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But if I lose, I blaming you all for rushing me ;-)
Who won it and for what?
On our game I would say there has been only one confusing opening move.
Man, I wish I'd known there was a board-game thread going on.
You've found it!
EDIT: On our game I would say there has been only one confusing opening move.
I think I can guess which one you're referring to (probably best not to discuss the active game), but holy cow is that an exciting S01. There is a LOT going on.
Our game's S01 is MUCH more typical than yours'.
Our first game is at http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=48093
Our replacement game is at (well, will be) http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=48277
Your game is at http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=48112
My other game is at http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play.php?game_id=47835. I have Austria. Feel free to discuss that game here! In fact, if anyone cares (I can never tell; I'm such a nerd that I'm going to enjoy watching y'all's game, but other people may not find games they're not participating in interesting), I'm going to try something tricky in F01 that I'm a little bit proud of. No telling if it'll come off, though; Russia's being... difficult.
BTF Diplomacy III
password: baseball
number: 48321
Order deadline every 2 days.
Now that's going to be confusing. Are you history's 173rd greatest monster?
sorry about that. i don't think it'll be that confusing ... once the game's started, it'll be easier to refer to people in terms of their nations.
Just joking around. Different game anyway.
I expected a "Lord Palmerston" "Pitt the Elder" comment in the first 5 posts, and then a digression to 19th century European politics or the Simpsons.
We can keep it all straight here.
Game 1 ("BTF Diplomacy Take 2")
http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=48277
Austria: Arnett Mead
England: RTsquared (John R)
France: KaiserBrown (scott)
Germany: Petunia
Italy: Adward
Russia: Shooty
Turkey: GregK
(NOTE: Partial S01 results can be found at http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=48093)
Game 2 ("BTF Diplomacy #3")
http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=48112
Austria: Juneyell
England: jigokumimi
France: whitebg
Germany: Gaelan
Italy: alansternberg
Russia: Snapper
Turkey: McCoy
Game 3 ("BTF Diplomacy III")
http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=48321
(NOTE: This particular link will not work until the game is active)
Players so far:
McCoy
LangerMonk
snappy173 (chris p)
I'd join the 3rd game happily but the site only lets you participate in 3 games at once (without paying for a membership) so until our first aborted attempt goes away, I'm stuck.
It looks like everybody's confirmed the 2nd 1st game so we all need to re-enter and finalize our S01 orders. See above for link to the initial game in case you forgot what you ordered.
"You can change your orders after you finalize up until the last person finalizes.
So if people know what they want to do there isn't a lot of danger in finalizing your orders. If the diplomatic situation changes, or you just change your mind, you can change your moves up until the last person finalizes.
If you are the last person to finalize your moves the computer will process them. Which is ok because then the situation can't change.
So to make a long story short, I recommend that we finalize our moves when we can. We can still take our time to make sure we communicate with everyone without necessarily taking 5 days between moves.
...
I think our policy should be that it is always ok to wait. We have real lives after all and this is supposed to be fun. No one should feel pressure to rush.
However, once you've decided you should finalize. There is no reason to go days between moves if it can be avoided. "
[Edit] I'd join the third game as well, but I joined two other games to practice since I'd never played a real game before. Those games aren't as fun though because someone has disappeared/or not entered moves in both of them. Now both times they were my neighbours so I'm doing quite well but that's mostly luck.
Also I've had more messages in one turn in the BTF game than through two years of those games combined. The BTF game is fun even though we've only had one turn (though maybe it could go a little faster) but the other games have been too easy for my tastes.
agree with this. HOWEVER ... if you are a jackass that likes to play metagames with the time limits by always being the last person to finalize ... well, i'd like to believe that you'd be punished in-game. seriously, don't be that guy.
The third game should move a lot faster once it gets going. Turns are limited to two days in that setup.
I would like to hear a little more chatter from some of the players in our first game but it is what it is. Hopefully they are just busy and will be getting back to me soon.
Gaelan, you joined BTF Diplomacy III?
Concur.
I'll join if you need bodies.
Since this thread started, I've begun organizing a real life game with several of my friends in a few weekends. There will be marriages to screw with!
Playing this in person would seem kind of fun but also cumbersome. Writing out orders for 10 units and then everybody issuing the orders 10 minutes later and have it all be correct seems like a huge pain in the butt. Plus what do people do during the discussion phase of the game? Leave the room in clumps of people? Write furiously?
Cool. Just waiting on confirmations and we're good to go.
It's awesome in person. 1. You get to see their faces when you stab them in the back. 2. Trying to communicate secretly and trying to manipulate the obvious public conversations is all part of the fun.
Ideally it's a good game for a weekend at the lake or something. Make orders due every hour or some-such, then enjoy the weekend, mixing personal and game conversation. It stretches out the paranoia for days!
