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Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Man killed following argument over Blue Jays pitching staff

Don’t tell me this was over a ‘Down goes Frasor’ comment or something.

Police say a man who died from an “alleged sucker” punch outside a Calgary bar had been in an argument over the Toronto Blue Jays’ pitching staff moments before he was struck.

Brian Ludwig, a 41-year-old father, died in hospital after the fight early Sunday morning following a charity golf tournament. Ludwig had been at the pub as part of the fundraiser.

Police say they were called to the pub at about 2:50 a.m. Sunday morning.

Ludwig was transported to hospital, where he died.

...The fight began over a disagreement about baseball, police told the Calgary paper Tuesday.

“It was in regards to pitchers in the (Toronto) Blue Jays,” said Staff Sgt. Doug Andrus of the homicide unit.

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   101. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 03:49 PM (#4221534)
I'm at work right now and they have a filter up that prevents me from going to the site. If by the time I get home there is still a spot open I'll join.
   102. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: August 29, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4221540)
I'm in!
   103. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 29, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4221542)
Gotta love BBTF: A guy gets killed arguing over the Blue Jays, and the thread needs only four posts to devolve into a discussion of Canadian geography, Canadians, and boardgames.

Yeah! The bum deserved it! Or, yeah! Hang the bum what hit him!
   104. Greg K Posted: August 29, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4221544)
OK, bad luck McCoy.

Shooty's in now, I think it's fair to have a first-come, first-serve call for whoever wants the last spot.
   105. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: August 29, 2012 at 03:59 PM (#4221552)
I'm #7 then. Looks like we all have to go back to the site and 'confirm participation' before the draw.
   106. BFFB Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4221556)
Basic, out-of-the-box Risk actually isn't that good of a game, sad to say. Without some incentive to move things along the game gets too static, but accelerating card-set values is an imperfect solution. Single game outcomes are also much too dependent on the luck of the dice rolls.


Risk: Legacy is a great version of RISK because everything decision you make is permanent, e.g. how the previous game ended affects how the next game starts, certain cards can only be unlocked after a certain milestone achieved over a number of games, some you "edit" permanently as you play and others are supposed to be straight up destroyed so they can never be used again.
   107. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:07 PM (#4221564)
Russia, bltches!
   108. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:08 PM (#4221565)
Game's started. Allons-y, baby!
   109. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:10 PM (#4221568)
Schnell and so forth. Germany is probably my worst draw. Good luck you all.
   110. Gaelan Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:11 PM (#4221570)
I am very upset that I missed this.
   111. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4221572)
How do we conspire?
   112. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:13 PM (#4221573)
I missed it by a matter of minutes it looks like. I had to go outside the building with my phone and by the time everything got through it was too late.

Well, we just need 5 more people apparently.
   113. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:14 PM (#4221575)
You send private messages and press through the website under the "messages" and "public press" buttons above the map.
   114. zenbitz Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4221584)
Risk is horrible. Almost as bad as monopoly.

When I was in high school we played an amped up nuclear Risk-like game called Supremacy. We had a lot of fun with that, but it was even harder to end (very balanced).



We used to play some WWII reenactment game that took place on a giant paper map and took days or weeks to finish. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called.


I play stuff like that... I am playing

totaler kreig (ETO) and Dai Senso (PTO) over labor day weekend. This is a concession for me; we might actually finish.

Most of these huge games have PBM/online kits you can play using a program called VASSAL. The computer doesn't enforce any rules though - it's just a virtual map and counters and a die roller.
   115. Swedish Chef Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4221587)
How do we conspire?

You promise the moon and the stars and everlasting fidelity. And then you stab the sucker in the back.
   116. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:26 PM (#4221599)
Gotta love BBTF: A guy gets killed arguing over the Blue Jays, and the thread needs only four posts to devolve into a discussion of Canadian geography, Canadians, and boardgames.

Rather bad form playing games even before the funeral, eh?
   117. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:31 PM (#4221610)
The headline reads like a straight news item but it opens to a Richard Griffin column. Strange, no?

Rather bad form playing games even before the funeral, eh?

