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Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Luke Scott calls Red Sox fans ‘arrogant, ruthless, vulgar’ trouble-makers

There needs to be accountability for the truth. I don’t care if you’re the president of the Red Sox Nation, you need to be held accountable!

What in the world is Bobby Valentine going to say about this? So far, he has tweaked the likes of Terry Francona, Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez and others with his rapier wit. Now, he might be on the verge of sparring with a man who owns the biggest arsenal of guns and fishing spears in Major League Baseball.

Tampa Bay Rays slugger Luke Scott, who not 48 hours ago confined his enemies to “criminals and communists,” forgot one. Fans of the Olde Towne Teame, the Boston Red Sox.

Scott, reminiscing about his time sitting inured in the Baltimore Orioles clubhouse watching the Red Sox collapse and the Rays rise up against the Yankees on the final day of the 2011 season, said his teammates were pulling for Tampa Bay all of the way. Why was he, MLB.com asked? Because Scott really dislikes Red Sox fans.

  “Just their arrogance,” Scott said. “The fans come in and they take over the city. They’re ruthless. They’re vulgar. They cause trouble. They talk about your family. Swear at you. Who likes that? When people do that, it just gives you more incentive to beat them. Then when things like [the last game of last season] happen, you celebrate even more. You go to St. Louis—classiest fans in the game. You do well, there’s no vulgarity. You know what? You don’t wish them bad.”

Repoz Posted: February 29, 2012 at 09:46 PM | 74 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dale Sams Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4071525)
Luke Scott was just elected President of the Broken Clock Association.

Edit: I've only ever seen Sox games in TB, KC and Texas. They do dominate the stadium in KC, but I've never seen any of the things he describes there...and they ain't taking over Rangers Ballpark.
   2. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4071528)
I bet some of them weren't even born in Boston.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM (#4071530)
What do you expect from TAX-achusetts.
   4. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:19 PM (#4071537)
Edit: I've only ever seen Sox games in TB, KC and Texas. They do dominate the stadium in KC, but I've never seen any of the things he describes there...and they ain't taking over Rangers Ballpark.


I saw them in TB too. The 2 biggest chants during the game were "Let's go Red Sox", and "Yankees Suck". That second one really rattled the blue hairs.
   5. hardrain Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:23 PM (#4071541)
finally... Scott makes sense...
   6. Dale Sams Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM (#4071549)
I saw them in TB too. The 2 biggest chants during the game were "Let's go Red Sox", and "Yankees Suck". That second one really rattled the blue hairs.


It was 2008 when I saw them. The first series. Sox got swept and there was a fairly vocal TB contingent...and those GD cowbells.
   7. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: February 29, 2012 at 10:38 PM (#4071565)
They’re ruthless. They’re vulgar. They cause trouble. They talk about your family. Swear at you.


I resemble that remark. But only in my own house, when I'm trying to convince the television what a bad team the other team is and why it's the most horrible injustice when the Red Sox give up a run. When I go to the ballpark, Red Sox fans and the fans of the other team (doesn't matter who) embarrass me by their vulgarity. I save my vitriol for the boob tube.
   8. puck Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM (#4071590)
I like Red Sox fans in Coors field. They're one of the few things that wake up the Rockies fans. Tho like #7 says, the vularity seems to come from both parties.
   9. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4071611)
Luke Scott coming perilously close to getting me to root for the Red Sox.
   10. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:44 PM (#4071624)
You don’t wish them bad

Ah shucks Luke, we don't wish nobody no bad whatsoevah....

Of course most annoying of all is that incredibly vocal Australian Red Sox contingent, screaming and whinging from thousands of miles away wishing all the bad possible on Luke himself.
   11. rr Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM (#4071629)
I see a lot of meme and handle potential in this.