McCoy, I replied to your message.
Down to just one confirmation left and we'll get our countries and roll from there. Should be a much faster game than the precious ones.
For someone who was an avid Diplomacy player in his youth, a 7 is a fairly large party....or maybe that's just me.
Another fun way to do it is online or e-mail weekly turn game among friends. In one game I was in an alliance that wasn't really helping my game much simply because I enjoyed having pints with the guy every Friday to discuss strategy.
You can be my Consigliere if you want. That way you can still screw over Shooty, and keep your hands clean ;-)
Get together may be more accurate. I guess these days when I think party I think dinner party more quickly than rager. I'm oooold.
... or 10 ... the one time i hosted a live game, russia had a few too many and ended up passed out on my couch.
or, if you're really and truly ######, you just sit there staring at the board. maybe you rock back and forth, mutter something incomprehensible, or drown your sorrows in alcohol.
We had one game where every player had a liquor from their nation. We were a bit stumped for Turkey, so got Wild Turkey Whiskey, which was pretty terrible. It was customary for every pact (real or feigned) to be sealed with an exchange of national beverages.
I'm not sure in how many games a Convoy from Constantinople gets to Wales.
I was Russia, Turkey was my Brother, Italy is our friend. We ended up with a 3 way draw after France and Germany surrendered.
eta: Wait, nope. I was Germany. We ended up backstabbing Russia, my cousin. Looking back at the orders, Austria was dead by 1903.
Just looked at the Rules under Glossary, and for Abandoned, it says this:
I don't know who the judge is, but it seems like there's a mechanism to replace.
Cool.
Now I'm Italy. It went from bad to worse!
You need to get a debilitating medical condition like me, so you can work from home ;-)
Italy: McCoy
England: Langer Monk
Russia: Chris P
Austria: RTsquared
Germany: Shooty
Turkey: Snapper
France: KaiserBrown
ITALY McCoy
ENGLAND LangerMonk
RUSSIA snappy173
AUSTRIA RTsquared
GERMANY ShootyBabbitt
TURKEY Snapper
FRANCE KaiserBrown
Edit: D'oh, Coke to McCoy
Oh, I can't. I'm going to lose both games badly.
Though once you've played enough games it's pretty easy to see what's going on from a quick look on the board. Russia and Turkey not fighting over the Black Sea after 1 turn? Probably friendly. Trieste and Venice both empty after 1 turn? Austria and Italy are likely friendly.
I also find that telling the truth generally stands you in better stead than lying a lot. Some lying is simply going to happen, but the more you tell the truth the more likely people are to both trust your alliance offers (and thus not bungle things by not fully investing in the alliance) and the more likely people are to believe you when you're about to backstab them.
The great thing is, the site doesn't attach names to countries except from outside the game, so I actually only vaguely know who I'm dealing with. I've made a bit of a point of not finding out. The big reveal in the endgame when I finally know who I've been talking to is going to be fun.
Re the earlier question - yes, replacement players are commonplace on that site. You can advertise for one in the forums.
Gaelan - I was reading your post, thinking that was well said. I was going to cut and paste your words and use them. Then I realized they were my own words.
Yes, well, I thought it was well said too!
And I'm not going to hold someone's actions against me in one game against him in later games. However, I will use that information to determine how trustworthy I find him to be.
I'm only in one, I do it pretty much only *while* I'm at work, and it's already a bit of a problem with my productivity, ha.
Yeah, I've been thinking of people only in terms of their nations. It helps to have only interacted with maybe one or two of your on BBTF prior to this game, so I don't really have preconceived notions/opinions anyway, so I don't really remember the BBTF usernames of most of the players to begin with.
Yeah, this is pretty nice. I'd have liked to be two different countries, but it'll be really interesting to see how things work differently in each game given the same start.
Do the first few turns generally follow the same path?
I mean, there are definitely some commonalities. Like, I don't know, in games where Greece is captured by W01, I'd guess like 70% of the time it's held by Austria. Things like that.
But I bet if you compared the opening play in each of the first 2 BBTF games, none of the 7 players played the same moves, even as simple as the first turn might seem.
It helps to have only interacted with maybe one or two of your on BBTF prior to this game, so I don't really have preconceived notions/opinions anyway, so I don't really remember the BBTF usernames of most of the players to begin with.
Agree with this as well. The only thing I really know about anyone in my game is something to do with Shooty's mom. And that's not all that helpful.
Just did mine.
How about Game 3?
so there is a game III and a game 3? what's next, game three?
Yes, Suboptimal.
Anyway the game should be finalizing the moves now as there is no time left on the timer.
How do I see the "1st" game?
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