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Wednesday, March 06, 2013

Mark Teixeira out 8-10 weeks

New York Yankees first baseman Mark Teixeira will miss eight to 10 weeks due to his injured wrist, manager Joe Girardi said Wednesday.

Teixeira strained his wrist Tuesday while taking batting practice with the United States’ World Baseball Classic team.

The Yankees initially estimated Teixeira would miss just two weeks. But Wednesday’s update indicates that Teixeira will miss the entire month of April and could possibly be sidelined into mid-May.

Pronk plays LF and 1B for two months?

NattyBoh Posted: March 06, 2013 at 05:43 PM | 134 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 05:54 PM (#4382301)
Juan Rivera is not your savior.

Actually, Nunez at 3B, Youk to 1B is probably the answer.
   2. SG Posted: March 06, 2013 at 05:56 PM (#4382303)
J-E-T-S!!!

Just end the season.
   3. SG Posted: March 06, 2013 at 05:57 PM (#4382304)
Actually, Nunez at 3B, Youk to 1B is probably the answer.


Is the question how to lead MLB in errors made by your third baseman?
   4. JJ1986 Posted: March 06, 2013 at 05:57 PM (#4382306)
Every injury increases the chance that Ronnier Mustelier makes the starting lineup.
   5. Chip Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:01 PM (#4382307)
Francesa already advocating giving up whatever it takes from the farm system to get Morneau from the Twins, and mystified why Sweeney Murti doesn't agree with him that this is both possible, and the best course to take.
   6. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:01 PM (#4382310)
Possible opening day lineup for the Yankees, if every PED rumor is true, and nobody has a speedy recovery from their injuries:

RF: Ichiro Suzuki
CF: Brett Gardner
3b: Kevin Youkilis
DH: Travis Hafner
1b: Dan Johnson
LF: Juan Rivera
2b: Jayson Nix
C: Francisco Cervelli
SS: Eduardo Nunez
   7. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:02 PM (#4382312)
Jesus Christ. Did somebody build his mansion on an Indian burial ground or something?
   8. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:04 PM (#4382314)
--
   9. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:20 PM (#4382329)
#2 made me laugh, the sad, resigned laugh of the damned.
   10. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:21 PM (#4382330)
Johnny Damon is still waiting for a call.
   11. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:23 PM (#4382337)
I guess if the ############# WBC gets the Yanks a #1 draft choice, it might be worth it.
   12. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:26 PM (#4382342)
6 - Beats the Astros.
   13. Chip Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:28 PM (#4382345)
Amazing thing is that two starters are out for an extended time and one of them ISN'T Youkilis.
   14. RJ in TO Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:34 PM (#4382348)
Amazing thing is that two starters are out for an extended time and one of them ISN'T Youkilis.

There's still plenty of spring training left.
   15. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:36 PM (#4382349)
So Johnny Damon and Vladimir Guererro ARE getting jobs this year I guess.
   16. formerly dp Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:37 PM (#4382350)
When did the Yanks poach the Mets' medical staff? Did I miss a big story this winter?
   17. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:37 PM (#4382352)
Amazing thing is that two starters are out for an extended time and one of them ISN'T Youkilis.

Or Hafner!
   18. DL from MN Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:41 PM (#4382357)
Who takes his WBC spot?
   19. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:42 PM (#4382359)
Jeter would make a great first baseman, he's tall and at first he really won't need to go to his left.
   20. Canker Soriano Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:42 PM (#4382360)
So Johnny Damon and Vladimir Guererro ARE getting jobs this year I guess.

What's Claudell Washington up to?
   21. Nasty Nate Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:43 PM (#4382362)
Who takes his WBC spot?


Hosmer
   22. joeysdadjoe Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:44 PM (#4382363)
Amazing thing is that two starters are out for an extended time and one of them ISN'T Youkilis

Or ARod....Oh ####!
   23. joeysdadjoe Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:47 PM (#4382368)
Double post
   24. joeysdadjoe Posted: March 06, 2013 at 06:47 PM (#4382369)
I guess I shouldn't refresh.
   25. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:01 PM (#4382382)
And here Tex was worried that if he hit three home runs in a game someone would call him a steroid user.
   26. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:05 PM (#4382384)
The pitching can keep them afloat for a month and a half.
   27. Bruce Markusen Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:11 PM (#4382390)
I think we're looking at a platoon of Dan Johnson and Kevin Youkilis at first base, with either Nunez or Mustelier playing third base against left-handed pitching.
   28. asinwreck Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:14 PM (#4382392)
So when does Cano go down?
   29. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:23 PM (#4382395)
So when does Cano go down?

