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And he was hurt last year. I'm puzzled at how this is a "now move".
Well, it looks like Robertson will be cheap enough for the Marlins. Depending on how good Voss is (I don't know), this might not be a bad trade for the Marlins. It's risky to put a lot of weight on spring stats, but Robertson appears to have pitched well this spring.
I have also been to Miami just once. Unfortunately, it was in September. It was almost 100 degrees and the humidity was unbearable. After it rained, it got hotter ... at night! I never personally experienced any crime there. But I recall reading the Miami Herald my first morning there about 15 murders that month--and that was not unusual.
So, from my perspective, Robertson moves from not good ... to bad.
Here is my list of the 30 towns with big league ball from best to worst, based on the quality of the weather from April-October and the quality of the town, leaving aside the quality of the ballclub and the ballpark. I have a strong personal bias against hot + humid. I like a dry heat. But let's be honest--Phoenix is way beyond comfortable in the summer.
1. San Diego
2. Seattle
3. Oakland
4. San Francisco
5. Denver
6. Anaheim
7. Chicago-North
8. Toronto
9. L.A.
10. Pittsburgh
11. Boston
12. Milwaukee*
13. Chicago-South
14. Cleveland*
15. Detroit
16. Minneapolis*
17. Queens
18. Kansas City*
19. Bronx
20. Philly
21. Baltimore
22. Cincinnati*
23. Phoenix
24. Atlanta
25. Arlington, TX
26. Washington
27. St. Louis
28. Houston
29. Tampa
30. Miami
*Never been there.
Seems contradictory?
Also, I think people who don't know Oakland think it is some kind of pit (like a lot of rust belt cities). It's not. It isn't a great city like SF. Of course. But Oakland is a very nice town outside of a few ghettos. It's a diverse city and it's nice looking, too. It has great parks, a beaufiful lake and a clean downtown. There just are not too many places (middle class places) nicer to spend a summer than, say, Rock Ridge in Oakland. If you have a lot of money, the Oakland hills are very nice, too. And even in the ghetto, in West Oakland, where I owned a loft, it's a very nice place to be in the summer. Lots of artists and craftsmen and so on.
One note on the No. 1 city, San Diego. It's an unbelievably nice place within a couple of miles of the coast; yet it's almost Phoenix inland. I lived in La Jolla when I went to grad school at UCSD. I don't ever remember a single day which was not nice.
One note about violent crime in Oakland ... It is almost entirely in the public housing projects. That is probably not so different in other big cities, including Miami. (I spent only 2 days in Miami, so I don't have a nuanced view of it at all.) I should note, alas, that I was a victim of crime in my loft in West Oakland on Adeline Street. I left for a few days on a trip to L.A. and came home only to find just about everything I owned gone. That happened in pre-cell phone days (in the early '90s), and the burglars even took my phones. So I had to traipse down the street to a cell phone to call the police. The one thing the robbers did not touch were my books. I probably had a couple thousand books in that place, and not one was missing.
I can't see that, unless you really like Disney.
So . . . you ignore all the cool bits about Miami and focus on the murder rate, then you rank Oakland number 3.
Oakland is the #6 city in the country in murder/violent crime per capita.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate#
And before you backtrack about how there are parts of Oakland that are perfectly safe . . . the same is true of Miami, which has almost exactly half the per capita murder rate.
Edit: I live in SF, btw, so no pro-Miami bias. I'm quite familiar with Oaktown.
Mrs. Lincoln had a very nice time at the play, outside of the assassination.
(I live in SF - you couldn't pay me to live in Oakland. And I'm not one of those SF lifers with a bizarre obsession with this place - I've only been here a few years, and I'm not particularly crazy about it. But Oakland... yikes. The best thing my friends ever did for me when I was moving here was to convince me that saving a few hundred a month in rent was not worth living in Oakland.)
TSHIP: "And before you backtrack about how there are parts of Oakland that are perfectly safe . . . the same is true of Miami, which has almost exactly half the per capita murder rate."
Point taken.
But my rating of Miami so low is not really because of crime. I am sure most people there can avoid all trouble, just as they can in most big cities. I just hate that humidity.
Man, that sounds like a lot of work. I change my vote to liking your list.
Ah, I didn't get that from your post. Just thought you were ranking Miami so low because of the crime rate from the way your 2nd graf was structured. I completely understand hating the humidity.