Maybe Scott needs to smoke the objective pipe when it comes to Red Sox Nation.
   12. Darren Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM (#4071633)
Finally, a new name for Sox Therapy!
   13. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM (#4071634)
If Luke Scott didn't exist, we'd have to invent him, or at least buy Joey B a fake beard (and a 7 ft. long pig-killing spear) and send him down to St. Pete to do a good impersonation. How can anyone not love this guy?
   14. bookbook Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4071638)
Luke Scott v. Curt Schilling cage match!

No violence, just verbal jousting. My money's on Schilling, but Scott can probably take a verbal riposte and shrug it off like he doesn't even know he's been hit.
   15. Erix Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:23 AM (#4071664)
Blah blah Pot Kettle Black.
   16. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:33 AM (#4071665)
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   17. shoewizard Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:41 AM (#4071666)
I'm with Puck. It was a lot of fun the last time the Red Sox came to Chase field. First game the Red Sox creamed the D Backs, and it got rough having to listen to the chants. Place was full, and about 60% Sox fans.

The next night D Backs fans got into it, and started hollering back.

We even got a chant going "Ste-vens Bet-ter" . (Than JD). Mr. and Mrs Drew were in attendance. They laughed.

D Backs lost that game too, but it was close and the atmosphere was like a playoff game.

Last Game RJ outpitched Dice K. Sunday crowd......finally more D Backs fans than Red Sox fans.....who had to go home for work on Monday.

But still fun.

If you can't fill your own house, then it's still better to have a full house, even if it's due to an "enemy invasion".



   18. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:43 AM (#4071669)
I don't know why Scott decided to soft-pedal his comments. Say it like it is, brother!
   19. AROM Posted: March 01, 2012 at 09:03 AM (#4071728)
I've gone to many Orioles - Red Sox games in Camden Yards, and the experience tends to fill me with a lot of sympathy with the people of Iraq.
   20. just plain joe Posted: March 01, 2012 at 09:37 AM (#4071736)
It's funny how things change over time; I went to an Indians-Red Sox game at Fenway in 1996 and about two-thirds of the crowd were Cleveland fans. I don't remember any "Red Sox suck" cheers but if one had gotten started the Boston fans would have been powerless to deal with it.
   21. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 01, 2012 at 09:44 AM (#4071740)
Why doesn't Luke Scott just shoot them?
   22. Chip Posted: March 01, 2012 at 11:40 AM (#4071765)
Last Game RJ outpitched Dice K. Sunday crowd......finally more D Backs fans than Red Sox fans.....who had to go home for work on Monday.


Why does anyone think this is true? Sure, there might be a handful of people who flew out from Boston for games, but the vast majority of Sox fans (and Yankee fans, for that matter) who show up for away games are transplants who live and work in the area the team is visiting.
   23. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: March 01, 2012 at 11:43 AM (#4071768)
"Plus, they say that Fenway is the oldest operating Major League ballpark. Anyone can say that -- where's the original occupancy permit? Has anyone seen it?"
   24. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 11:53 AM (#4071779)
Why doesn't Luke Scott just shoot them himself?


Preferable.
   25. Nasty Nate Posted: March 01, 2012 at 11:53 AM (#4071780)
but the vast majority of Sox fans (and Yankee fans, for that matter) who show up for away games are transplants who live and work in the area the team is visiting.


I'm not sure this is true.
   26. jmurph Posted: March 01, 2012 at 11:58 AM (#4071787)
The last time I caught a Sox-O's game in Baltimore, I have to admit I was embarrassed by my fellow Sox fans. Not really "vulgar" so much as generally obnoxious.

I mean Luke Scott is also embarrassing, but in a different way.
   27. SoSH U at work Posted: March 01, 2012 at 11:58 AM (#4071788)
I'm not sure this is true.