As soon as he exhausts the appeal process.
   30. billyshears Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:25 PM (#4382396)
So when does Cano go down?


He's going to be suspended for PEDs. Granderson too.

Edit: Too slow, I guess.
   31. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:26 PM (#4382399)
Time to bring back Rickey.
   32. tfbg9 Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:31 PM (#4382405)
The PED thing is down to, what, a 10% chance of being real? Less?
   33. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:35 PM (#4382406)
The PED thing is down to, what, a 10% chance of being real? Less?

No idea. But why down?

Wasn't there a several week lag between the same guy calling the Melky suspension, and the official news breaking?
   34. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:48 PM (#4382412)
If he behaves himself, Mel Hall will be available for the 2032 season.
   35. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: March 06, 2013 at 07:51 PM (#4382416)
Remind me not to sire a daughter in 2017.
   36. 'Spos Posted: March 06, 2013 at 08:03 PM (#4382424)
Vernon Wells would look good in pinstripes...
   37. Dale Sams Posted: March 06, 2013 at 08:12 PM (#4382426)
The PED thing is down to, what, a 10% chance of being real? Less?


Why would it be limited to 4 high-profile guys? Seems awfully coincidental. And if its related to the Miami clinic, why weren't the lesser-lights implicated also?
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 08:28 PM (#4382428)
Why would it be limited to 4 high-profile guys? Seems awfully coincidental. And if its related to the Miami clinic, why weren't the lesser-lights implicated also?

How do we know it would be just the 4? Maybe they just didn't bother leaking the no names.
   39. Benji Posted: March 06, 2013 at 08:31 PM (#4382429)
Don't get mad Yankee fans. I'm just being greedy. You can have your choice of Murphy or Duda for Nunez. Or both.
   40. tfbg9 Posted: March 06, 2013 at 08:33 PM (#4382431)
@33-yesterday, Heyman tweeted that it was 100% BS.
   41. The District Attorney Posted: March 06, 2013 at 08:38 PM (#4382433)
What?? I'm not trading Daniel Murphy for Eduardo Nunez. "Mechanical but serviceable" is better than "butcher."

Duda, sure, go nuts.
   42. Walt Davis Posted: March 06, 2013 at 08:40 PM (#4382434)
If he behaves himself, Mel Hall will be available for the 2032 season.

Vernon Wells would look good in pinstripes...

Sheesh, just cuz the guy's not a good player anymore is no reason to send him to prison.
   43. RollingWave Posted: March 06, 2013 at 08:42 PM (#4382437)
I guess if the ############# WBC gets the Yanks a #1 draft choice, it might be worth it.


He got hurt hitting off a ####### tee.... in the exotic foreign land of Arizona.

Has there been a serious high profile injury of a a WBC injury that REALLY probably wouldnt' have happened in ST? like you know.. a guy pitching 100 pitches or going back to back days? or getting taken out in a silde ? (though that happens in ST at times too)


   44. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: March 06, 2013 at 09:01 PM (#4382450)
or getting taken out in a silde ? (though that happens in ST at times too)

That it does. Ventura's first regular season appearance that year was in game 100 for the White Sox.
   45. RollingWave Posted: March 06, 2013 at 09:05 PM (#4382452)
There was also that incident a couple years back with Elliot Johnson decided to tackle Francisco Cervelli at home plate in ST for some reason... it did earn him a job out of ST though.. FWIW, and ruined most of Cervelli's season (yeah it's Cervelli, but his previous season was actually kinda promising)
   46. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 10:06 PM (#4382481)
@33-yesterday, Heyman tweeted that it was 100% BS.

OK. But, I don't particularly trust Heyman.
   47. JJ1986 Posted: March 06, 2013 at 10:16 PM (#4382484)
OK. But, I don't particularly trust Heyman.


He should at least know whether Cano was popped.
   48. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 06, 2013 at 10:19 PM (#4382487)
@33-yesterday, Heyman tweeted that it was 100% BS.

OK. But, I don't particularly trust Heyman.

OK, but it is fairly likely that if there was anything to the story, there'd be some follow-up by now. Some reporter would have a good enough source to "confirm without confirming" whether or not a rash of high profile PED suspensions were in the works.
   49. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: March 06, 2013 at 10:26 PM (#4382492)
Francesa already advocating giving up whatever it takes from the farm system to get Morneau from the Twins, and mystified why Sweeney Murti doesn't agree with him that this is both possible, and the best course to take.


