in the newspaper. Parker says Lloyd credited a New York sportswriter with a Brooklyn accent.


ANother version is basically the same thing, but with an Italian accent. So evidently the nicknames came at the same time...and Lloyd Waner was really small.

Though b-ref doesn't really support this. Paul is listed as 5'8", 153, and Lloyd is listed as 5'9", 150, so both pretty small guys, even back in the day, and pretty much the same size.

Paul Waner SABR

   4. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM (#4722427)
There was Big Jeff Pfeffer, whose name was Francis Xavier but got nicknamed "Big Jeff" because of his resemblance to boxer James J. Jeffries. And his brother Edward was also nicknamed "Jeff" after him, but not "Big Jeff" because he was not as big.
   5. haggard Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM (#4722430)
There was Hit Man and Hit Dog. The best was Stan the Man Unusual
   6. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:30 AM (#4722440)
I think Dan Ford's son played in the early 80's and was known as Grunge Dan.
   7. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:33 AM (#4722445)
On a more serious not, there was the Sarge and the Corporal.
   8. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:38 AM (#4722448)
Stan the man and Pujols ad El Hombre.
   9. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:42 AM (#4722451)
On a more serious not, there was the Sarge and the Corporal.


I hadn't heard the term "the Corporal". I always heard Gary Matthews Jr. called "Little Sarge".
   10. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4722456)
Maybe it's just me but the only Lonnies I know of have been baseball players. It's an odd name in that it seems like it should be a common one, but, alas, how many Lonnies do you know?

Cleveland watchers: His numbers are pretty great so far. Do you get the sense that Lonnie Baseball is for real?
   11. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:47 AM (#4722458)
I like those 2nd level nicknames (riffing off Donnie Baseball to get Lonnie Baseball

Considering it's Cleveland, I think they're riffing on Johnny Football as [1] notes.
   12. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:49 AM (#4722460)
My friends and I used to call Mo Vaughn "The Big Shirt", but I think that was just us.
   13. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:08 AM (#4722477)
Harry "The Cat" Brecheen & Harvey "The Kitten" Haddix come to mind.
   14. Austin Kearns: The Spy Who Shagged Flies Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:13 AM (#4722481)
I believe back in the day they used to call Jim Palmer "Cy Old", and Storm Davis "Cy Clone" because he had a similar pitching style.
   15. donlock Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:16 AM (#4722482)
In basketball the New Jersey Nets had Julius "the Doctor/Dr. J" Erving. When he left town, he was replaced in the lineup by Jan "the Patient" Van Breda Koff.
   16. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4722484)
Wasn't Dwight Gooden also known as "Dr. K"? I presume that derived from Dr. J. Was that true of his "Doc" nickname as well?

(IIRC, Larry Kenon, who played with Doc on the Nets in the mid-'70s, was "Dr. K" as well.)





Edit: Presumably, on second thought, "Doc" just came from "Dr. K," assuming the former didn't predate the latter.
   17. 'Spos lost the handle trying to make the transfer Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:27 AM (#4722492)
Andrés Galarraga went from being "El Gran Gato" [for anglos at least, it was a backtranslation] to "Le Grand Gateau".
   18. just plain joe Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:42 AM (#4722507)
Maybe it's just me but the only Lonnies I know of have been baseball players. It's an odd name in that it seems like it should be a common one, but, alas, how many Lonnies do you know?


There is the singer/guitarist Lonnie Mack; he is well into his seventies but is still making music. Then there is Loni Anderson, but that isn't quite the same name.
   19. Gary Truth Serum Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:46 AM (#4722512)
I believe back in the day they used to call Jim Palmer "Cy Old", and Storm Davis "Cy Clone" because he had a similar pitching style.

The also had Mike Flanagan as "Cy Young", Steve Stone as "Cy Present" and Scott McGregor as "Cy Future".
   20. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:49 AM (#4722515)
My friends and I used to call Mo Vaughn "The Big Shirt", but I think that was just us.

Thanks to Primer, I can't help but read that name as Moo Vaughn any more.
   21. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 10, 2014 at 11:55 AM (#4722520)
I like those 2nd level nicknames (riffing off Donnie Baseball to get Lonnie Baseball

Considering it's Cleveland, I think they're riffing on Johnny Football as [1] notes.