I doubt that. There are a lot of fans, like me, who grew up Red Sox (or Yankee, or Cubs, etc.) fans because their dad or grandfather was born in New England and relocated but maintained and passed down the family allegiance. I think we make up more of the visiting crowds than folks flying in for a weekend series.
   28. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:02 PM (#4071796)
Tampa Bay Rays slugger Luke Scott, who not 48 hours ago confined his enemies to “criminals and communists,” forgot one. Fans of the Olde Towne Teame, the Boston Red Sox.
I think that falls under "communists."
   29. Nasty Nate Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:04 PM (#4071803)
Re: #27, Maybe, but I don't think the majority is "vast." I know lots of people who travel to road Sox games, and I have done it to several places.
   30. SoSH U at work Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:09 PM (#4071811)
Re: #27, Maybe, but I don't think the majority is "vast." I know lots of people who travel to road Sox games, and I have done it to several places.


Well I suspect it would be vast. We really are all over, and if you're a Red Sox fan in the Chicagoland area, then you're basically waiting for that one or two series a year that the Sox come to you.
   31. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:14 PM (#4071816)
Re: #27, Maybe, but I don't think the majority is "vast." I know lots of people who travel to road Sox games, and I have done it to several places.


I have too but I think the further away from Boston you get the more likely it is that the crowd is populated by locals who just root for a non-local team (e.g. SoSH). When the Sox go to Baltimore, New York, Philly it's probably more likely to be Boston-based fans who just made the short flight/drive.

The last time I caught a Sox-O's game in Baltimore, I have to admit I was embarrassed by my fellow Sox fans. Not really "vulgar" so much as generally obnoxious.


In my experience this is true of any out of town fans. I've seen it on both sides of Red Sox games and at games I was a neutral observer at. I think visiting team fans combine the worst of "finally get to see our team in person", "I'm on vacation so I can get liquored up" and "I feel compelled to make up for the fact that I'm outnumbered here" into a delightful package of obnoxiousness, immaturity and general #############.

For example, for all the Yankee/Red Sox games I've been to at Fenway I have never seen a group of fans as vulgar and obnoxious as the Giant fans in 2007. Not sure why but they were a rowdy bunch. By the same token when I saw the Sox in Tampa in 2005 it was the same thing in reverse with idiot Red Sox fans acting every bit as asinine.
   32. jmurph Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4071834)
In my experience this is true of any out of town fans. I've seen it on both sides of Red Sox games and at games I was a neutral observer at. I think visiting team fans combine the worst of "finally get to see our team in person", "I'm on vacation so I can get liquored up" and "I feel compelled to make up for the fact that I'm outnumbered here" into a delightful package of obnoxiousness, immaturity and general #############.


Agree, for the most part. The thing in Baltimore specifically is that Boston fans are typically in the MAJORITY. That makes it a little more distasteful, in my mind.
   33. SoSH U at work Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4071849)
In my experience this is true of any out of town fans.


In my experience this is true of most fans.
   34. Rants Mulliniks Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:43 PM (#4071862)
In my neck of the woods (the Canadian Maritimes) the only kind of bowling is candlepin, which uses 10 pins and a ball that isn't a whole lot bigger than a softball, and any downed pin is in play until you throw three balls or all the pins are knocked down. 245 for a string is the world record, so generally 100 is considered pretty good for recreational bolwers. I haven't bowled in years, but I would bowl two stings and have one about 75 and the other 120, I had no consistency at all. My PB was 138.
   35. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 12:57 PM (#4071877)
In my experience this is true of any out of town fans. I've seen it on both sides of Red Sox games and at games I was a neutral observer at. I think visiting team fans combine the worst of "finally get to see our team in person", "I'm on vacation so I can get liquored up" and "I feel compelled to make up for the fact that I'm outnumbered here" into a delightful package of obnoxiousness, immaturity and general #############.

For example, for all the Yankee/Red Sox games I've been to at Fenway I have never seen a group of fans as vulgar and obnoxious as the Giant fans in 2007. Not sure why but they were a rowdy bunch. By the same token when I saw the Sox in Tampa in 2005 it was the same thing in reverse with idiot Red Sox fans acting every bit as asinine.