1. San Francisco
2. Seattle
3. New York
4. Chicago
5. Montreal
6. San Diego
7. Oakland
8. Boston
9. Fort Worth (Dallas will be last)
10. Tampa/St. Pete
11. D.C.
12. Los Angeles
13. Dallas
14. Atlanta
15. Anaheim (I lied about Dallas.)
16. Phoenix (sorry, but I just do not like Phoenix. it's all sprawl and heat to me.)
I've been to other MLB towns, but none long enough to make an impression.
AL East
Boston
New York
Tampa
Baltimore
Toronto
AL Central
Chicago
Minnesota
Cleveland
Kansas City
Detroit
AL West
Oakland
LA Angels
Seattle
Texas
NL East
Philadelphia
New York
Florida
Washington
Atlanta
NL Central
Chicago
St Louis
Houston
Milwaukee
Cincinnati
NL West
LA Dodgers
San Francisco
San Diego
Colorado
Arizona
6. Anaheim
I can't see that, unless you really like Disney.
In terms of quality of weather, you can't beat Anaheim. Quality of town is lacking though.
Here is one testimonial on Kansas City weather.
Awesomeness of MLB cities I have been to:
1. New York of course
2. San Francisco
3. Chicago
4. Minneapolis
5. Washington
6. San Diego
7. Kansas City
8. St. Louis
9. Baltimore
10.Cleveland
11.Detroit
I have seen a Phillies game, but didn't spend enough time in the city to evaluate it. Will be traveling to St. Pete this summer!
Basically, if the temperature is below 85 or above 32, I can walk outside comfortably. That I have to wear a sweater or coat is pretty much inconsequential. Is it that difficult to wear a jacket?
And there's something to be said for the change of seasons. 72 degrees never feels so sweet as the first warm day of March; 65 never feels so crisp as after the first cold front of September.
The only place I could see myself having trouble with is the Great Lakes, where there's substantially less sunshine in the fall and winter than in other parts of the US. Cloudy days crush the soul, bit by bit. Damn lake-effect.
I actually have spent a fair amount of time in Queens, but very little in the Bronx. Oddly enough, I never went to Shea. I saw it from the outside. I did go twice (mid-80s and then in 2001) to Yankee Stadium II, but stayed in Manhattan and just took the subway. Most of my impression of the Bronx is probably distorted. However, I really liked the parts of Queens which I saw. ... Also, while I have never spent time in the poor parts of Brooklyn, I like it, too. I especially love the architecture in Brooklyn. ... Overall, I really do like New York City. But again, I am prejudiced against humidity (which I don't recall ever experiencing in NY, but understand it does get humid, there).
... As to KC, I have never stopped there, but I did pass through (once on a train from Chicago to LA and once by car when I was a wee kid and our family stopped in Independence to see the Truman Library and his house). I am no expert on soul food or southern barbecue, but I am told by reliable sources that KC bbq food is outstanding.
I've noticed that in the upstatate New York portion of the lakes (I don't think I've ever seen the sun there), but it hasn't been a problem on the south shore of Lake Michigan during my five years here.
But I do agree with you on the change of seasons. I need all four.
it's funny how amped I've been for the baseball season because of the weather here. Since January, when I got back, my body has been fooled into believing it's midseason baseball time.
Seconded. The thing I hate most about living in SF (other than the exorbitant rents and the epidemic of panhandlers) is that there are no real seasons. I was thinking the other day - I've been here over 3 years, but it seems like no time at all. I think it's because there are no seasons to mark the time. The weather stays roughly the same (and I know it's a little wetter some months, and a little cooler some months) all the time. Months just endlessly roll one into another.
When I visit friends in the Northeast for Thanksgiving, I savor the crispness of the November evenings. I miss walking in weather that's just barely cold enough to make you notice it.
This. I grew up on the Gulf Coast, an hour east of New Orleans. The summers there were far more oppressive than the Chicago winters I deal with now. Seriously, give me negative wind chill over 95 degrees with 100% humidity. And nothing beats a summer in northern climes. They're perfect. I'll never again live in the Sun Belt.
Ding ding ding! The Bronx is a hellhole.
1. Chicago
2. NYC
3. Montreal (yep, I still count it)
4. Toronto
5. San Fran
6. D.C.
7. Pittsburgh (seriously, I like Pittsburgh)
8. Kansas City
9. Boston
10. L.A.
11. Milwaukee
12. St. Louis (pains me to say it, but my team plays in a marginal city)
13. Baltimore
14. Denver
15. Atlanta
16. Houston
17. Detroit
18. Anaheim
19. Phoenix
20. Arlington
Right, and humid heat is the worst. That's why it's so much better in places that are 50-80 degrees for the vast majority of the year, with little to no humidity in the summer. Like much of populated California.