C'mon now. Morneau surely knows how to win.
   50. RollingWave Posted: March 06, 2013 at 10:31 PM (#4382494)
Anything that can go wrong with the Yankees this year will go wrong, and event things that probably shouldn't go wrong will.

When I saw the Ichiro car crash story a couple days back I was so expecting him to be out for the season.
   51. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: March 06, 2013 at 10:38 PM (#4382497)
OK. But, I don't particularly trust Heyman.

He should at least know whether Cano was popped.

If he has, there is no motive for Boras to leak this.
   52. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: March 06, 2013 at 10:57 PM (#4382507)
C'mon now. Morneau surely knows how to win.

The Yankees have never lost a playoff series in which Morneau has participated.
   53. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 06, 2013 at 11:08 PM (#4382516)
Come on come on come on. Ryan Howard Ryan Howard Ryan Howard.

I'm sure you can restructure the contract to pay $40 million in the years you want to go over the cap, and $5,000 in the years you don't want to go over the cap, or whatever.

Make it happen make it happen make it happen
   54. Jim Wisinski Posted: March 06, 2013 at 11:12 PM (#4382518)
The luxury tax is calculated off of AAV
   55. Dan Posted: March 06, 2013 at 11:22 PM (#4382523)
OK, but it is fairly likely that if there was anything to the story, there'd be some follow-up by now. Some reporter would have a good enough source to "confirm without confirming" whether or not a rash of high profile PED suspensions were in the works.


There was never any followup about Melky until a month later when the suspension was actually served.
   56. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 06, 2013 at 11:38 PM (#4382534)
There was never any followup about Melky until a month later when the suspension was actually served.

This is a much bigger story, so the press should work a little harder this time.
   57. KronicFatigue Posted: March 06, 2013 at 11:51 PM (#4382545)
Off topic, but I looked up the yankees' payroll obligations, hoping to find some guys they can dump if/when they become sellers, and Jeter's contract surprises me:

11:$15M, 12:$16M, 13:$17M, 14:$8M player option ($3M buyout)

I don't see what Jeter and his agent were thinking for '14. If he falls off a cliff, but still wants to wear pinstripes, okay, but then he's taking a huge pay cut. If he ages gracefully, he's now trapped himself in a paycut OR gets the bad PR of opting out. It seems like a player option where he can't opt out. Wouldn't it have been better for him to just sign a three year deal? If he falls off the cliff, he probably can still sign somewhere for a couple of million. And if he doesn't fall off the cliff, the PR hit is on the Yankees if they choose not to resign the ageless jeter.
   58. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 11:53 PM (#4382547)
@33-yesterday, Heyman tweeted that it was 100% BS.


Not that I'm saying it's true, but how would Heyman know? I assume he would go to the players themselves, their agents, the MLBPA, or the Yankees. But why would any of these parties tell Heyman about a positive test, if the players are challenging the test results with the hope that the challenges are successful and nobody ever has to learn about the positive tests? Would they really tell Heyman "Yes, yes, the rumors are true -- but don't say anything." Even a 'no comment' would sound too suspicious.

So Heyman would have to go to the league or to members of the HPAC. But it's not clear to me why these parties would leak either.

Surely there are parties who might leak -- such as the one that this non-writer found, if the story is true. But Heyman would have to hit on them.
   59. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 06, 2013 at 11:58 PM (#4382551)
Ok, what are some creative options for the Yankees at some of these positions? Hafner would be a creative option at 1B but Cashman won't have it. Damon or Vlad would be creative options. Who else? Either a failed prospect or a player recently out of the league, or a player languishing in the minors or independent ball somewhere. Who are the latter day Brian Daubachs, Patrick Lennons, Ken Phelpses, Dwayne Hoseys, Jack Custs, Eurubial Durazos, Geronimo Penas, Morgan Burkharts, Russell Branyans? (In fact, what about Russell Branyan?)

Barry Bonds can probably still post a .280 EqA.
   60. Dan Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:05 AM (#4382555)
Hafner hasn't even owned a glove or taken infield practice in over 2 years. I don't think he's even a "creative option" at first at this point. He's a DH.
   61. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:09 AM (#4382560)
Ok, what are some creative options for the Yankees at some of these positions?