I demand to know the names of any Jays players who skip the service.
   118. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:35 PM (#4221612)
Any of you Diplomacy dorks ever read Roberto Bolaño's The Third Reich? It's kind of the Universal Baseball Association of military strategy fiction.
   119. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4221627)
What do you mean, Henderson Alvarez sucks? Step oootside, you hoser.
   120. Greg K Posted: August 29, 2012 at 04:48 PM (#4221634)
What do you mean, Henderson Alvarez sucks? Step oootside, you hoser.

In an odd turning of the tables last month Henderson Alvarez heckled a bunch of thirty-something Toronto men.

My brother's men's league had their annual All-Star game at the Sky Dome after an afternoon Jays game and apparently Alvarez hung around to good-naturedly rib some of the Spanish-speaking players. He actually sounds like a cool guy and eventually came around with the friends and girlfriends to watch the game.
   121. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: August 29, 2012 at 05:45 PM (#4221703)
1) That is unbelievably cool (that they have their ASG at the park)
2) I'd have asked him to pitch, just to see if he could strike any of THOSE guys out.
   122. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: August 29, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4221736)
Cheerio, y'all. The Brits are suffering from typer's cramp already...
   123. Brian White Posted: August 29, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4221780)
Well, we just need 5 more people apparently.


I'd play, even though I haven't played Diplomacy in more than a decade.
   124. mashimaro Posted: August 29, 2012 at 07:36 PM (#4221781)
I'm ready if someone will start a new game to sign up for.
   125. mashimaro Posted: August 29, 2012 at 08:14 PM (#4221799)
I created a new game.

www.playdiplomacy.com


game name: BTF Diplomacy 2
password: baseball
   126. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: August 29, 2012 at 08:14 PM (#4221800)
Man, I got to this thread too late. I've only played Diplomacy twice, and not since about 1995, but I've been jonesing to play it again ever since. I'd definitely be up for an e-game on a day when I could carve out the time (not today, unfortunately).
   127. Gaelan Posted: August 29, 2012 at 09:07 PM (#4221833)
I joined the second game. I think the settings should be set up so that the pace of play is slow. The settings for the first game was orders every 7 days. That might be a little slow but in any case there has to be time to communicate online (i.e. engage in diplomacy) with people on quite different schedules.
   128. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: August 29, 2012 at 09:40 PM (#4221848)
You second game Diplomacy guys are poseurs! Clearly we'll need to have some kind of championship when both games are done.
   129. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 09:53 PM (#4221855)
I joined. I've never played before. I watched the tutorial so I think I've got it. Of course the finer points of the game are lost on me right now and I have no idea which areas are the most strategic areas. By my guess it would appear to be Spain and Constantinople are rather strategic but I have no clue how important naval movement is in this game. Also, one thing I wasn't clear on is can naval units capture provinces?
   130. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 09:55 PM (#4221856)
Orders every 12 hours might be a bit too quick for me. Especially this weekend where I'm basically occupied for about 50 of the 72 hours and that doesn't include sleep.
   131. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM (#4221861)
You second game Diplomacy guys are poseurs! Clearly we'll need to have some kind of championship when both games are done.

Oh, it's on NOW, ############.
Never played this in my life, but I reckon I'm fixin' to.

EDIT: joined BTF Diplomacy 2 (but #1 in the People's hearts!)
EDIT2: I'm totally fine with moves every 7 days, I think. I have whole weeks that are much like McCoy describes this weekend, except I never know for sure when they're going to happen.
   132. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4221865)
2 spots left in the second game and apparently only two people brave enough to use their BTF names.
   133. Brian White Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4221868)
If we are having a Diplomacy championship, don't we have to play seven games and have the winner of each game face off?

Anyway, I'm in the second game. I agree that 12 hours might be too quick; can that be changed now?

McCoy, naval units can move into (or support armies going into) coastal provinces.
   134. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM (#4221872)
Can mashimaro do it? I don't think we can, hopefully he can.
   135. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:11 PM (#4221874)
McCoy, naval units can move into (or support armies going into) coastal provinces.

So does that mean a naval unit can have a battle against a land army in a coastal province or does it have to be unoccupied?
   136. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM (#4221876)
2 spots left in the second game and apparently only two people brave enough to use their BTF names.

I'm "Jigokumimi." My BTF name is just too dang long.
   137. Brian White Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:25 PM (#4221882)
So does that mean a naval unit can have a battle against a land army in a coastal province or does it have to be unoccupied?