Which, unfortunately, is full of Californians.
Basically, if the temperature is below 85 or above 32, I can walk outside comfortably. That I have to wear a sweater or coat is pretty much inconsequential. Is it that difficult to wear a jacket?
People who like water sports or outdoor sports might feel differently. Obviously you can play most sports outdoors in sub-freezing weather, but it's a lot more unpleasant to me than doing those things in 85+ weather.
Plus there is more to weather than temperature.
And I say that as someone who has spent 90% of my life in the Northeast. I mean, I love it here, the bad weather isn't that big a deal, and I'd much rather live here than Phoenix if I had to stay someplace year-round. But the three years I lived in SoCal were pretty great.
No way. Violent crime in Oakland is far more widespread.
Not to mention Chicago being split into north and south - living on the north side beats living on the south side, yes (and I say this as a Sox fan who lives 0.6 miles from Wrigley field), but it's not like you have to choose based on the team you play for.
I've consistently heard that Pittsburgh is the most underrated city in America.
And there's something to be said for the change of seasons.
When you live in your mom's basement, the seasons are all the same.
Do jackets cover your face now?
Seriously? Your face can't handle it if it's in the 30's, like it is for most of the winter in the big cities of the East Coast? I mean, when it gets down into the low 20's its legitimately miserable but how many days is it that cold during the winter, even in Boston? 5? 10?
MUNB. M all the way U.
It was. It's okay now. Some parts are pretty nice.
1. Minneapolis (I may revise this rating come winter)
2. San Diego
3. Chicago
4. Oakland
5. Seattle
6. San Francisco
7. Boston
8. Phoenix (only ranks this high if you have an air-coniditioned car; otherwise it's last)
9. Anaheim
10. Los Angeles
Anywhere below 5 I wouldn't want to live in. Anywhere below 7 and I would be praying for the sweet relief of death.
1. San Francisco (admitted bias, it's my hometown)
2. New York
3. Boston
4. San Diego
5. Philadelphia
6. Tampa
7. Miami
8. Oakland
9. Pittsburgh
10. Denver
11. DC
12. Atlanta
13. Baltimore
14. Los Angeles
2,917,424. Arlington
In the afternoon, perhaps you're right. But the average daily low in Boston in January is 22, so I suspect it's in the low 20s in the mornings and evenings more often than you think.
That said, I lived in Boston for four years and travel there quite a bit now, and the cold never bothered me as much as the freezing rain, sleet, slush, etc. And none of it bothered me as much as the Red Sox fans. (I kid, I kid.)
It's possibly the greatest food on Earth. One of the most memorable meals I ever had was at LC's BBQ, right before watching a rather forgettable Royals game.
I spend 3 days a week in Waltham. I am intimately familiar with the weather on a icy Boston morning. I just don't think it's that bad.
On the other hand, the Noarchian weather of the last month, that is a real crimp in my life.
I spend 3 days a week in Waltham. I am intimately familiar with the weather on a icy Boston morning. I just don't think it's that bad.
The flipside is that I live in Phoenix, the hottest weather of any MLB city. I routinely walk a mile or so each way during the summer, so long as I have a hat and plenty of water. The only times I don't want to walk are when it's raining hard (rare), when it's 115 or so (rare) or when a haboob is coming in (also rare) Basically 20 or so hours during the baseball season. Less during the offseason(no haboobs, no extreme heat, rain is still rare). San Diego has nicer weather, but how many northern climes have people honestly saying they would walk a mile happily all but an hour or two a month? 20 degrees with a strong wind creates dangers if the distance is significant at all.
That's very funny. I walk to-and-from school Monday-Thursday. 2 miles. Even in 20 degree weather. "Dangers"? Maybe if you try to do it in a tank top.
Heck, I went to college way up north, and we used to wear Birkenstocks to class when it was in the 10's outside. In fact, once you're used to it 0 degrees at night isn't that bad as long as the wind is calm.
1. San Francisco
2. Oakland
3. New York
4. Philly
5. Chicago
6. San Diego
7. Pittsburgh
8. Atlanta
9. D.C.
10. L.A.
11. Anaheim
12. Houston
San Francisco: 50 and foggy in the morning, 70 and clear in the afternoon, 300 days a year.