I've never travelled to see the Yankees (I did attend a bunch of games in Fenway when I lived in Boston, and Wrigley/Comiskey in Chicago, but could never score Yankee tix) but I think this behavior is disgraceful.

It's like you're visiting someone else's house. You can cheer for you team, but besides that, STFU.

If you show up in another stadium acting the ass, chanting, making obnoxious comments, you deserve all the abuse you get (obviously not including violence). I feel no sympathy for obnoxious out of town fans who get a beer dumped on them.
   36. Nasty Nate Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:12 PM (#4071891)
Am I the only one who likes a little tension, a little chaos, and a little antagonism between opposing fans? I have mixed feelings about the Disney-fication of the ballpark experience.
   37. jmurph Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:19 PM (#4071896)
Am I the only one who likes a little tension, a little chaos, and a little antagonism between opposing fans?


I don't disagree generally. In the specific case being discussed (Sox fans in Baltimore), I'm just turned off by acting that way when you're the dominant team outnumbering their own fans in their own stadium. It's one thing to be the fan on the road playfully taking the abuse from the majority of the home fans- I've done that myself. But when it's essentially Fenway South, it's just a little less tasteful, I think.
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:24 PM (#4071900)
Am I the only one who likes a little tension, a little chaos, and a little antagonism between opposing fans? I have mixed feelings about the Disney-fication of the ballpark experience.

I don't like loud mouths and obnoxious people at the ballpark, even when they're rooting for my side.
   39. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:30 PM (#4071910)
Am I the only one who likes a little tension, a little chaos, and a little antagonism between opposing fans? I have mixed feelings about the Disney-fication of the ballpark experience.


In my experience the fans I have the biggest problems with, and the ones who seem to get themselves into trouble, are the visiting fans who go from cheering "for" their team to cheering "against" the opponent. I think the former creates a fun bit of tension and antagonism, the latter is more along the lines of snapper's hypothetical rude house guest.
   40. Nasty Nate Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4071912)
I'm just turned off by acting that way when you're the dominant team outnumbering their own fans in their own stadium. It's one thing to be the fan on the road playfully taking the abuse from the majority of the home fans- I've done that myself. But when it's essentially Fenway South, it's just a little less tasteful, I think.


hmmm, I kind of disagree. I think if you do "take over" a visiting stadium you should get to celebrate it a little. If the Sox fans become the majority at Camden, I think they can act like the majority.
   41. AROM Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:44 PM (#4071925)
"hmmm, I kind of disagree. I think if you do "take over" a visiting stadium you should get to celebrate it a little. If the Sox fans become the majority at Camden, I think they can act like the majority."

Just because they can does not mean they should. Unless you get off on being hated.
   42. jingoist Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4071933)
Fan boorishness drove me completely away from the NFL. Way too many drunks and then resultant foul language, and I'm certainly no prude.

And, I find the angst of the crowd a little too testosterone-filled for my taste at NHL games.

The last "reasonably behaved" fan-base, MLB is also loosing its civility.

America has demonstrably changed, and not for the better, in the behavior of its citizens when in public.

Now, I'm an old coot, I'll admit that.
But I cringe at some of the things emanating from the mouths of fans at games, especially when women and young children are within easy earshot.

That said, good old-fashioned ribbing from one teams fans to the others is part and parcel of the true game experience.
How boring if the stands are filled 100% with home team "homers".
   43. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: March 01, 2012 at 01:56 PM (#4071936)
Hmm. Boston? I mean, I guess, but... Baseball Reference has told me that Scott has played nine games in Philadelphia. I would have thought that that would have been more than enough games for some fan to intentionally vomit on him.
   44. Traderdave Posted: March 01, 2012 at 02:03 PM (#4071946)
I've never been to Fenway but have seen the Red Sox play in 4 other cities, and in my experience, Scott's description is accurate. If anything, he's sugar-coating it.

