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Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Man killed following argument over Blue Jays pitching staff

Don’t tell me this was over a ‘Down goes Frasor’ comment or something.

Police say a man who died from an “alleged sucker” punch outside a Calgary bar had been in an argument over the Toronto Blue Jays’ pitching staff moments before he was struck.

Brian Ludwig, a 41-year-old father, died in hospital after the fight early Sunday morning following a charity golf tournament. Ludwig had been at the pub as part of the fundraiser.

Police say they were called to the pub at about 2:50 a.m. Sunday morning.

Ludwig was transported to hospital, where he died.

...The fight began over a disagreement about baseball, police told the Calgary paper Tuesday.

“It was in regards to pitchers in the (Toronto) Blue Jays,” said Staff Sgt. Doug Andrus of the homicide unit.

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   401. Lassus Posted: September 12, 2012 at 06:14 AM (#4233410)
If there was ever a thread that belonged in the Lounge, this is most definitely it.
   402. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:19 AM (#4233417)
I got your Lounge right here.
   403. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 09:41 AM (#4233501)
If there was ever a thread that belonged in the Lounge, this is most definitely it.

How is this any more OT than soccer, politics, football and basketball?
   404. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 01:43 PM (#4233856)
Everyone stab Lassus!
   405. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 01:46 PM (#4233864)
Everyone stab Lassus!

I don't think he's in the games, you'll have to call in Sam H.
   406. Langer Monk Posted: September 12, 2012 at 04:56 PM (#4234135)
Do we have to wait the full 24 hours on retreat phase, or has someone (many ones) not finalized orders in Game III?
   407. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4234163)
McCoy sends very hostile messages ingame.
   408. McCoy Posted: September 12, 2012 at 05:38 PM (#4234172)
I do not.
   409. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 06:04 PM (#4234192)
You're Italy in game III, right? You send some pretty bellicose messages.
   410. McCoy Posted: September 12, 2012 at 06:48 PM (#4234224)
I do not.
   411. McCoy Posted: September 12, 2012 at 06:56 PM (#4234228)
Russia quit in game iii.
   412. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4234252)
Russia quit in game iii.

How do you know?

   413. Greg K Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:20 PM (#4234253)
Russia quit in game iii.

He was probably put off by your brusque comminiques.
   414. McCoy Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:31 PM (#4234269)
Bellicose, my man, bellicose.
   415. McCoy Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4234273)
I did say that Russia was dead but he just didn't know it yet. Apparently he did.
   416. Gaelan Posted: September 12, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4234345)
That III game is crazy. I'm dying to make some kind of comment.
   417. McCoy Posted: September 14, 2012 at 10:29 AM (#4235632)
1 hour to go until #3 finally moves.
   418. McCoy Posted: September 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM (#4235739)
Here we go.
   419. McCoy Posted: September 14, 2012 at 02:09 PM (#4235948)
England is rapidly turning into the dad on South Park during the Warhammer episode.
   420. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 04:02 PM (#4236080)
England is rapidly turning into the dad on South Park during the Warhammer episode.

Whooooosh!

Right over my head
   421. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 08:13 PM (#4236243)
Well, that's what I get for being lazy/honest.
   422. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: September 14, 2012 at 08:18 PM (#4236245)
I wonder what Gaelan thinks of Game III now?
   423. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: September 14, 2012 at 08:44 PM (#4236259)
England is rapidly turning into the dad on South Park during the Warhammer episode.

[quietly]
I'm not an r-tard.

[pause]

[dies]
   424. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 14, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4236271)
Well, that's what I get for being lazy/honest.

Who are you in the game, Scott?
   425. Gaelan Posted: September 14, 2012 at 09:35 PM (#4236283)
I wonder what Gaelan thinks of Game III now?


Yeah, you could see that coming a mile away.
   426. McCoy Posted: September 14, 2012 at 10:45 PM (#4236298)
Who are you in the game, Scott?

France
   427. Langer Monk Posted: September 14, 2012 at 10:54 PM (#4236304)
I did apologize.
   428. McCoy Posted: September 14, 2012 at 11:42 PM (#4236323)
Did you send him a basket?
   429. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 15, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4236654)
Wow!
   430. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM (#4237204)
So, is Austria surrendered yet in III?
   431. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 16, 2012 at 05:46 PM (#4237422)
That's #3, not III (unless you're making a joke), and nope, doesn't look like it. I'm going to bring that position back from the brink, though, as soon as he does.