Huh. I didn't even consider that. I like to think the Cleveland baseball fans are playing off the established baseball nickname instead of basing it off some flash-in-the-pan other-sport guy.
   22. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 12:40 PM (#4722544)
Maybe it's just me but the only Lonnies I know of have been baseball players. It's an odd name in that it seems like it should be a common one, but, alas, how many Lonnies do you know?


I want to 2nd grade with a Lonnie. That means, looking back, that something like 10 percent of my class (it was very small; I can't remember if I was the 10th or 11th pupil) was named Lonnie.

Lonnie Wright played for the Denver teams in the AFL & ABA.

Lonnie Shelton played in the NBA.

   23. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: June 10, 2014 at 12:42 PM (#4722547)
I tried to start "Rondo" for Ryan Howard, after "Hondo" for Frank Howard, but soon realized I don't have a widely read newspaper column.
   24. Bunny Vincennes Posted: June 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM (#4722549)
Lon Warneke had a pretty decent mlb career.
   25. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM (#4722554)
Ah, yes -- "The Arkansas Hummingbird." IIRC, he went on to umpire.
   26. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4722556)
And speaking of the entertainment field, I'd be remiss not to mention Lon Chaney.
   27. TerpNats Posted: June 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM (#4722558)
And Bay Area fans of course remember broadcaster Lon Simmons.
   28. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 01:02 PM (#4722567)
Good lord -- I've neglected to mention Lonnie Donegan.
   29. just plain joe Posted: June 10, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4722578)
And speaking of the entertainment field, I'd be remiss not to mention Lon Chaney.


Well, I saw Lon Chaney walking with the Queen
Doing the werewolves of London
I saw Lon Chaney, Jr. walking with the Queen
Doing the werewolves of London


RIP, Warren Zevon
   30. cmd600 Posted: June 10, 2014 at 01:41 PM (#4722590)
Considering it's Cleveland, I think they're riffing on Johnny Football as [1] notes.


It's been Lonnie Baseball since his first cup of coffee three years ago.
   31. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 01:44 PM (#4722591)
There was Big Jeff Pfeffer, whose name was Francis Xavier but got nicknamed "Big Jeff" because of his resemblance to boxer James J. Jeffries.


Never heard that before but I looked him up. I can see it.

Nothing wrong with a healthy, strapping lad looking like Big Jeff. There's a touch of tragedy when you can see the same resemblance in his great-granddaughter Kelsey.
   32. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 01:51 PM (#4722599)
Well, I saw Lon Chaney walking with the Queen
Doing the werewolves of London
I saw Lon Chaney, Jr. walking with the Queen
Doing the werewolves of London


I have a live recording of Zevon where he sings those verses, then follows with, "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving, hysterical, naked...and they were doing the werewolves of London."

Man, I miss Warren Zevon.
   33. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 02:07 PM (#4722616)
I went to grade school with a guy named Lonnie. I remember thinking at the time that it sounded like a nickname and not a real name. ("Lonald"?)
   34. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 02:10 PM (#4722620)
I just checked his Bref page and they give the pronunciation of his last name with the accent on the second sy-LAB-ul. "\chiz-IN-hall\"

That's strange--I always assumed it was CHIZ-en-hall
   35. Accent Shallow Posted: June 10, 2014 at 02:16 PM (#4722624)
I went to grade school with a guy named Lonnie. I remember thinking at the time that it sounded like a nickname and not a real name. ("Lonald"?)

Heh. Concur.
   36. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4722652)
I just checked his Bref page and they give the pronunciation of his last name with the accent on the second sy-LAB-ul. "\chiz-IN-hall\"

That's strange--I always assumed it was CHIZ-en-hall


I have no idea what the difference between those two pronunciations is.
   37. Moeball Posted: June 10, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4722696)
Man, I miss Warren Zevon


His hair was perfect!
   38. TerpNats Posted: June 10, 2014 at 03:34 PM (#4722702)
Man, I miss Warren Zevon
Apparently, so does the Werewerth of Washington.
   39. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 03:42 PM (#4722710)
Man, I miss Warren Zevon
His hair was perfect!

if he were REALLY that seminal, he would have died of a drug overdose instead of something boring like cancer
   40. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: June 10, 2014 at 03:49 PM (#4722717)
I have no idea what the difference between those two pronunciations is.

