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Friday, August 22, 2014

Manny Machado Likely Out For Season

Pearce leads the team in WAR, have we mentioned that?

Orioles third baseman Manny Machado is likely out for the rest of the season, Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports tweets. He will have knee surgery at some point within the next week…

Machado’s absence will be tough for the Orioles, who currently are 73-53 and atop the AL East. Machado has hit .278/.324/.431 this season, and as usual has contributed plenty of value with his defense… The Orioles could respond by moving Chris Davis to third base and having Steve Pearce play first, Steve Melewski of MASNsports.com suggests (via Twitter).

The District Attorney Posted: August 22, 2014 at 06:25 PM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: injuries, manny machado, orioles

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   1. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: August 22, 2014 at 06:52 PM (#4777488)
Seems this year has been a rough year in terms of big injuries to the game's most exciting young players.
   2. Davo Dozier Posted: August 22, 2014 at 06:52 PM (#4777489)
That makes me wanna Schoop.
   3. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 22, 2014 at 06:58 PM (#4777492)
The Orioles could respond by moving Chris Davis to third base
Really? He can do that?
   4. Davo Dozier Posted: August 22, 2014 at 07:07 PM (#4777497)
Davis has played like 5 games at third this year, iirc.
   5. Bug Selig Posted: August 22, 2014 at 07:10 PM (#4777499)
Tim Brown was last seen skipping a wildly hurled bat and the doctor is suffering concussion symptoms after an unfortunate and completely unconvincing accident.

   6. Justin T., Director of Somethin Posted: August 22, 2014 at 07:17 PM (#4777501)
Awww, so sad.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: August 22, 2014 at 07:20 PM (#4777502)
This just adds to my impression that I'm not sure I can remember a less-inspiring playoff team than the O's. Adam Jones is a pretty exciting player but pretty much everybody else is pretty blah. The rotation is all guys with 100 ERA+ that don't strike many out (by today's standards) and the bullpen are Zach Britton and Darren O'Day (I know, O'Day's been quite good for a while but, c'mon, Darren O'Day is just not a name that impresses).

So presumably they'll win it all.
   8. A New Leaf (Black Hawk Reign of Terror) Posted: August 22, 2014 at 07:22 PM (#4777504)
I'm still annoyed the Angels let O'Day go on the basis of just being, like, too lazy to keep him, or something.
   9. Curse of the Andino Posted: August 22, 2014 at 07:28 PM (#4777506)
Davis has played like 5 games at third this year, iirc.


9 so far, and he's been starting a lot there since Machado got hurt.
   10. Curse of the Andino Posted: August 22, 2014 at 07:32 PM (#4777508)
This just adds to my impression that I'm not sure I can remember a less-inspiring playoff team than the O's. Adam Jones is a pretty exciting player but pretty much everybody else is pretty blah. The rotation is all guys with 100 ERA+ that don't strike many out (by today's standards) and the bullpen are Zach Britton and Darren O'Day (I know, O'Day's been quite good for a while but, c'mon, Darren O'Day is just not a name that impresses).

So presumably they'll win it all.


Your lips to god's ears. There are shades of the most valuable position of '79, when Lowenstein/Roenicke/Ayala combined hit 300 with 40 hrs while playing left. These days it's Pearce/Delmon Young and of course Nelson Cruz giving insane production out of there. Except Pearce plays a lot 1b as well, so not that great an analogy.
   11. Chris Fluit Posted: August 22, 2014 at 08:06 PM (#4777513)
Very sad news.
   12. madvillain Posted: August 22, 2014 at 08:23 PM (#4777517)
Very sad news.


Really Sucks. Hopefully someday soon there is medical technology to ID player that are prone to knee problems and they can be treated pre-injury. Tired of seeing all these young talents in all sports -- Derrick Rose, Machado, Stu Holden, etc go down with knee injuries.
   13. escabeche Posted: August 22, 2014 at 08:41 PM (#4777518)
Dammit, dammit, dammit. Forget about this year -- Machado is a big part of my vision of what my next decade of Orioles fandom is about. It'll be a real loss for baseball if he never gets to the level he promised to reach.
   14. Cargo Cultist Posted: August 22, 2014 at 09:41 PM (#4777536)
He may be a jerk, but he's a very talented young player and this is really bad news.

Are disproportionate numbers of talented young players being injured this year, or am I just imagining it?
   15. Davo Dozier Posted: August 22, 2014 at 09:54 PM (#4777545)
#9-- thanks! Been busy this month!
   16. BDC Posted: August 22, 2014 at 10:10 PM (#4777551)
O'Day is just not a name that impresses

O DAAAAY
O'DAY O'DAY O'DAY
   17. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 22, 2014 at 10:28 PM (#4777557)
He may be a jerk, but he's a very talented young player and this is really bad news.


Yeah. He seems like a jerk, but you never want to see anyone get hurt. I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery.
   18. Chris Fluit Posted: August 22, 2014 at 10:31 PM (#4777559)
Yeah. He seems like a jerk, but you never want to see anyone get hurt. I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery.

He had a bad month. But he's young and he seems to have learned from it. Since he got back from his suspension, he kept his head down and played (great) baseball.
   19. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: August 22, 2014 at 10:43 PM (#4777566)
This just adds to my impression that I'm not sure I can remember a less-inspiring playoff team than the O's. Adam Jones is a pretty exciting player but pretty much everybody else is pretty blah. The rotation is all guys with 100 ERA+ that don't strike many out (by today's standards) and the bullpen are Zach Britton and Darren O'Day (I know, O'Day's been quite good for a while but, c'mon, Darren O'Day is just not a name that impresses).