III just keeps getting better. The chat in that game is verging on vicious.
   432. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 16, 2012 at 08:05 PM (#4237505)
That's #3, not III (unless you're making a joke), and nope, doesn't look like it. I'm going to bring that position back from the brink, though, as soon as he does.

Sorry, yes, #3. It's just a wee bit confusing.
   433. Gaelan Posted: September 16, 2012 at 10:30 PM (#4237582)
That's #3, not III (unless you're making a joke), and nope, doesn't look like it. I'm going to bring that position back from the brink, though, as soon as he does.

III just keeps getting better. The chat in that game is verging on vicious.


I wish I was in that game. I'm find the Italy--France trash talking amusing for reasons that should be obvious.

I'm about to win one of the other games I'm in (well draw but only because I find killing loyal puppies difficult). Is there interest in starting up another game. The BTF game I'm in is sloooowwwwwww. The games with "strangers" I played didn't have a lot of interaction. So I'm hoping if I set up a BTF game with faster settings (say 2 days, no weekends) it will be both conversational and quicker.
   434. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM (#4237583)
I'd provisionally love to join another BTF game. I'm committing myself to take over the abandoned Austria position in #3 for the greater good... if it ever actually opens up.

I got lucky. My public game has been a thrill, and I've made a couple of good friends and what appears to be a lifelong enemy. Very interesting game.

2 days/24/24 no weekends is perfect, I think. I'd love to draw France or Russia.
   435. McCoy Posted: September 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM (#4237584)
Yes, #3 is very slow and if this keeps up I'm probably going to drop out of it so I'm up for another BTF game at a faster pace.

   436. McCoy Posted: September 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM (#4237586)
2 days/24/24 no weekends is perfect, I think. I'd love to draw France or Russia.

Well, Russia is the most likely nation to win the game so I don't think there are too many people that wouldn't mind drawing Russia.

I would just like to draw a nation that isn't one of the two most likely to not win the game once in awhile. I don't think that is too much to ask.
   437. Gaelan Posted: September 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM (#4237593)
In my first public game I played as Italy, allied with Austria and we crushed Turkey with me getting all the Turkey centers and Greece. From there he went against Russia while I outfoxed France. The only difficulty was keeping Russia from turning Austria against me. I could win the game as a solo fairly easily, I have 14 centers now and England in a vise grip but it's almost too easy, so I'm going to settle for the 2-way draw.

The other game I was Turkey and Russia was the only person that talked to me. So we set up a little deal and then Austria and Italy disappeared. So we rolled over them while England and France stabbed Germany in the back. Russia was piling up centers so fast that when he he was set up from Tyrolia to Berlin with only one unit in behind I had no choice to set up a little stab on a turn when I was about to get three builds. He would have gotten a solo without having to betray me. It was a neat little play but it probably won't work because it looks like France is going to side with Russia against me. If so I'll have to try and force a three way draw. Russia was pretty disappointed with me.

Besides the lack of conversation, what I don't like about these games is this the forging of permanent alliances. Things get set in stone in the beginning and then they play out to their inevitable result. I think I'd prefer a more free flowing game where anything can happen. The competition was so weak, or in some instances, non existent that it wasn't very dynamic. For instance this last turn was the first time in either game I had to support a hold.
   438. McCoy Posted: September 16, 2012 at 11:00 PM (#4237597)
Axis and Allies online used to be a lot worse. You'd play with a bunch of strangers and you'd know who was going to win or lose after Germany and Russia played or at the very least by the end of Japan's turn in the first round.
   439. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4237620)
Well, Russia is the most likely nation to win the game

I did not know that. Is that true?

I believe that I have never played Russia. So far this time I have drawn Austria, Germany, and if I take over juneyell's position, Austria again.

Gaelan, I'm going to check out your games. I spend enough time refreshing pages on playdip.com that I might as well expand my list of watched games.

The competition was so weak, or in some instances, non existent that it wasn't very dynamic.

From perusing their forums, it appears that the only way to play in consistently interesting public games is to finish a couple games and then apply to join their 'Classicist' group.

Again I've been lucky that my public game experience has been rewarding. Nobody has NMR'd that wasn't already playing a blown position, and I've managed to drum up plenty of conversation from the other four powers.
   440. Gaelan Posted: September 16, 2012 at 11:48 PM (#4237628)
Game 48092: I'm Italy. This one didn't have any critical NMR's. Turkey early on, but he was cooked. It sped things up a bit so I did gain a little step. Other than that, everyone has played their part. I won this with tactics.