So you do that even when there is a major snowstorm, or when the wind is howling? There are literally only a few hours a month when I am not willing to walk - the limited rain, the limited Haboobs (one or two a year, an hour or so for each), the very occasional stretches when it's insanely hot. From talking to friends in various northern cities, there is much more time in the winter when they are basically stuck in their houses except for quick dashes out, or playing in their yards with the option to step inside whenever they get too cold. I've lived in cold climes, though not for long stretches, and 20 degrees with strong winds is a danger according to the weather people, and something to strongly avoid.
I spend 3 days a week in Waltham. I am intimately familiar with the weather on a icy Boston morning. I just don't think it's that bad.
I don't disagree, as I mentioned in my next sentence. I was just pointing out that your temperature estimates were probably off.
No kidding. I live just outside Chicago, and wear shorts all year-round. While I need a jacket or sweatshirt to cover my arms, the cold really doesn't bother my legs.
This is amazing; it's like reading about people from the boonies who are convinced that all of New York is filled with violent sex offenders who rape relentlessly and indiscriminately.
I wouldn't listen too hard to the weather folks about "dangerous cold". Yes, I go out even in the snow. Actually, snow is often quite pleasant to walk in, b/c generally it has to be warmish to snow- the coldest days are bright, harsh, dry.
I would say there are zero days a year in NYC when I don't go out because of the cold. There are maybe 1 or 2 every decade in Boston.
Honestly, it's just not that bad. You buy a nice coat and a warm hat and gloves and you roll with it. I don't know a single person in NYC who feel that the cold is oppressive in the winter, and this is a city where you have to walk outdoors to get around. In fact, I know a lot more people who find the summer oppressive (and flee to the cooler coast or inland hills) than the winter.
Did they fix the summers in Chicago after I left?
Beside sweating and just feeling sticky all over when it is hot and humid, there is often a related problem: annoying flying insects. We just don't have many bugs flying around here (in Northern California). Sure, we get a few mosquitos and so on, but it just doesn't compare with the infestations you get in the Midwest, South and even the Northeast. No one here has screened it front porches designed to keep the bugs out.
Unlike San Francisco and Oakland, Sacramento is brutally hot in the summer -- we typically get up to 100 degrees 5-10 days each year; and it will top 90 degrees the majority of days in the summer. But we don't have humidity or a pestilence problem. When you sit out at Raley Field, right on the Sacramento River, and watch AAA baseball on a summer evening, you don't ever have to worry about putting on bug spray or worry about any other pests. The Delta Breeze will come in, the crows will fly by, and you can just enjoy a baseball game outdoors with no humidity, temps around 75-80 degrees after sunset, and a nice cool wind. ... While I prefer the climate in Oakland to anywhere else in Northern California, I don't think the Bay Area at night in the summer is as nice as it is here. It's just that, most of the day it is waaaay better to be near the Bay. (Even in the East Bay, places like Pleasanton, Concord and Livermore, it's pretty much as hot in the summer as it is here.)
Then the weather people are silly, just dress right.
How many days are there where it would be miserable to play golf? To say nothing of days where it would be impossible.
That's just one example but weather that's cold and/or wet really limits what you can do outside. My experience is that most people who grow in a cold environment don't miss those things because they never had them. When you grow up in Southern California, and then spend a winter in NY and find that virtually everything outdoors is shut down- or miserable- you notice it right away.
As far as not knowing anyone who hates NY winters, aren't there tens of thousands of people (Snowbirds) who abandon the Northeast in the winter in order to go some place warm?
As far as not knowing anyone who hates NY winters, aren't there tens of thousands of people (Snowbirds) who abandon the Northeast in the winter in order to go some place warm?
I guess, but that was a much bigger thing 20 or 30 years ago. It's sort of something that your Grandma Ethel was big on, rather than the current crop of retirees who are just as likely to live in a rural college town during the winter as to move down to Boca.
I think you just learn to accept less pleasant weather. I do a lot of ######## when it's really cold or really hot and humid, but what am I going to do if I want to go somewhere?
NYC is a beautiful walking city, and the weather is completely cooperative for most of the year. There's about two weeks' worth of really lousy cold days in the winter and about a week's worth of really lousy hot days in the summer, and maybe another two or three weeks of unpleasant rain.
Not in San Diego it wasn't. ;)
Three of my favorite outdoor activities are ice fishing, snowmobiling and broomball. Weather that's not cold and/or snowy really limits what you can do outside, but people who refuse to go outside when it's below 40 degrees don't always realize that.
I'll take a balmy 20 degrees over 90 and humid every day of the week.