So presumably they'll win it all.


You might look at that "guys with 100 ERA+" rotation and see what those numbers have looked like since the end of June. Big difference between then and now.
   20. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: August 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM (#4777568)
Yeah, Machado comes across as more immature than inherently jerky. I expect he'll grow up out of it.
   21. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: August 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM (#4777585)
Better to repair the damage sooner than later. Pearce at first and Davis at third aren't the defensive equal to Manny and Davis, but it's not as if the Orioles' defense has been lagging that much in Manny's absence.
   22. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 22, 2014 at 11:51 PM (#4777596)
This just adds to my impression that I'm not sure I can remember a less-inspiring playoff team than the O's.

All those Minnesota teams that had Eric Milton and Joe Mays in the rotation, with Corey Koskie and Matt LeCroy hitting at the heart of the order, kind of failed to electrify. The 2003 Twins got to the playoffs in a year when their only All-Star had been Eddie Guardado.
   23. Up2Drew Posted: August 23, 2014 at 12:37 AM (#4777607)
Yeah. Intentionally whipping a bat at a player. That doesn't strike me as jerky at all. Just immature.
   24. Walt Davis Posted: August 23, 2014 at 02:58 AM (#4777617)
OK

Tillman 4.18 1.5 K/BB 2.60 3.5
Chen 4.19 4.0, 2.98 5.0
Norris 3.62 2.0, 3.83 3.5
Gonzalez 4.56 2.0, 2.43 2.0, no longer on the 25-man apparently
Gausman 3.86 1.5, 3.60 1.6

So 5 uninspiring pitchers, two of whom have been hot for 1.5 months and one who had his BABIP go from 323 to 226 and isn't on the active roster.

Matt LeCroy

That's why I can never remember that Lucroy is good -- Minnesota-Milwaukee, LeCroy-Lucroy, both Cs (yes, LeCroy was more a "C" than a C).
   25. PreservedFish Posted: August 23, 2014 at 03:26 AM (#4777620)
I thought fewer Ks were more exciting! (Especially with Chris Davis at third)
   26. Cargo Cultist Posted: August 23, 2014 at 04:00 AM (#4777624)
Yeah. Intentionally whipping a bat at a player. That doesn't strike me as jerky at all.


I sure thought that was a jerk thing for him to do. Likewise hitting the catcher with his bat twice. Once, maybe. But twice?

Let's hope that he learns better behavior and that this unfortunate injury at least teaches him a little much-needed humility.
   27. Belfry Bob Posted: August 23, 2014 at 08:40 AM (#4777644)
and that this unfortunate injury at least teaches him a little much-needed humility.


I'm sure Manny will take your concerns and thoughts into consideration...after all, there's nothing like an injury to enable someone to 'find humility'. Worked well for Bryan Harper...


   28. Cargo Cultist Posted: August 23, 2014 at 11:34 AM (#4777690)
#27: Having been injured several times myself and having done a lot of rehab myself, I have seen it teach people - athletes, policemen, drivers, businessmen, teenagers - humility first hand. Even some real jerks. You'd be surprised.
   29. Spahn Insane Posted: August 23, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4777740)
Gonzalez 4.56 2.0, 2.43 2.0, no longer on the 25-man apparently

He's scheduled to pitch tomorrow, last time I looked...
   30. Bug Selig Posted: August 23, 2014 at 09:34 PM (#4777897)
Worked well for Bryan Harper...


Bryan Harper?
   31. bobm Posted: August 23, 2014 at 10:19 PM (#4777911)
You might look at that "guys with 100 ERA+" rotation and see what those numbers have looked like since the end of June. Big difference between then and now.

                                                                                                         
          Split  G Year  W  L W-L%  ERA GS    IP SO9 SO/W HR   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
BAL April/MarGS 24 2014  8 10 .444 4.74 24 138.2 7.1 2.32 20 .283 .345 .450 .795  .321   125   122
BAL       MayGS 30 2014 10 10 .500 4.29 30 174.0 7.0 2.08 16 .248 .323 .381 .704  .286   100    95
BAL      JuneGS 28 2014 13  7 .650 3.47 28 160.2 5.7 1.53 23 .255 .333 .438 .770  .272   118   116

BAL      JulyGS 25 2014  9  4 .692 3.29 25 150.2 6.4 2.28 14 .257 .318 .389 .707  .293   101    98
BAL    AugustGS 19 2014 12  5 .706 3.49 19 116.0 7.8 3.74 16 .233 .280 .393 .672  .266    90    93
   32. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: August 24, 2014 at 12:20 AM (#4777991)
Thanks, Bob, though I guess I should have said since the end of May rather than June.
   33. joeysdadjoe Posted: August 24, 2014 at 09:17 AM (#4778032)
Worked well for Bryan Harper...

That's a clown mistake bro.
   34. TerpNats Posted: August 24, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4778154)
All those Minnesota teams that had Eric Milton and Joe Mays in the rotation, with Corey Koskie and Matt LeCroy hitting at the heart of the order, kind of failed to electrify. The 2003 Twins got to the playoffs in a year when their only All-Star had been Eddie Guardado.
The Twins were winning the anonymous AL Central, so no one took them seriously. The high-profile AL East is another matter entirely.

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