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Tuesday, June 19, 2018

Market for Moustakas could be slow, says Ken Rosenthal

Oddly, Rosenthal points to the $3 million owed Moustakas over the last two months of the season as a hindrance, although that seems to be a very low price for an established slugger, certainly cheaper than other third basemen that could potentially hit the market like Manny Machado, Josh Donaldson, or Adrian Beltre.

It does seem as if the market has moved away from (a) sluggers who bash home runs, since everyone can seemingly hit home runs; and (b) rentals like Moustakas who are eligible for free agency at the end of the year. Moose is also a low on-base percentage player in an era in which teams seem to value that stat. There were also whispers about teams being concerned with his physical fitness.

 

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   1. Sunday silence Posted: June 19, 2018 at 05:02 PM (#5695561)
I was also thinking that isnt baseball blessed with a plethora of good/excellent 3b at this point in time? And Moustakas would seem to be just past his peak at now at 29 so who wants to take a chance on a guy who's: probably a little sub par at fielding (per UZR and TZ), has no speed, and doesnt walk much.

OTOH, he's had at least 3 good years with the bat his last 4, the other being the injury year.
   2. Walt Davis Posted: June 19, 2018 at 05:18 PM (#5695573)
The money is immaterial and nobody cares he'll be an FA at the end of the year. If there's been a change, it's been the continuing recognition that the rental of a solid but not great player isn't worth much in return. If the Royals will take an empty package like they took for Herrera, they should be able to move him.

There aren't many places to move him. Boston, Atl, Philly are the only current contenders in need of 3B and, as the article notes, there may be other 3B available. There must be some teams out there that might use Moose at 1B/DH too. So I'm confident he'll get moved but nobody's going to be that active in purusing him. (Yes, Boston might prefer to stick with Devers but he's still just 21 and a return to the minors for 6 weeks in July/Aug wouldn't be out of the question.)
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 19, 2018 at 05:25 PM (#5695579)
I thought it was pretty definitively established several months ago that the market for Moustakas is slow.
   4. dlf Posted: June 19, 2018 at 05:29 PM (#5695585)
He would be a good fit in Atlanta. They have a 3B of the future in Austin Riley so a short term rental would bridge the gap. Camargo, Flaherty, and Culberson have been OK, but I would have more confidence that a half season of Moose is 1+ WAR than those guys will continue to perform. And the Braves offense has been good but based on singles and doubles while they could use homers and walks, one of which Moose provides. He's no superstar, but if the good guys get him for a package like the one for Herrera this Braves fan would be happy.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 19, 2018 at 05:39 PM (#5695589)
Atlanta could give up a good deal more than KC, and still have a good deal. KC got nobody.
   6. Bote Man Posted: June 19, 2018 at 05:59 PM (#5695602)
As hot as it is, who the h3ll wants Moose Tacos?!
   7. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 19, 2018 at 06:31 PM (#5695613)
Boston, Atl, Philly are the only current contenders in need of 3B


Don't know about Philly yet. Maikel Franco might be in his annual 5 game streak where he hits the ball where pitched. Once he reverts to his try to hit 500' homer swing, then the Phils might be ready to finally move on. He actually made a great defensive play yesterday too!
   8. Bote Man Posted: June 19, 2018 at 09:11 PM (#5695718)
Once he reverts to his try to hit 500' homer swing,

Also known as Ian Desmond Syndrome.
   9. Meatwad Posted: June 19, 2018 at 09:23 PM (#5695726)
Can he passibly play the outfield? If so I bet the mets could use him.
   10. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM (#5695788)
Meat, I'd love to see it for its entertainment value. For a team that played Pat Burrell and Greg Luzinski in LF for many years, I'm surprised they never tried it.
   11. Cleveland (need new name) fan Posted: June 19, 2018 at 10:44 PM (#5695794)
Boston, Atl, Philly are the only current contenders in need of 3B


Cleveland has a large hole at 2B. Moustakas could play 3rd with Jose Ramirez sliding to second. Moustakas would be a significant offensive upgrade on Kipnis' 62 OPS+ while Moustakas/Ramirez is a better defensive combination than Ramirez/Kipnis.
   12. wjones Posted: June 20, 2018 at 10:42 AM (#5696015)
He would be a good fit in Atlanta. They have a 3B of the future in Austin Riley so a short term rental would bridge the gap. Camargo, Flaherty, and Culberson have been OK, but I would have more confidence that a half season of Moose is 1+ WAR than those guys will continue to perform. And the Braves offense has been good but based on singles and doubles while they could use homers and walks, one of which Moose provides. He's no superstar, but if the good guys get him for a package like the one for Herrera this Braves fan would be happy.

Camargo obviously read your post prior to last night's game. Good job!
   13. PreservedFish Posted: June 20, 2018 at 10:46 AM (#5696019)
Cleveland has a large hole at 2B. Moustakas could play 3rd with Jose Ramirez sliding to second. Moustakas would be a significant offensive upgrade on Kipnis' 62 OPS+ while Moustakas/Ramirez is a better defensive combination than Ramirez/Kipnis.

I'm leading the FREE YANDY calls. Dude is a legit .430 OBP hitter in AAA and supposed to be a real good fielder too. It's criminal for him not to get a shot in the bigs.
   14. Spahn Insane Posted: June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM (#5696023)
Market for Moustakas could be slow

So he shouldn't expect a repeat of his 1/6MM windfall this coming offseason, then?

(Or, what ElRoy said. I feel like I read this headline in February, or could have.)
   15. dlf Posted: June 20, 2018 at 10:52 AM (#5696024)
Camargo obviously read your post prior to last night's game. Good job!


I was thinking of criticizing Acuna's recuperative skills next. If that works, I'll take on McCarthy's lack of a fastball. And if I'm then three for three, I'm challenging my wife's ability to pick lottery tickets.

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