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Thursday, July 31, 2014

Marlins acquire Jarred Cosart from Astros in six-player deal

Is that Hernandez thing like when you nickname a huge guy “Tiny”?

The Marlins announced shortly after the non-waiver Trade Deadline passed that they sent three prospects, including Colin Moran—their top pick in the 2013 First-Year Player Draft—and a 2015 Competitive Balance pick to Houston in exchange for Astros starter Jarred Cosart, utility player Kik√© Hernandez and outfield prospect Austin Wates…

Outfielder Jake Marisnick and right-hander Francis Martes were also sent to Houston.

The District Attorney Posted: July 31, 2014 at 06:57 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: austin wates, colin moran, francis martes, jake marisnick, jarred cosart, kike hernandez, trades, transactions

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   1. Joe Kehoskie Posted: July 31, 2014 at 07:13 PM (#4762111)

Another underwhelming move by the Astros. They passed on Moran at No. 1 last year* but traded one of their top two ML starting pitchers to acquire him now, when he's struggling in A-ball and, as predicted, showing no power. Making the move even more odd, the Astros reportedly are promoting Moran to Double-A.

(I'm assuming Moran was seen as the centerpiece here, as Marisnick isn't exactly setting the PCL on fire and his stock has dropped substantially.)


(* The Astros drafted Appel and reportedly "almost" drafted Moran. Somewhere, Kris Bryant and the Cubs are chuckling. These are the same Astros who are supposedly going to outperform industry scouting-and-development averages by 300 or 400 percent in order to develop a winner from within. LOL.)
   2. kthejoker Posted: July 31, 2014 at 09:17 PM (#4762194)
Moran and a comp pick for Cosart seems like a fair bargain.
   3. JRVJ Posted: July 31, 2014 at 09:20 PM (#4762196)
I'm not getting this deal.

Moran was the 6th pick in last year's draft, and he got traded away.

I liked Cosart since his Baby Aces phase in the Phillies farm system, but it's still hard for me to grok this trade (or perhaps it's a stealth blockbuster, if one's really high on Cosart).
   4. SY Ruined School Lunches! Posted: July 31, 2014 at 09:23 PM (#4762197)
If the Astros thought Moran was worth the #1 pick last year, that doesn't say anything good about them. Thats not even a second guess, I'm pretty sure most people paying attention figured out that Kris Bryant was amazing before the draft.
   5. SY Ruined School Lunches! Posted: July 31, 2014 at 09:28 PM (#4762201)
Mark Appel reminds me of Luke Hochevar; #1 pick by the power of pure inertia. I wonder if Mark Appel's parents would have been exited to pick him first overall.
   6. SteveM. Posted: August 01, 2014 at 12:37 AM (#4762295)
So the Astros plan is try and win in 2020? Will they be on local TV by then?
   7. valuearbitrageur Posted: August 01, 2014 at 03:16 AM (#4762327)
The draft is so easy to predict, if you get to make your predictions a year later.
   8. Joe Kehoskie Posted: August 01, 2014 at 01:52 PM (#4762583)

LOL. The Astros are basing their rebuild on their (alleged) ability to be smarter than everyone else when it comes to scouting and development. The early returns don't look very promising.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 01, 2014 at 01:58 PM (#4762590)
Moran was thought to be a low ceiling, high floor guy, who could rise quickly, but he's in high A ball and not exactly tearing it up. Marisnick kinda reminds me of a young Frenchy, which could play for a few years as long as he's cheap. So I'm not in love with either of those guys. But for Jarrod Cosart? Dude can't strike anyone out. Seems like a very odd deal for Miami, and kudos to Houston for flipping him and getting more assets.
   10. The District Attorney Posted: August 01, 2014 at 02:13 PM (#4762616)
Yeah, I think it'd be fair to invoke the spectre of a perpetual rebuild if they traded Keuchel or McHugh (who both were rumored), but I think Cosart is a mook.

Appel, though, that's not good.
   11. billyshears Posted: August 01, 2014 at 02:47 PM (#4762645)
I'm pretty sure most people paying attention figured out that Kris Bryant was amazing before the draft.


My recollection is that Appel and Gray were the consensus top 2 in the draft, with Bryant #3. It was a mild surprise when the Cubs passed on Gray to take Bryant.
   12. PreservedFish Posted: August 01, 2014 at 03:26 PM (#4762666)
But for Jarrod Cosart? Dude can't strike anyone out. Seems like a very odd deal for Miami


You know who Cosart reminds me of? Henderson Alvarez and Nathan Eovaldi. Both of those guys were also young starters with great velocity and weak K numbers, and they've both gradually improved to the point where they are above average starters. Cosart has wicked stuff, he is a huge groundball pitcher ... if he just cuts his walk numbers down all of a sudden he's a plus starter.

There are probably plenty of pitchers like this. Rick Porcello is getting better and better. Sometimes they make big leaps, like Garrett Richards and Tyson Ross did in the last couple years. All of these pitchers had disappointing K numbers in their first year and a half. That isn't destiny.

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