I've never seen anything like that from other teams' visiting fans. Cub fans can get loud & boozy, but they generally are good natured. Sawx fans, in my experience, are not only loud & boozy, but combative, thin-skinned, ill-tempered and extremely obnoxious as well.

I realize I'll get flamed for this post, but that's been my experience
   45. Nasty Nate Posted: March 01, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4071952)
The last "reasonably behaved" fan-base, MLB is also loosing its civility.

America has demonstrably changed, and not for the better, in the behavior of its citizens when in public.


I can only speak to Fenway, but civility has increased in the past 15 years. Now you can get bounced for swearing.
   46. Bob Evans Posted: March 01, 2012 at 02:30 PM (#4071974)
How boring if the stands are filled 100% with home team "homers".

I'm reading Jim Brosnan's Pennant Race for the first time, and it's amusing how often he mentions Reds fans riding Reds players.
   47. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 01, 2012 at 02:49 PM (#4071985)
The Rockies management - and I'm sure other teams do this as well - really invite the Red Sox hordes to invade Coors Field when their team is in town. They jack up ticket prices to superpremium levels when the Sox or Yankees or Cubs are playing here, such that people like me, who are more interested in seeing the Rockies than in seeing the opposing team, wouldn't bother buying tickets to those games. I can go to three Pirates games for what it would cost me to see one Red Sox game.

So of course it's disproportionately fans of the visiting team who end up buying those tickets. And the Rockies front office does everything it can to make that happen.
   48. Styles P. Deadball Posted: March 01, 2012 at 02:59 PM (#4071996)
I can only speak to Fenway, but civility has increased in the past 15 years. Now you can get bounced for swearing.


I would be fine with witty swearing at the ballpark (within reason). My objection is that the loudest guys usually have some version of "Hey (insert player name), you suck!" as their go-to exclamation.
   49. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 03:01 PM (#4071998)
Hey, Styles P. Deadball, you suck!
   50. OsunaSakata Posted: March 01, 2012 at 03:08 PM (#4072011)
I seem to remember Manny Ramirez saying in the press conference after hitting his 500th home run that he was glad he did it in front his home fans. The Red Sox were playing in Baltimore. Just Manny being Manny?
   51. Dale Sams Posted: March 01, 2012 at 04:29 PM (#4072085)
You know those seats you see on TV that are literally 4 feet to the right of the managers's head? I've often wondered if the occupants of the seats are under strict instructions not to speak to the managers or players. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been able to resist telling Francona, "You can go get him now."
   52. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 01, 2012 at 04:44 PM (#4072097)
Funny, when I think of arrogant, ruthless, vulgar troublemakers who are big fans of something from Boston, I think of a political group for which Mr. Scott may have a bit more of an affinity.
   53. toratoratora Posted: March 01, 2012 at 04:45 PM (#4072098)
Hmmm, purely anecdotal, but I work in downtown Baltimore at one of the nicest restaurants in town, (one that many athletes frequent, happily enough) smack in the heart of downtown, and we don't get much extra business when the Sox are in town but we staff extra for the Yanks.
They get many many more out of town fans than the Sox-not even close. Now we'll see a bigger crowd than normal for the beantown bys, no doubt, but that's mostly local Sox fans coming out of the woodwork, but nothing like the droves that you see for the MFY.
Some of those MFY games, hotel rooms are tough to get and that never happens with the Sox. Not even the final series last year.
   54. Robinson Cano Plate Like Home Posted: March 01, 2012 at 04:55 PM (#4072109)
Baltimore is a reasonable drive from most of NJ, and an easy drive from a lot of it. You don't day trip Boston->Baltimore.
   55. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:02 PM (#4072124)
Fan boorishness drove me completely away from the NFL. Way too many drunks and then resultant foul language, and I'm certainly no prude.

