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Thursday, May 11, 2017

Looking Back At The 1992 Expansion Draft (Part 1)

Dave Dombrowski and Bob Gebhard get in on the ground floor. Too bad the elevators hadn’t been installed yet.

Bote Man Posted: May 11, 2017 at 08:34 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 11, 2017 at 10:11 PM (#5453923)
They had the advantage of free agency, but it always struck me that those teams did extraordinarily well in their expansion drafts. They got more than a few gems, landing Jeff Conine, Eric Young, Joe Girardi, Carl Everett, Vinny Castilla, Brad Ausmus, and a potential HOFer in Trevor Hoffman.
   2. JohnQ Posted: May 11, 2017 at 10:16 PM (#5453927)
I forgot that the Marlins selected Trevor Hoffman in that draft. Then they traded Trevor Hoffman for Gary Sheffield which was a good traded but they got rid of Sheffield in the Piazza deal during the fire sale of 1998.

I was always surprised that the Royals left Jeff Conine unprotected in that draft. Who the heck were the 1992/93 Royals protecting? And then the Royals reacquired him during the '98 fire sale and then they just traded him the following year.
   3. djordan Posted: May 11, 2017 at 10:22 PM (#5453934)
I would be curious to see which players were left unprotected in the drafts since '62. If anyone has easy access to this, I'd really like to see it. Remembered reading that the Orioles left Jim Palmer unprotected in the '69 draft.
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 11, 2017 at 11:24 PM (#5453969)

I was always surprised that the Royals left Jeff Conine unprotected in that draft. Who the heck were the 1992/93 Royals protecting? And then the Royals reacquired him during the '98 fire sale and then they just traded him the following year.


This was when I first started listening to sports talk radio and it was lampooned at the time that the Royals protected light-hitting shortstop David Howard over Conine, reasoning that if they lost Howard, they had no other shortstops. Good grief.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 11, 2017 at 11:31 PM (#5453973)

I would be curious to see which players were left unprotected in the drafts since '62. If anyone has easy access to this, I'd really like to see it. Remembered reading that the Orioles left Jim Palmer unprotected in the '69 draft.


It typically wasn't made public - you just get rumors of guys left unprotected. I've heard Palmer went unprotected too. Former Royals manager Charlie Metro said in an interview that Mickey Mantle was unprotected and he lobbied Cedric Tallis to choose him. Mantle retired anyway.

This article lists big names like Brooks Robinson, Paul Blair, Rico Carty, Lou Piniella, and Carl Yaztrzemsk available in 1976

I remember a lot of high-salaried stars being unprotected in '92 and '97 with the rationale that no one would take on that money. This article lists Danny Tartabull, Jack Morris, Eddie Murray, George Bell, Lee Smith, Jose Lind, Kelly Gruber and Tim Wallach available in 1992.
   6. djordan Posted: May 12, 2017 at 07:51 AM (#5454029)
#5, loved reading those articles you posted. Never realized the impact of "10&5" coverage had on the draft. I'm sure the Sox had a conversation with Yaz,who publicly refused to report if the Mariners or Blue Jays drafted him, allowing Boston to protect younger players like Bob Stanley & Don Aase. Guessing the Orioles did the same with Blair & Brooks Robinson.

Can't believe neither team drafted Pinella - I'd like to read more about that.
   7. Richard Posted: May 12, 2017 at 08:05 AM (#5454031)
Can't believe neither team drafted Pinella - I'd like to read more about that.


Piniella had of course been in the previous expansion draft - the Seattle Pilots took him, and then traded him to Kansas City. It was a poor trade - Piniella ended up as rookie of the year. He's quite prominent in the early chapters of Ball Four, and you are left with the impression that Pilots management just didn't care for his attitude.
   8. djordan Posted: May 12, 2017 at 09:07 AM (#5454067)
Yeah, the Pilots spring training is one of my favorite parts of BF. The one takeaway from my light researching of the expansion draft was that Otto Velez finished his career with a 123 OPS+.
   9. JohnQ Posted: May 12, 2017 at 10:07 AM (#5454114)
Andy Ashby was left unprotected by the Phiilies in that draft. He was drafted by the Rockies and he ended up having some really good years with the Padres in the mid-late 90's. He finished 2nd in the N.L. in Pitching WAR in 1995 and had two other top 10 WAR seasons.

From 1994-1999:

22.6 WAR-15th in the Majors, 6th in the N.L.
13.8 WAA-12th in the Majors, 7th in the N.L.

116 era+ Not bad considered most of those late 90's Padres teams had poor defense.

Ashby was an underrated/overlooked pitcher during the late 90's.
   10. Batman Posted: May 12, 2017 at 10:50 AM (#5454163)
A lot of big names in the Marlins' confusing history and at least two members of the current team came from trades that started with players taken in that draft.
1993- Hoffman (and two other expansion draftees, Jose Martinez and Andres Berumen) traded for Gary Sheffield
1998- Sheffield and others (including draftee Charles Johnson) traded for Mike Piazza and Todd Zeile
1998- Piazza traded for Preston Wilson and Ed Yarnall
1999- Yarnall traded for Mike Lowell
2002- Wilson and others traded for Juan Pierre (and Mike Hampton, who was immediately traded)
2005- Lowell and others traded for Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez
2012- Ramirez traded for Nathan Eovaldi
2014- Eovaldi traded for David Phelps and Martin Prado, who are both still on the team
   11. JohnQ Posted: May 12, 2017 at 12:38 PM (#5454292)
From Batman#10:

1993- Hoffman (and two other expansion draftees, Jose Martinez and Andres Berumen) traded for Gary Sheffield
1998- Sheffield and others (including draftee Charles Johnson) traded for Mike Piazza and Todd Zeile
1998- Piazza traded for Preston Wilson and Ed Yarnall
1999- Yarnall traded for Mike Lowell
2002- Wilson and others traded for Juan Pierre (and Mike Hampton, who was immediately traded)


Yeah selecting Trevor Hoffman was indirectly an important part of Both of their Championships.

Hoffman became Sheffield who was a starter on the 1997 team.

Sheffield became Piazza who became Lowell & Pierre who were both starters on the 2003 team.
   12. JohnQ Posted: May 12, 2017 at 12:38 PM (#5454293)

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