Doesn't matter if an army is there or not.

If you prefer written rules (I didn't care for the videos on the playdiplomacy site), here's a PDF of the rules.
   138. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:26 PM (#4221884)
OK. I joined Game 2. Haven't played in 30 years, but what the hell.

But, I agree every 12 hours is crazy for moves. We need time to conspire.
   139. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:40 PM (#4221887)
Doesn't matter if an army is there or not.

If you prefer written rules (I didn't care for the videos on the playdiplomacy site), here's a PDF of the rules.


So if I'm reading it right a fleet can attack London with the support of a land army next to London and so it will be 2-1 and the fleet will push the defending Army off of London. Is that correct?
   140. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:44 PM (#4221890)
Joined game 2. Never played before, but I am a big fan of conspiring and pissing people off, so this seems like the game for me.
   141. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:47 PM (#4221891)
So if I'm reading it right a fleet can attack London with the support of a land army next to London and so it will be 2-1 and the fleet will push the defending Army off of London. Is that correct?

That's how I remember it.
   142. zonk Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:48 PM (#4221892)
I'd be up for starting up the rogue Federal League/league 3, but won't have time to learn to play till tomorrow.
   143. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 10:56 PM (#4221901)
We're all full up now.
   144. Gaelan Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:05 PM (#4221907)
I last played diplomacy as a teenager. My uncle (my mother's sister's husband) had the game and used to talk about how they used to play for hours in university. So he taught me, my cousin (his daughter) and his niece (from his side) how to play. All I remember about the game was how his niece cried and cried when she was betrayed. She's all grown up now and I've seen her many times since then but her crying over diplomacy is still how I picture her. Awesome game.

In any case you guys can totally trust me.

   145. mashimaro Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:06 PM (#4221908)
I'd have to make a new game to change anything.

I'll do it if others want me too.
   146. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:06 PM (#4221910)
We're all full up now.

How weird: that's what Shooty's Mom said.

EDIT: I'd be fine with a new game on the every-7-days schedule - I'm about to be in the mountains with minimal internetting for a few days, and would prefer to get destroyed on merit.
   147. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:08 PM (#4221914)
I'd have to make a new game to change anything.

I'll do it if others want me too.


I think it makes sense. With orders every 12 hours, we'll have too many missed orders, and no real time to correspond.
   148. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM (#4221915)
I'd have to make a new game to change anything.

I'll do it if others want me too.


I'd think that would be best. I've never played the game nor do I know what everyone else's schedule is like but at least a couple of days would probably be best.
   149. Gaelan Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:12 PM (#4221921)
It looks like having the ability to "finalize orders" is the default setting. That means you can set the deadline at, say, 7 days but the moves will still be processed when everyone has finalized their orders. I say create a new game with a 5 day deadline with the "finalize order" ability (aka the speed game) with 24 hour retreat phase and build deadlines to take into account different timezone and work schedules.

   150. Brian White Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:14 PM (#4221924)
Yeah, let's go ahead and do a new game. If everyone withdraws from that one, can it just be deleted?
   151. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4221926)
Yeah, let's go ahead and do a new game. If everyone withdraws from that one, can it just be deleted?

I can't withdraw, confirmed already. I think just start a new one.

Edit: I'm going to bed. Let me know what we're doing, and I'll sign up tomorrow.
   152. Langer Monk Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:16 PM (#4221929)
If there's room, or a 3rd game, I'd join up. I'd also need long time frames for orders. Haven't played in 20 years.
   153. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:19 PM (#4221930)
I went ahead and created a 3rd game.

BTF Diplomacy #3
password: baseball

I used Gaelan's suggestions
   154. Gaelan Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:21 PM (#4221931)
The password is baseball, lower case.
   155. Gaelan Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:22 PM (#4221933)
By the way I'm totally excited by this. Reading the new player's guide now.
   156. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:22 PM (#4221934)
Corrected.

If this takes off it will be a whole new chapter on BTF's Wiki Gonzalez page.