Game 48107: I'm Turkey. Austria and Italy both NMR'd early so Turkey and Russia just rolled right over them. I'm pretty proud of the stab I arranged to screw Russia. He would have marched to an easy victory. However, he's in the process of throwing the game to France in his retreat to defend his home centers. So I'll have the most centers when it all plays out but I might not be strong enough to fight France and Russia working together. I'm still not sure I did the right thing with the stab. If I didn't Russia would have run right over Europe while I was stuck fighting through the Mediterranean. However, now that I did, it looks like I'm still going to lose unless I can pull some tactical maneuvers out of my hat. I tried to get Russia to keep working with me after I attacked him. It sounded like it might have worked but I wouldn't make any concessions and he got pissed. People keep want me to give them centers I've already conquered. I don't see why I should do that to get them to cooperate. That just makes them stronger and hence they need my help less.

So long story short, France is going to win even though he didn't do much in the whole game other than stab Germany in the back, which let Russia conquer half the board.

Still the games were fun. I just want a little more competition and conversation. I think I'm going to try a soloist game. They seem a little dogmatic but it might be interesting to see how free wheeling those games are.
   441. Langer Monk Posted: September 17, 2012 at 12:18 AM (#4237648)
Is there interest in starting up another game.


I'd be happy to join a 2d one. Playing three at once won't ever work for me, but I don't see why 2 won't. Even if Gaelan's in more games now than I've ever even completed.
   442. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 09:22 AM (#4237763)
I did not know that. Is that true?

In the 70's and in the early 80's the few books written on Diplomacy all state that the stats of recorded games put Russia as winning about 15% of the time and Italy at the bottom and winning 7% of the time or so. Regardless of the exact % Russia is the leader and no one is really close and Italy is in last and no one else is close.

Since the internet has come along I've found a few sites that list France and Russia as being the two most likely to win and Italy still at the bottom.
   443. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 09:42 AM (#4237780)
I'd be happy to join a 2d one.

I'd join a third.
   444. Dan Evensen Posted: September 17, 2012 at 09:48 AM (#4237784)
I save most of my board game geeking for Strat-o-Matic and Skeetersoft (especially NP3). However, I like a good strategic board game every now and then.

World in Flames has been on my "to buy" list for about a year and a half now. One day I'll actually get around to buying it, and maybe I'll eventually find somebody crazy enough to try it out with me.

I don't care at all for Risk, nor do I like Monopoly. My family really enjoys Settlers, which is fun now and then.

EDIT: By the way, Toasting in Epic Bread. Even if I didn't participate.
   445. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: September 17, 2012 at 10:13 AM (#4237806)
If we get another one started, I'll abandon my non-BTF game (where the only messages have been regarding a player with multiple accounts being banned).
   446. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM (#4237812)
Why did you abandon the BTF game you are already currently playing? At least you could have hit surrender so that we could have gotten someone else to move the game along. Right now the game can't move until the deadline because you haven't hit finalize orders.
   447. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: September 17, 2012 at 11:51 AM (#4237898)
Why did you abandon the BTF game you are already currently playing? At least you could have hit surrender so that we could have gotten someone else to move the game along. Right now the game can't move until the deadline because you haven't hit finalize orders.

I'm Austria in our mutual game. You need to seek out Russia and ask that...
   448. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM (#4237903)
Sorry about that. I was thinking of the other game going that had Austria vanishing.
   449. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: September 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM (#4237909)
Nah...in the other BTF game I'm playing, I'm the idiot Brit who lost London in 1901.
   450. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: September 17, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4237940)
I'm Austria in our mutual game. You need to seek out Russia and ask that...

Russia will be gone after tonight's move, thankfully. That should speed the game up.
   451. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 12:40 PM (#4237947)
Nm
   452. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:20 PM (#4238187)
Damn. In my public game, we've been waiting for some clown who abandoned the position, and due to some mixups between two other players' orders, he's now going to survive another year but has auto surrendered.

Any of you guys willing to help me out and join this game just to submit holds (and finalize orders) for 2 turns until you're eliminated? I would greatly appreciate it.

The game is 47835 Diplomacy Rocks.
   453. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:27 PM (#4238199)
I'll join a 3rd game as well, seeing as I'm likely to get bounced out of III pretty soon.
   454. Langer Monk Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4238215)
Any of you guys willing to help me out and join this game just to submit holds (and finalize orders) for 2 turns until you're eliminated? I would greatly appreciate it.


I would, for that purpose, but I don't see the option.

I'll join a 3rd game as well, seeing as I'm likely to get bounced out of III pretty soon.