Hahahahahaha! Funniest thing I've read in days. And I was born in Oakland! Thankfully I had the presence of mind at the tender age of 6 mo. to move the hell away from that place.
One question: if you weren't rich, and had kids, and owned property: could you *ever* justify giving your kid over to the Oakland public school system? and still sleep at night?
The weather stays roughly the same (and I know it's a little wetter some months, and a little cooler some months) all the time. Months just endlessly roll one into another
Oddly enough, most people I know who live in *4 season states* are real big on the 4th season until around Jan. 3, at which point they refuse to talk about the weather until the snow melts. I spent 3 years in Germany, and a few in Oregon, so I know for a fact that the myth of "real seasons" is something people tell themselves to justify the lower rents in places where you have a good chance of dying in bad weather.
October is really nice, and April is decent, and the other ten months of the year just kind of suck, weather-wise.
I can see liking the snow, or liking winter, or whatever- people like what they like. I just don't understand trying to pretend NY isn't cold sometimes. The horror of last year's ALCS is still fresh and I seem to recall stands full of people who wouldn't have been upset if it was 20 degrees warmer- at least most of the time.
When it gets close to freezing you've got to gear up a bit to be comfortable outside for any length of time. That's limiting- not unmanageable by any means, but limiting. More importantly, what kind of monster would want to live somewhere where you can't play baseball for months at a time? Those people should have their kids taken away....and moved to Tucson.
My mom was friends with carly simon's older sister growing up. The simon dad started simon and schuster, was a big liberal who helped jackie robinson get a house in a wealthy part of ct. Mom got to meet jackie robinson when she was 10 years old at a party at the simons. "He threw a ball at me." Which is her way of saying they played catch out on the lawn.
1. San Francisco
2. Boston
3. Montreal
4. Toronto
5. Chicago
6. New York
7. Washington
8. Cleveland
9. Pittsburgh
10. Milwaukee
11. Philadelphia
12. St. Louis
13. Los Angeles
14. Anaheim
15. Tampa
16. Baltimore
17. Miami
18. Cincinnati
19. Detroit
A couple of things:
I hate, hate, HATE hot weather. Hate it. You'll note that southern cities don't fare well for me.
I've got Cleveland much higher than most would, but I'm comfortable there. It feels like home.
Pittsburgh and Milwaukee are wildly underrated cities. I really like both. Cincinnati, on the other hand, I've been there a bunch of times and don't like it all that much. I don't have anything against the Reds and sort of have a soft spot for the Bengals, so it's not that. I can't put my finger on my disdain for Cincinnati other than it's completely culturally different from the rest of Ohio. It feels like a southern city rather than a Great Lakes city.
I remember being on holiday in Florida around the Kissimmee area and the weather being rather nice March-time, a world away from the boiling heat of summer time that some people have talked about.
Apart from that Vancouver was pretty much like Nottingham around September time but with more sunshine and a little bit warmer but a really nice place to live, i can see why it's one of the best (and most expensive) to live.
I only visited Toronto in late November - early December and at times it got very, very cold but i was told the summers are nice.
1) San Diego (best beer culture, nice weather, do wish it would rain on occasion)
2) NYC (very good beer scene, weather terrible, awesome food)
3) Boston (same as directly above, but with Bostonians and therefore worse)
4) Tampa Bay (huge drop off from Boston in terms of excitement, lots of cute girls)
5) Los Angeles (way too spread out to be enjoyable, people surprisingly friendly for the week I was there)
6) Miami (hot, hot, hot, hot, I am from an hour north of Miami and dealt with this for the first eighteen years of my life, also I hate Mustard and Mayo so Cuban sandwiches hold no value for me)
My favorite cities in the U.S. including ones I visited before college would possibly rank Seattle number one, Chicago in the top five, Cleveland near the bottom, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in the middle, and San Fran would probably rank very high if I knew I was going to have money. Vancouver is awesome and had a lot of adult bookstores that I found very alluring when I was fourteen.
A lot of what gets said about Oakland applies to B'more too. There's a crime problem but the media tends to exaggerate how badly it is on an everyday basis.
Winters, this one notwithstanding, are usually easy to tolerate, and I find summer to be reasonably pleasant.
Add Harrisonburg to that list.