I'll gladly put up with a bunch of obnoxious fans if they'd just turn down the volume on the ####### loudspeakers. At least those obnoxious fans have to supply their own loudness, and unlike the loudspeakers, you can yell right back at them if you like.
   56. winnipegwhip Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:06 PM (#4072128)
For hometown fans, I have to say the boorishness of nouveau Winnipeg Jets fans will result in dislike of the franchise if the team ever attains some level of success.

I work with a guy who said it was a shock and outrage the number of Bruins fans in the arena two weeks ago when the B's played in town.
   57. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4072132)
I've been going up to Baltimore from the DC area since the Memorial Stadium days, and I know lots of other Yankee & Red Sox fans who make the trip regularly. Some will takes in a whole series and stay over, others commute for each game. There are tons of transients in the DC area, and the absence of a MLB team in DC until recently helped keep old allegiances alive. My guess is that 60-70% of the fans rooting for the out-of-town team at Camden Yards are from the DC area.
   58. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:14 PM (#4072147)
Sawx fans, in my experience, are not only loud & boozy, but combative, thin-skinned, ill-tempered and extremely obnoxious as well.
Q.F.T.
   59. Answer Guy Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4072152)
I see Luke Scott is still a walking, talking loudmouth redneck moron stereotype.
   60. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4072167)
I seem to remember Manny Ramirez saying in the press conference after hitting his 500th home run that he was glad he did it in front his home fans. The Red Sox were playing in Baltimore. Just Manny being Manny?


I was at that game, as a Sox fan who flew down to Baltimore for the game. I'd say the crowd was 75% Sox fans that night. So Manny had a point.
   61. Answer Guy Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:29 PM (#4072169)
As for the Sox in B'more, last season was the first time I can recall that all three Sox visits were mid-week affairs, which limits the ability of New Englanders to make the trip like they would for a weekend series. I went to 3 of the games. There were a lot of Red Sox fans in the stands in all 3 series, probably either transplants like yours truly or locals who are Sox fans for some reason, but there wasn't a true Fenway South type atmosphere like I had seen in some other seasons.

I happened to be in the stands for Manny's #500. It was a Saturday night on Memorial Day weekend. If it wasn't a sellout it was damn close and if you weren't decked out in red, you were outnumbered. Only the lack of a Green Monster and the fact that the Orioles batted last would clue you in that you weren't in Boston that night.
   62. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:33 PM (#4072173)
Of COURSE Sox fans are obnoxious, rude, and crude--this is hardly limited to Boston. But Luke needs to be careful when calling out Boston fans for "invading"--in doing this he's actually calling out his own city.

Fill 'em up or suck it up.
   63. Answer Guy Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:44 PM (#4072189)
I wonder if the Orioles arranged to have all the Boston dates midweek last season, thinking not only is it embarassing to have the road fans takeover but that it might work out better to have non-draw opponents for weekend games. (Probably not, as they'd have kept the Yankee games to the middle of the week too, and they were in town for at least one weekend.)
   64. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 05:51 PM (#4072197)
Maybe they could only get one of the series shifted to midweek.
   65. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 01, 2012 at 06:23 PM (#4072229)
I wonder if the Orioles arranged to have all the Boston dates midweek last season, thinking not only is it embarassing to have the road fans takeover but that it might work out better to have non-draw opponents for weekend games. (Probably not, as they'd have kept the Yankee games to the middle of the week too, and they were in town for at least one weekend.)

In both 2009 and 2010 the Red Sox played 6 of their 9 games in Baltimore over the weekend. Last year was probably just a random scheduling fluke.
   66. jingoist Posted: March 01, 2012 at 06:25 PM (#4072230)
When Stan Kasten took the job of President, Baseball Operations for the Washington Nationals a few years back, he ran ads in Philadelphia media to get the Phillies fans to come to DC.

Philadelphia, like Boston and NY home games are continuously sold out so Philly fans flocked to DC.....to such a degree it was 75-25 Philly to Natinals fans for many games these past several years.