Anyone willing to create what would be Game IV, I guess? If not, I can tonight.
   455. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4238216)
The game is 47835 Diplomacy Rocks.

Looks like you are full up.

I'll join a 3rd game as well, seeing as I'm likely to get bounced out of III pretty soon.

You and me both.
   456. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:39 PM (#4238224)
BTF Diplomacy IV is now up.

Please only join if you intend to play or at least have the courtesy to hit the surrender button before walking away.
   457. Langer Monk Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:40 PM (#4238225)
Password?
   458. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:41 PM (#4238227)
sent you an email of the password.
   459. Langer Monk Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:43 PM (#4238229)
Thanks. I pledge to either win, or surrender.
   460. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:45 PM (#4238238)
Somebody filled my opening (har har). Thanks anyway.

McCoy, will you email me the password for IV as well? Thanks.

Shouldn't you have named it 'Game C' or something along those lines, though?
   461. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4238241)
Shouldn't you have named it 'Game C' or something along those lines, though?

that would have been too clever by half.

email was sent.
   462. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:50 PM (#4238245)
I'm in if you send the password, McCoy.
   463. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4238259)
email sent.
   464. Gaelan Posted: September 17, 2012 at 03:59 PM (#4238260)
I'll join as well, however I can't for 12 to 24 hours, depending upon how long my last game takes to finish up. So send me the password and save me a spot.

Also while it doesn't really matter, for future games I think DIAS (draws include all survivors) is a superior setting for games. I believe it will force people to play for the solo victory.

Also a pledge to fight to the bitter end is important. I so pledge.
   465. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:01 PM (#4238263)
Do emails take a long time through BTF?
   466. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:02 PM (#4238266)
Would someone ping me the PW as well?
   467. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:06 PM (#4238271)
Gaelan, password is sent.

RT, apparently I have to wait 5 minutes to send another email.
   468. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:07 PM (#4238272)
No sign of your email, McCoy. Checked my email and settings on BTF; they look good.

Mind trying again? Or maybe Langer or Petunia can forward?
   469. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:08 PM (#4238275)
The only thing I have against DIAS is that some little nation with 2 or 3 centers can keep a stalemate going for a long time if the centers are strategically located. Granted that can make for some interesting gameplay but I think if the leading powers get tired of the game it should end.
   470. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:10 PM (#4238277)
Mind trying again? Or maybe Langer or Petunia can forward?

I'll send again but it is going to be like 10 minutes or so.
   471. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:11 PM (#4238279)

I'll send again but it is going to be like 10 minutes or so.


Take your time, as long as you don't send to 6 others ;-)
   472. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4238280)
Actually, if I email you through the site, will that give you my address so you can send direct?

Edit: just emailed you. You should be able to reply now w/o waiting.
   473. Gaelan Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:14 PM (#4238283)
In the past when I've sent emails through BTF my success rate has been only around 2/3rds.

The reason I like DIAS, is precisely that it forces alliances of two to play against each other in the end-game because if the small powers are going to be eliminated then one of them is going to get to 18 centers to win the game. So it does prolong the game but in a way that is in the spirit of the game. It forces people to play for the win sooner or later, which in turn creates more opportunity for betrayal, which in turn gives the smaller powers more reason to stick it out.

   474. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4238286)
All email have been sent off.

If for whatever reason you did not get one an email address that I can be reached at is bobonewsom@yahoo.com


Gaelan,

don't disagree with your thinking. Just trying something new out.
   475. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4238292)
All email have been sent off.

If for whatever reason you did not get one an email address that I can be reached it is bobonewsom@yahoo.com


No emails yet. Just emailed you at that address.
   476. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4238293)
I got it at Bobo.
   477. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4238295)
I'm in!
   478. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:04 PM (#4238334)
Players so far:
McCoy
LangerMonk
Snapper
Petunia

Which is cool because I'm not in the other game with any of the 3 of you.

Saving a spot for Gaelan...

I'll try to email RTSquared
   479. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:13 PM (#4238347)

Saving a spot for Gaelan...

I'll try to email RTSquared


Shooty is a good option if we need somebody. He's not a flake.
   480. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:14 PM (#4238348)
I'd be interested in another game if you'll have me.
   481. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4238352)
Oi! I want in on IV!
   482. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:20 PM (#4238355)
Sent Arjun an email and I think another guy as well. So that makes 7 if all join in.

If you sent me an email just now asking to play add a post to this thread so I know who you are.