I've pulled out of #2. Cue Fred Lynn.
   157. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4221935)
IN for #3.
I don't know what any of the words in Gaelan's suggestions mean, but I will spend tonight finding out, I guess.
   158. mashimaro Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4221936)
Go to BTF Diplomacy #3

password is baseball

(i didn't create it though)


coke is it!
   159. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4221938)
Alright so who am I partnering up with as subordinate #1? I'm perfectly willing to take up the lackey role in my first ever game to learn the ropes.
   160. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4221939)
It looks like we're just waiting for Snapper who went to bad or for someone else to join.
   161. Gaelan Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4221940)
Looks like we're just waiting for Snapper. You should all know that he's a Jeapardy champion which means you must turn on him before he turns on you.
   162. McCoy Posted: August 29, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4221941)
Well, I guess that is who I'm going to be a stooge for then. ;)
   163. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: August 30, 2012 at 01:03 AM (#4221988)
Do your jockeying for position in-game.

They have players' guides now? Wow. I'm just going off memory and instinct.
   164. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 30, 2012 at 01:13 AM (#4221990)
It looks like we're just waiting for Snapper who went to bad . . .

Snapper was good in the beginning, when did he go too far?


   165. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 08:06 AM (#4222032)
1 spot left. Snapper better wake up soon.
   166. Paul D(uda) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 08:18 AM (#4222036)
Sorry to be a little late, but you guys might be interested in Twilight Struggle, a Cold War simulation game. It's only 2 players, which I think is a minus, but everything else about it is pretty good. It's not about building up armies, it's about setting up conditions to wipe out communism (or capitalism). The early game is heavily weighted towards the Communists - I"ve only played a few times, but I haven't seen Capitalism win yet.
   167. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 09:16 AM (#4222094)
1 spot left. Snapper better wake up soon.

I'm in.
   168. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 09:17 AM (#4222097)
Snapper has arisen. Behold the beautiful day.
   169. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 09:20 AM (#4222100)
Snapper has arisen. Behold the beautiful day.

Hey, the only reason I'm not a top-20 monster is that I like to sleep in.
   170. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 09:22 AM (#4222106)
I would imagine Axis & Aliies could be played via email as well. Do they also have sites for that?

Now that you've joined you have to go back and confirm.
   171. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 09:24 AM (#4222112)
Now that you've joined you have to go back and confirm.

Done.
   172. Paul D(uda) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 10:57 AM (#4222257)

Boardgamegeek has a ton of games by email or forum on their site. I suspect A&A is there.
   173. Shrike Posted: August 30, 2012 at 11:11 AM (#4222288)
When you guys have graduated from Diplomacy to a real game for adults, let me know. Republic of Rome is the true masterpiece of the political genre of boardgames.
   174. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: August 30, 2012 at 11:15 AM (#4222297)
Sorry to be a little late, but you guys might be interested in Twilight Struggle, a Cold War simulation game. It's only 2 players, which I think is a minus, but everything else about it is pretty good. It's not about building up armies, it's about setting up conditions to wipe out communism (or capitalism). The early game is heavily weighted towards the Communists - I"ve only played a few times, but I haven't seen Capitalism win yet.


I own a copy and have only gotten to play once or twice. It's a great game, but yes, battling to a draw with the US is a great result.
   175. Shrike Posted: August 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM (#4222315)
Twilight Struggle is awesome. There's even a good sequel to it, 1989, that was published this year.
   176. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 11:27 AM (#4222320)
When you guys have graduated from Diplomacy to a real game for adults, let me know. Republic of Rome is the true masterpiece of the political genre of boardgames.

Checked it out and that site will lead you to another site where you can play a clone of Axis & Allies via email.

If anyone is interested in playing a game of A&A via email let me know and we can set something up. It's been awhile but I used to play it a lot.
   177. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM (#4222353)
If anyone is interested in playing a game of A&A via email let me know and we can set something up. It's been awhile but I used to play it a lot.

I used to play a lot too. I think I'd be up for it.
   178. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 11:51 AM (#4222369)
I used to play a lot too. I think I'd be up for it.

I took a look at the clone. It isn't as slick looking as the actual board game or officially licensed computer game but it appears to work fine. Signing up for a game involves either sending out email invites or simply joining a game. There are no passwords all games are open to the public to play though it doesn't look like that would be much of an issue.