I believe that is about to change as the Nationals are going to field a very respectable team this year.
We may even contend.

Hopefully the team quality will draw fans to such a degree that the Nat's don't feel compelled to put Philly's fans fannies in the seats.

But if the Nationals fans dont come, shame on DC and "welcome Philadelphia fans!"
   67. Nasty Nate Posted: March 01, 2012 at 06:29 PM (#4072233)
In both 2009 and 2010 the Red Sox played 6 of their 9 games in Baltimore over the weekend. Last year was probably just a random scheduling fluke.


This year only one of the series is on a weekend. Since almost half of all series are on a weekend, the only real fluke would be if all or none of them were on a weekend versus a division rival.
   68. Answer Guy Posted: March 01, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4072251)
Re: #65...I had gotten used to two weekend series a year for a long time. In 2010 it was reduced to one. I was in the habit of telling kin back home to come to B'more (I live 4 miles north or OP@CY and near a Light Rail station) to see the Sox and crash w/ me. No one was able to take me up on it last year.

There's one three-game set on a weekend at the close of the season in B'more this year. Who goes will depend a lot on how the Sox do this season, since we can probably assume Baltimore will be awful again, especially with that projected rotation.
   69. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: March 01, 2012 at 07:59 PM (#4072307)
I don't like loud mouths and obnoxious people at the ballpark, even when they're rooting for my side.
I don't agree with snapper all that often, but I do here, 100%.

Taunting and all that bullshit turns me off. I'd rather sit next to a polite, knowledgeable fan of the "wrong" team than an overloud or aggressive fan of my team any day. (And actually, the knowledgeable isn't necessarily a required part of that calculus.)
   70. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 08:28 PM (#4072335)
Luke Scott was just elected President of the Broken Clock Association.


Did Jose Canseco step down? Term limits?
   71. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: March 01, 2012 at 08:30 PM (#4072337)
Just their arrogance,” Scott said. “The fans come in and they take over the city. They’re ruthless. They’re vulgar. They cause trouble. They talk about your family. Swear at you.


True story: I was visiting Boston 2 years ago with girlfriend and twice in one night I was called a #@*$ (rhymes with runt) by women.
   72. RJames Posted: March 01, 2012 at 09:13 PM (#4072353)
I've gone to many Orioles - Red Sox games in Camden Yards, and the experience tends to fill me with a lot of sympathy with the people of Iraq.


I've been to several Sox/O's games at OPACY and I don't notice any difference in the behavior of either fan base, aside from the color of the jerseys the more demonstrative fans wear. I think Scott's problem is that he says a lot of really stupid things, and so is targeted for abuse by the hecklers, who are a part of every park.

A couple of years ago, there was a rain delay at one of them and just for the heck of it, while we were wqaiting under the grandstands for the rain to subside, I decided to count the relative number of fans wearing clothing that betrayed their loyalties. Red Sox fans outnumbered Orioles fans by about a 2:1 margin.
   73. Dale Sams Posted: March 01, 2012 at 09:24 PM (#4072362)
I don't like loud mouths and obnoxious people at the ballpark, even when they're rooting for my side.


In KC in 2010, I was sitting by myself like I usually do, watching the Sox play. There was a family seated right next to me, and this was while the Sox were still in it, but the injury bug had bitten hard by this point. First inning, and Kevin Youkilis gets beaned around the head and goes down hard. Before I could stop myself, I stand straight up and yell "MOTHERF***ER!"

Unsurprisingly, the family soon moved away from the crazy, scraggly Red Sox fan sitting by himself. I did feel bad.
   74. Karl from NY Posted: March 02, 2012 at 09:13 AM (#4072588)
The weirdest place I ever saw clogged with Red Sox fans was the Hockey Hall of Fame, in Toronto. The Sox were in town for a weekend series, and that Saturday morning it seemed that every Sox fan in the province was visiting the HHOF. (It's easy walking distance from the stadium.)

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