It's not creative, but at this point I think the most likely option is to lose. A lot.
   62. billyshears Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:18 AM (#4382569)
I don't see what Jeter and his agent were thinking for '14. If he falls off a cliff, but still wants to wear pinstripes, okay, but then he's taking a huge pay cut. If he ages gracefully, he's now trapped himself in a paycut OR gets the bad PR of opting out. It seems like a player option where he can't opt out. Wouldn't it have been better for him to just sign a three year deal? If he falls off the cliff, he probably can still sign somewhere for a couple of million. And if he doesn't fall off the cliff, the PR hit is on the Yankees if they choose not to resign the ageless jeter.


Player options are always good for the player. Team options are always good for the team. For the player, an option is a riskless way to get more money than they deserve. For the team, an option is a riskless way to pay the player less than they are worth. You're placing way too much value on unpredictable and unquantifiable PR.
   63. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:36 AM (#4382576)
I like this, from the ESPN article:

Manager Joe Girardi said the Yankees have to "find a way" to get through these injuries, but the organization realizes this is not the way to start a season.

"This ain't good," said Yankees general manager Brian Cashman, who was sitting in a wheelchair because of a fractured fibula and dislocated ankle from a sky-diving accident Monday.
   64. madvillain Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:37 AM (#4382577)
I would probably pay upwards of $50 to the Yankees (and I'm a broke mofo) if they signed Bonds and had him play when they visit Seattle.

As for their other "creative options" -- good luck. Hey, I'm a White Sox fan, how about an A-ball level pitching prospect for Dwayne Wise -- he'll lower the average age on the team and he comes highly recommended!
   65. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:50 AM (#4382588)
ok, wait for it....waaaiiiit for it....Is Soriano still available? He can try to play 1B!!
   66. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:54 AM (#4382591)
I don't see what Jeter and his agent were thinking for '14. If he falls off a cliff, but still wants to wear pinstripes, okay, but then he's taking a huge pay cut. If he ages gracefully, he's now trapped himself in a paycut OR gets the bad PR of opting out. It seems like a player option where he can't opt out.

Jeter's contract has bonus clauses that could push the option year up to $17M. He's already added $1.5M for his 2012 Silver Slugger award, and just missed adding $2M more for being in the MVP Top Six (7th). Those provisions carry over to 2013, so he could add a bit more. If he has a good season, the Yanks would want certainly be willing to go for a two-year deal, with or without Jeter formally opting out of his option.
   67. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:54 AM (#4382592)
Some (semi-)serious options who I think could be acquired rather easily:

Jack Cust
Russell Branyan
Jason Giambi
Adam Lind
Travis Snider
The Toddfather
Lars Anderson
Justin Smoak
Kyle Blanks
Barry Bonds
Hank Conger
JD Drew
Jason Bay
Nick Johnson
Jim Thome
   68. catomi01 Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:55 AM (#4382594)
As for their other "creative options" -- good luck. Hey, I'm a White Sox fan, how about an A-ball level pitching prospect for Dwayne Wise -- he'll lower the average age on the team and he comes highly recommended!


Not that either would save the season, but its actually impressive that the yankees had both wise and dickerson last year (and into the winter in dickerson's case)and now their best options in the OF are juan rivera or matt diaz...
   69. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:56 AM (#4382595)
Carlos Lee would answer if the Yankees called.
   70. JE (Jason) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:57 AM (#4382596)
Has Richard Justice updated his column yet? Does a Kevin Youkilis/Dan Johnson platoon also know how to win?
   71. Honkie Kong Posted: March 07, 2013 at 12:57 AM (#4382597)
Hafner hasn't even owned a glove or taken infield practice in over 2 years. I don't think he's even a "creative option" at first at this point. He's a DH.

This statement just bugs me at so many levels. DH's are basically the LOOGY equivalent of position players, and I am not a fan of either.

EDIT : Position players is not appropriate for him, as he does not play any position. Hitters? Batters?
   72. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 01:02 AM (#4382600)
So for the first 1+ months the Yankees will have massive holes at 1B, C, and LF.

I will refrain from calling Ichiro a massive hole :-)

And that's assuming Jeter can answer the bell.

Also, it's not like Youkilis is the picture of durability these days.
   73. RollingWave Posted: March 07, 2013 at 01:09 AM (#4382606)
@67
Nick Johnson


Of course, this is exactly what the Yankees need! someone else to take up the designated injured guy. might as well sign Chris Snelling while they're at it, he just showed in the WBC that he's still totally in his prime for filling this role.
   74. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 01:19 AM (#4382611)
Don't forget that wrist injuries can be tricky. Nomar missed a huge amount of time, and never was the same after. It's taken David Ortiz years to get back to where he was.
   75. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 01:19 AM (#4382612)
Is Snelling seriously in the WBC?
   76. RollingWave Posted: March 07, 2013 at 01:23 AM (#4382613)
Is Snelling seriously in the WBC?