It would be nice to get 5 people lined up for a game. So I'm in, Snapper is in, anyone else in?
   179. zenbitz Posted: August 30, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4222786)
Twilight Struggle is good. I have a few of games in this sub-type of card-driven point-to-point move war games. I always liked the ACW "For the People". I also have WWI (Paths Of Glory) and Empire of the Sun (WW2 PTO). They are slightly more complex than Twilight Struggle.

I wonder if there is a new(er) Titan E-server... I used to play this back in the day. They reprinted the hard copy, it's much nicer.
   180. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4222939)
Game is up.

I'm Russia.
   181. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 04:59 PM (#4222953)
Who am I? I'm at work right now so I can't check in.
   182. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 05:02 PM (#4222956)
Who am I? I'm at work right now so I can't check in.

Turkey

Here's the whole roster:

Turkey McCoy
Germany Gaelan
France whitebg
England jigokumimi
Austria Juneyell
Italy alansternberg
Russia Snapper
   183. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: August 30, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4222962)
[practicing my Churchillian cadence, even now...]
   184. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 05:12 PM (#4222968)
We prefer the term Ottoman Empire, thank you very much. Do not annoy your neighbors to the south with slights like that.
   185. Langer Monk Posted: August 30, 2012 at 05:16 PM (#4222971)
It would be nice to get 5 people lined up for a game. So I'm in, Snapper is in, anyone else in?


Come Saturday, I'd be willing to play. A&A was a favorite of mine. Actually have the video game on CD still around here somewhere. Which site you find it at?
   186. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4222986)
If you go to the Boardgamegeek site there is a link to an email site I think it is called gamesbyemail.com or something like that lets you play a clone game called WWII or something like that.

I won't really be able to play this weekend but after this weekend my calendar will be freed up a bit.
   187. Langer Monk Posted: August 30, 2012 at 05:30 PM (#4222995)
Bookmarked.
   188. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: August 30, 2012 at 05:53 PM (#4223017)

We used to love Axis & Allies in high school, although I am pretty sure that we weren't playing by the official rules and the games would take forever. In college I built a simple computer version of the game for my final project in a computer science class. No idea whatever happened to that.
   189. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2012 at 08:32 PM (#4223097)
Just to let you all know. I'll be getting home in a few hours and I'll be sending out messages and filling in orders from that point.
   190. McCoy Posted: August 31, 2012 at 05:38 PM (#4224042)
I was definitely not built for the postal age. I can't imagine playing this game by mail.
   191. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: August 31, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4224113)
Game 1 roster:

Turkey: GregK
Austria: Arnett Mead
England: RTsquared
France: KaiserBrown
Italy: Adward
Russia: Shooty
Germany: Petunia

Who are RT, KB and Adward? I haven't matched scott or John R to in-game names.

Not sure who hasn't ordered yet but I'm guessing we probably don't see any progress til at least Tuesday, sadly.
   192. Adward Posted: August 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4224186)
I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam.
   193. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 31, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4224216)
I'm KaiserBrown.
   194. McCoy Posted: September 01, 2012 at 12:00 AM (#4224230)
We've got our sets up for 5 days per phase and I think the next time we play 2 or 3 days is probably best.
   195. McCoy Posted: September 01, 2012 at 01:06 AM (#4224257)
For you guys in the first game is the first phase twice as long as the deadline originally set?
   196. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: September 01, 2012 at 10:30 AM (#4224355)
I'm RTsquared in the original game.

And McCoy, yeah...it did the same thing for us.
   197. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 01, 2012 at 11:21 AM (#4224376)
We've got our sets up for 5 days per phase and I think the next time we play 2 or 3 days is probably best.

We can play faster than that. If we're all ready after 2 or 3 days, we can all finalize our orders, and it will process.
   198. zenbitz Posted: September 01, 2012 at 12:25 PM (#4224421)
There's a "sequel" to twilight struggle out now I saw in play at a con "1989"
   199. McCoy Posted: September 02, 2012 at 10:18 PM (#4225331)
Once tonight is over I'll have more free time and if these phases don't start moving along I think I am gonna go nuts.
   200. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: September 02, 2012 at 10:55 PM (#4225346)
Once tonight is over I'll have more free time and if these phases don't start moving along I think I am gonna go nuts.

SRSLY.
##########ers need to finalize their ##########ing MOVES, ##########er.
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