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Tuesday, March 06, 2018

Mallee’s numbers tell story about Phillies’ bats

Better hitting through data.

“Our whole philosophy of selective, aggressive hitting is our guys are going to attack pitches they can drive early in the count and take everything else within the strike zone, even if it’s a strike,” Mallee said. “Wherever their strengths are, they’re going to look in there. If the ball shows up there they’re going to swing, but if it doesn’t that’s how they work counts as opposed to taking pitches. We’re looking for something to slug until the count tells us we have to change our behavior. The count tells us that when we get to two strikes. Now I have a different approach for that.

“We try to keep it as simple plan as possible. It’s almost like see it and hit it, but it’s see it where and hit it.”

Jim Furtado Posted: March 06, 2018 at 06:49 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TomH Posted: March 06, 2018 at 07:15 AM (#5634289)
Great philosophy. If you can get the hitters like Franco to buy in.... I have no idea how hard THAT part is.
   2. Cris E Posted: March 06, 2018 at 10:23 AM (#5634383)
I think the hitters probably get it and many will honestly try to respond because they know it's truth. But but the trouble is that pitchers do too. Even if Franco has some incredible insight this month and stops swinging at the first pitch, he still has to learn to hit sliders. And he's going to see a ton of them until he proves he can handle them. If he waits for something he can drive then they'll throw sliders for strikes until he gets to 1-2. These "new approaches" mostly have to do with getting hitters to help themselves, but in the end they still need to hit the pitches. That's still really hard.
   3. Jesse Barfield's Right Arm Posted: March 06, 2018 at 12:22 PM (#5634500)
This is really impressive. If you read the piece, it's not just a hitting coach incorporating stat guys, but one who does his own analysis and then checks with the Saber guys.

Not sure "Hendo" or "Stairsy" was doing this (although, of course, the latter remains a Philly legend for taking Broxton deep).
   4. Zonk is a cagey fellow Posted: March 06, 2018 at 01:47 PM (#5634552)
Mallee had a nice run with the Cubs - I guess he paid the price (or they just liked Chili Davis more) for some of last year's stagnation, but I think he's a fine hitting coach.
   5. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: March 06, 2018 at 02:22 PM (#5634576)
“Our whole philosophy of selective, aggressive hitting is our guys are going to attack pitches they can drive early in the count and take everything else within the strike zone, even if it’s a strike,”


Dear Opposing Pitchers; throw Phillies hitters strikes against their hit preferences.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: March 06, 2018 at 03:22 PM (#5634628)
Nothing wrong with what's shown in the article, nothing particularly brilliant about it either. The only piece of data we haven't had for 25+ years is the number of first-pitch swings at pitches outside of the zone. We couldn't have told you the exact number of sliders either but it's not like it would have been a secret that he can't hit them but can't stop swinging at them. Everybody knew Soriano swung and missed outside breaking stuff and Reggie Sanders couldn't lay off high fastballs long before statcast and pitchf/x.

Even setting aside Ruth, Williams, etc. "take and rake" (or "rake and take") has been the dominant hitting philosophy since 1993.

As #1 suggests ... it's easy to tell a batter what he's doing wrong. Fixing it ....
   7. Zonk is a cagey fellow Posted: March 06, 2018 at 03:52 PM (#5634649)
As #1 suggests ... it's easy to tell a batter what he's doing wrong. Fixing it ....


"Jason, we feel you're hitting too many weak pop-ups and routine grounders to 2B."
   8. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: March 06, 2018 at 03:56 PM (#5634651)
"Jason, we feel you're hitting too many weak pop-ups and routine grounders to 2B."

From today's ST Game, 1 out 2 on: "Heyward popped out to shortstop."
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 06, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5634658)
From today's ST Game, 1 out 2 on: "Heyward popped out to shortstop."

Glad to see he's already in midseason form. Do we think this is the year that fans' patience finally starts to wear out?
   10. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: March 06, 2018 at 04:11 PM (#5634663)
Yes. Last year enough other guys were struggling that it wasn't completely obvious all the time there was clearly a better option.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: March 06, 2018 at 10:01 PM (#5634742)
While not happy, I am OK with Heyward in the lineup to catch FBs -- think of him as a poor man's OF version of Mark Belanger -- as long as Joe has enough sense to avoid as many LHP as he can and enough sense to PH late in a game. I swear there are still games where Joe manages with the goal to get Heyward up with the game on the line.
   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 07, 2018 at 08:53 AM (#5634790)
Pretty sure Heyward's not a poor man's anything. That's a big part of the problem.

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