Yes, not only was he on the Aussie team that got eliminated in the first round, he got hurt on the very first AB against Chien Ming Wang and limped off the field.

(Although he did make a pinch hit appearance in the last game)

   77. Dan Posted: March 07, 2013 at 01:24 AM (#4382614)
So what's a realistic April lineup for the Yankees right now? Something like this?

RF Ichiro
SS Jeter
2B Cano
3B Youkilis
DH Hafner
LF Juan Rivera
1B Dan Johnson
CF Gardner
C Stewart/Cervelli
   78. RollingWave Posted: March 07, 2013 at 01:31 AM (#4382616)
Well on the bright side, typical April Texiera isn't a huge upgrade from Dan Johnson anyway.

If Cano gets suspended though, that would be utterly hilarious.

   79. madvillain Posted: March 07, 2013 at 01:32 AM (#4382617)
its actually impressive that the yankees had both wise and dickerson last year (and into the winter in dickerson's case)and now their best options in the OF are juan rivera or matt diaz...


Not that Wise is who you want as anything other than a 4th OF or emergency starter, but yea, his .5 WAR or so looks good to the Yankees right now.


ahahahahahhaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha.
   80. SM Posted: March 07, 2013 at 02:04 AM (#4382622)
How about Scott Rolen as a creative option? He hasn't actually decided to retire yet, right?
   81. Sonic Youk Posted: March 07, 2013 at 02:56 AM (#4382626)
Lyle Overbay probably isn't going to make the Red Sox roster.
   82. RollingWave Posted: March 07, 2013 at 04:58 AM (#4382637)
I guess if you squeeze your eyes that lineup may not be terrible.

1. Youk Hafner if healthy (a rather big if ) would not be a total disaster at the plate in most likelihood.

2. Juan Rivera is one of those player who sometimes have streaks where he look like a star hitter.

3. Dan Johnson.... well if the comparison is April Teix...

4. Cervelil (if both makes the team there is little doubt in my mind Cervelli would start) is a oook contact hitter and has at times in the minors shown the ability to take a walk (or at least take a ton of HBP, this part seem to have translated perfectly into the bigs.) he'll wear a helmet so large with magnetic fields in it that he can get .400 OBP simply by the merits of 1 HBP per game!

   83. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 07, 2013 at 07:26 AM (#4382644)
Who are the latter day Brian Daubachs, Patrick Lennons, Ken Phelpses, Dwayne Hoseys, Jack Custs, Eurubial Durazos, Geronimo Penas, Morgan Burkharts, Russell Branyans?
Most of them now have major league jobs. The days when you could crush minor league pitching and still be relegated to riding buses to Tacoma are pretty much over.

One of the closest things to a Ken Phelps All-Star of recent vintage is Dan Johnson, the current Yankees 1B.
   84. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: March 07, 2013 at 07:42 AM (#4382649)
11:$15M, 12:$16M, 13:$17M, 14:$8M player option ($3M buyout)

I don't see what Jeter and his agent were thinking for '14.


Might be that even Jeter understands his career is in his twilight phase, and that he'll need to cut down his lifestyle from the level afforded by a star's salary. This at worst gives him a year to make the transition.
   85. formerly dp Posted: March 07, 2013 at 08:28 AM (#4382660)
Speaking to Ray's list: there's no way the Jays would give Lind to a division rival, especially with no apparent better option at 1B (David Cooper, but that's about the end of their depth). This is the year they're going for it-- I doubt they're worried that Lind will a little expensive for crappy production. And no doubt they've been salivating with all the Yankee injuries and PED rumors (rumours?).
   86. tfbg9 Posted: March 07, 2013 at 09:52 AM (#4382687)
"...pretty much over"

Oh yeah? Tell that to Mauro Gomez. ;-)
   87. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 07, 2013 at 09:54 AM (#4382689)
If Gomez repeats his 2012 season, he'll get a good job somewhere. Right now, it could easily be a one-year fluke.
   88. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 07, 2013 at 09:58 AM (#4382692)
Ken Phelps AAA numbers:

1979: 265/406/479 (538 PA)
1980: 294/456/532 (586 PA)
1982: 333/469/706 (574 PA)
1983: 341/450/759 (329 PA)

Even into the late 90s, you could have a Roberto Petagine. The world has changed.
   89. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 09:58 AM (#4382694)
Supposedly Youkilis was never a fan of switching regularly between 1st and 3rd when he was with the Sox. Couldn't focus as much as he wanted on hitting.
   90. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 07, 2013 at 10:09 AM (#4382698)
The Orioles have four guys fighting for a single spot who the Yankees could use: Russ Canzler, Steve Pearce (who the Yankees had last year), Danny Valencia, and Conor Jackson.
   91. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: March 07, 2013 at 10:11 AM (#4382699)
Speaking to Ray's list: there's no way the Jays would give Lind to a division rival, especially with no apparent better option at 1B (David Cooper, but that's about the end of their depth).