A different syllable is accented.
   41. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 03:59 PM (#4722730)
A different syllable is accented.

But, all three syllables seems pretty equally accented in the most obvious pronunciation?
   42. Random Transaction Generator Posted: June 10, 2014 at 04:01 PM (#4722733)
I have no idea what the difference between those two pronunciations is.

A different syllable is accented.


Right, but like #36 says, I can't wrap my head around the difference when I say it out loud.
When I try to put the emphasis on the second syllable, all I end up doing is making it sound very exaggerated, which doesn't sound natural at all.
I probably have to hear someone say it the "right" way for my brain to figure it out.
   43. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: June 10, 2014 at 04:19 PM (#4722757)
I thought the root of Lonnie is Lonstead. I can see why you'd want a nickname for that, unless you were richer than Thurston Howell III.
   44. Walt Davis Posted: June 10, 2014 at 04:46 PM (#4722783)
My friends and I used to call Mo Vaughn "The Big Shirt", but I think that was just us.

Mets fans took it up but dropped the "r".
   45. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 04:56 PM (#4722794)
I thought the root of Lonnie is Lonstead.

several websites claim is was originally a nickname for Alonso
   46. JJ1986 Posted: June 10, 2014 at 05:04 PM (#4722805)
In my head, the listed pronunciation is Chis-enhall, while the more obvious one is Chisen-hall. None of the syllables are really accented in either.
   47. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 05:17 PM (#4722814)
In my head, the listed pronunciation is Chis-enhall, while the more obvious one is Chisen-hall. None of the syllables are really accented in either.

Yeah, I'd pronounce those two exactly the same. Maybe it's a New York thing.
   48. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 10, 2014 at 05:31 PM (#4722830)
When I see Chis-enhall I think the 'i' is pronounced as it is in "miss" while in Chisen-hall, the 'i' would be pronounced as it is in wise.
   49. Honkie Kong Posted: June 10, 2014 at 07:28 PM (#4722896)
Was it Chisenhall and Buchholz who got into trouble before the draft by selling school equipment?
   50. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 08:09 PM (#4722930)
Was it Chisenhall and Buchholz who got into trouble before the draft by selling school equipment?

Chisenhall was thrown out of South Carolina in his freshman year for stealing electronic equipment from dorm rooms
   51. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 10, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4722935)
story

That was in 2007--he would have been a senior the year that the Gamecocks won the first of their back-to-backs. (Except he probably would have left before then to turn pro)
   52. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 10, 2014 at 08:25 PM (#4722947)
Guy I play softball with sometimes is named Lon. Super cool guy.
I sometimes call him "Lonster the Monster" but I don't think that's his real name.

Also, another guitar player - blues singer Lonnie Johnson.
   53. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 10, 2014 at 08:32 PM (#4722953)
It's been Lonnie Baseball since his first cup of coffee three years ago.

You have to earn a nickname like that.
   54. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: June 10, 2014 at 10:00 PM (#4722993)
Rapper Common (Sense) was born Lonnie Lynn Jr.

Lonnie Lynn Sr. played in the ABA.

Lonnie Youngblood is a saxophonist who recorded this classic. (If you get past the corny intro, he burns that isht up.)
   55. Barnaby Jones Posted: June 11, 2014 at 06:55 AM (#4723105)
I have no idea what the difference between those two pronunciations is.


The stress is on different syllables. A good example of these differences is the British vs. American pronunciation of "capillary." Brits say cuh-PIL-luhr-y. Americans say CA-puh-lair-y

link to audio

CHIZ-en-hall would be like the American stress, and chiz-EN-hall would be like the British.
   56. Barnaby Jones Posted: June 11, 2014 at 06:58 AM (#4723106)
Anyway, there seems to be some disagreement:

https://twitter.com/tribeinsider/status/177088706929373185

And that's the pronunciation used by reporters: (video link)

BBRef is probably wrong.
   57. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: June 11, 2014 at 08:44 AM (#4723126)
Maybe it's just me but the only Lonnies I know of have been baseball players. It's an odd name in that it seems like it should be a common one, but, alas, how many Lonnies do you know?

List of Lonnies

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