If not then Scott gets the nod.
   483. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4238359)
I emailed! For the password to IV.
I would like to play in a game that moves more than once a week.
   484. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4238360)
Okay, I'll join when given the option. The email that I use for my BBTF email takes a bit of time to get to my other email (it's re-routed, thanks university email). I'm definitely up for it, as soon as the email is forwarded.
   485. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:27 PM (#4238365)
I emailed! For the password to IV.
I would like to play in a game that moves more than once a week


ARe the initials GR to your email?

Arjun, you might be better off emailing Bobonewsom@yahoo.com
   486. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4238366)
Yes, FLNRSA is also GR.

EDIT: joined! Hail Freedonia!
   487. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4238368)
You should be seeing your email soon then.
   488. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:33 PM (#4238375)
Joined! thanks a ton!
   489. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:35 PM (#4238376)
Alright we're up to 6 with Gaelan saying he'll join within a day. If he doesn't and if Scott still wants to join then he is up for the last spot.

Good luck and may all of us get a nation we haven't played recently.
   490. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:48 PM (#4238399)
Once the game is set up let me know which one it is so I can keep an eye on it.
   491. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 05:57 PM (#4238404)
One question McCoy, is the don't process deadlines on weekends wise?

Does that mean a retreat or build phase that falls on a w/e now takes 3 days?
   492. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 06:01 PM (#4238408)
I have no idea. It was something Gaelan suggested so I'm trying it out. I would hope if it is true that the don't process on weekends applies to builds and retreats that when this does happen we all quickly finalize our orders.

If I had to guess I would say that if we all finalize our orders that the phase will still get processed on the weekend like normal.
   493. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 06:07 PM (#4238414)
If I had to guess I would say that if we all finalize our orders that the phase will still get processed on the weekend like normal.

Oh OK, that would be much better. I'd just hate to sit for 3 days to see one army retreat.
   494. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4238427)
Yeah, the turns run if you finalize your orders. It's just nice so that if someone is away for the weekend they don't have a build/retreat phase run without them.
   495. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 17, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4238437)
Correct. Don't process on weekends just means that for a deadline that would otherwise fall on a weekend, 48 hrs is added to the turn timer. As with all turns, if everyone finalizes (or in the case of retreats and builds, if everyone who needs to enter orders finalizes), the turn will process.

At least that's my understanding.

Once it starts, IV can be found at http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play.php?game_id=48769
   496. Gaelan Posted: September 17, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4238442)
I'm hoping to join tomorrow. I have a game whose latest order phase ends at midnight. At that point the lone draw resistor will have been eliminated and we can proceed with the draw that has been offered multiple times, and I can join.

I really hope we wait since starting game #4 was my idea ...

The idea behind not processing orders on weekends was to avoid a repeat of what happened in our other game when someone was offered a last minute weekend trip to the mountains etc. where cell phone coverage was absent. As a result they missed out the build phase and it's completely changed the dynamic of the game. But yes, finalize quickly, especially with builds and retreats which shouldn't require consultation.
   497. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 17, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4238452)
Game 48092: WOW. 12 hrs per turn. I'd never make it. You retreated to London. That's hilarious. Looking back, if you had stabbed Austria for BUL that turn, you'd have the solo this turn (you're on 14 plus LON, HOL, and LVP is indefensible). In fact, it looks like you and Austria have been playing nice for long enough that you can simply sneak a solo by ordering to BUL for your 18th. You'd only have trouble if he sees it coming and bounces you.

Matter of fact, I don't believe he can stop your solo. CON-BUL, Pie-Tyr, Ion-Adr. You should be able to peel off TRI or BUL before he gets his forces in place, since he has no builds this turn, and even if somehow that goes wrong you have enough fleets up north to take one more center off Russia before they can stop you.

The real question is how you convinced England and Russia to reject all the proposed 2-way draws for you and Austria!

Game 48107: I don't think the situation is nearly as bad as you described. Russia's going to lose an assload of units and you're in better position to clean him up than E/F. Doesn't seem like they'll get more than 1 build each and they're way far from the action.

EDIT: You posted while I was writing. I don't think you should draw that game. You have the solo in the bag.
   498. McCoy Posted: September 17, 2012 at 07:44 PM (#4238496)
That was a big old dud.
   499. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: September 17, 2012 at 08:09 PM (#4238520)
France and Italy are about to begin the greatest joint comeback in the history of Diplomacy in III.
   500. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: September 17, 2012 at 08:57 PM (#4238541)
The French/Italian alliance IS called "The Ultimate"
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