(Lind's not the 1B anymore, Encarnacion is) Cooper had a serious back issue revealed a few weeks ago, that's why they claimed Lars Anderson for triple-A depth. Unfortunately, now way they can give Lind away now, this close to the season beginning.
   92. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: March 07, 2013 at 10:19 AM (#4382707)
double post
   93. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 07, 2013 at 10:22 AM (#4382711)
In a recent prospect retrospective, John Sickels noted that, while age relative to league is important, mediocre performance shouldn't be ignored. (I'm probably butchering his point.) Phelps is the flip side: We shouldn't write off a guy who's crushing AAA pitching just because he's in his mid to late 20s. He probably isn't a real prospect, but youneverknow.
   94. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: March 07, 2013 at 10:36 AM (#4382719)
88 - MCoA, that's a drum I've been beating for some time - the labor market has gotten a lot more efficient.
   95. Ulysses S. Fairsmith Posted: March 07, 2013 at 10:45 AM (#4382725)
Didn't Teixeira know that taking batting practice for the WBC is insanely dangerous?! Regular spring training practices and games are super-safe, but participating in WBC activities is just asking for a catastrophe. I know because I heard it on sports radio.
   96. Nasty Nate Posted: March 07, 2013 at 10:45 AM (#4382726)
If Lyle Overbay doesn't make the Red Sox, NY might want him.
   97. formerly dp Posted: March 07, 2013 at 10:55 AM (#4382733)
(Lind's not the 1B anymore, Encarnacion is) Cooper had a serious back issue revealed a few weeks ago, that's why they claimed Lars Anderson for triple-A depth.
Thanks for the info, was wondering why I didn't see Cooper in their spring training games.
   98. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 11:24 AM (#4382763)
Most of them now have major league jobs. The days when you could crush minor league pitching and still be relegated to riding buses to Tacoma are pretty much over.


Well, even back in the day - in the late 90s, just before the stathead revolution - you could really only build one team from these players. You couldn't do that anymore. But there are still a handful of these guys floating around that you could pluck, especially given the proliferation of international scouting.

If Gomez repeats his 2012 season, he'll get a good job somewhere. Right now, it could easily be a one-year fluke.


Yes, but that's the position the Yankees are now in at 1B for at least April. Nothing to lose, really, by finding out whether it was a fluke.

Of recent vintage, Brandon Moss and Chris Davis were very useful players who were acquired - I think, without checking - rather cheaply. As was the 1B/3B the Orioles have - I'm blanking on his name, former Houston player - who all he does is BB and XBH.
   99. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 07, 2013 at 11:27 AM (#4382768)
Yes, but that's the position the Yankees are now in at 1B for at least April. Nothing to lose, really, by finding out whether it was a fluke.
But Mauro Gomez is the Red Sox #3 first baseman - which if the past three years have taught us nothing else, is a player who just might play a major role for the Sox - and his contract is negligible. The loss for the Yankees would be meeting the Red Sox' price.
   100. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 07, 2013 at 11:33 AM (#4382777)
Someone like the pre-2011 Alex Gordon would have been great to take a chance on for a desperate team with a hole and nothing to lose because they have nothing on hand -- and this isn't just hindsight. I tend to try want to see failed prospects - who were *legitimate* prospects - get as many chances as they can to work things out. Of course, for every Alex Gordon there is a...

Ben Grieve
D'Angelio Jimenez
Andy Marte
Jeremy Giambi
Calvin Pickering
Walter Young (?)

...who never really puts it together, either showing flashes or showing nothing at all. Though I think JeGiambi got hurt. And I know Jimenez did.

Pickering never got a chance in the majors. But he is exactly the kind of player - along with a Roberto Petagine - the Yankees could give a shot to.

On a broader level, if a team could figure out how to identify which of the Alex Gordons will finally put it together -- _before_ they finally put it together -- that would obviously be immensely valuable.
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