SF/Oakland
Los Angeles/Anaheim
Chicago
New York
San Diego
Seattle
Milwaukee
Boston
Toronto
Pittsburgh
Kansas City
Philadelphia
Minneapolis/St. Paul
Kansas City
Baltimore
Washington
Denver
Atlanta
Phoenix
Miami
Cincinnati
St. Louis
Detroit (?, only been to the airport)
Cleveland (?, never been there)
Tampa/St. Pete (?, only been to the airport)
------acceptable under the right circumstances------
Dallas
Houston
This is the first March in a long time (hundred years or something) in which the Twin Cities didn't receive a single drop of snow. Going to be 75 today and tomorrow!
My rankings of cities to which I have visited/lived:
Toronto
Minneapolis
Denver
Washington
Chicago
Philadelphia
San Francisco
Seattle
Kansas City
Milwaukee
Pittsburgh
St. Louis
Cleveland
Oakland
Baltimore
Miami
Dallas
Not eligible, but New Orleans would slot in just above Miami. It's just way too hot for way too much of the year (although I'll be at Cafe Du Monde on Saturday).
Did they fix the summers in Chicago after I left?
Everything's relative, of course, but where I grew up we had, oh, 75 days a year like that. In Chicago, you get, what, 5-10?
Sup. My girlfriend and I both think any NYC day under 40 is oppressive and miserable. Of course, if I had my way, the entire planet would have Tucson's weather, so I might be a bit of a freak. 110 degrees is OK in my book, especially if the humidity is low. I'd still take 95 with 100% humidity over cold weather though.
Philadelphia
Minneapolis/St. Paul
Kansas City
I take it one is Kansas City, MO and the other is Kansas City, KS?
Oregon.
1. Chicago
2. Austin, TX
3. Jackson, MS
4. Oxford, MS
5. Gulfport, MS
6. Clinton, MS
7. Hattiesburg, MS
8. Moss Point, MS
As you can imagine, there is, um, a significant drop-off after Austin.
Yikes. Well, I'm sorry. B/c you spend so much time outside, I feel like NYC is the worst place to live if you're sensitive to the weather one way or the other. Actually, every non-native friend of mine has mentioned that to me at some point; that the big paradox of NYC is you move to the most artificial place in the country and then you're much more exposed to nature than you ever were in the 'burbs or in LA, Miami, etc...
1. North Little Rock AR
2. Little Rock AR
3. Tempe AZ
4. Tucson AZ
5. Phoenix AZ
6. Mesa AZ
7. Montgomery AL
8. Slidell LA
9. Magnolia AR
10. Stamps AR
11. Village AR
That's 3 of the 4 states that start with "A". Something tells me that Alaska won't be joining the list.
2. Austin, TX
3. Jackson, MS
4. Oxford, MS
5. Gulfport, MS
6. Clinton, MS
7. Hattiesburg, MS
8. Moss Point, MS
Oxford behind Jackson?
But hmmm, ranking places I've lived:
1. New York
2. Oxford
3. Gainesville, FL
4. Salinas, CA
5. Hayward, CA
6. Syracuse
7. Stockton, CA
Obviously a lot of this is dependent on what stage of my life I was in when I lived there. 5 and up I have fond memories of. Syracuse and Stockton...I would not live in those two towns again. This list also doesn't reflect where I'd like to live. Monterey, CA or possibly a little north of there in Moss Landing would be my ideal home.
1. Portage, Ind. (current home)
2. Buchanan, N.Y.
3. Peekskill, N.Y.
4. Monticello, Ind.
5. Franklin, Ind.
6. Greensburg, Ind.
If I could live anywhere, it would only be a few miles northwest of where I do now, in the Miller Beach section of Gary. I wouldn't mind retiring to New Buffalo, Mich., however.
I recognize I'm in the minority on that one. But the Belhaven neighborhood of Jackson is a great place to live, I loved the bar Martin's, and Jackson--unlike Oxford--had minor-league baseball.
And the cities with the best walking weather are often the ones where people have to drive to get to anything.
Wooster OH
Miami FL
Creston OH
Wadsworth OH
Smyrna GA
Scotch Plains NJ
Akron OH
Yeah. The cold weather is annoying, but it's a worthwhile price to pay for being in NYC. Almost every other city in CONUS is going to have a fair amount of cold weather too, and none of them are quite as awesome as NY, so I can't complain too much.
1. San Francisco*
2. Miami (sister lived there 10 years)
3. Cincinnati
4. Washington
5. Boston
6. L.A.*
7. Kansas C
8. St. Louis
9. Chicago-North
10. Chicago-South
11. Tampa
12. Oakland
13. Bronx*
14. Pittsburgh
15. Minneapolis
16. San Diego
17. Toronto
18. Cleveland
19. Denver* (Winter Park, 9 months)
20. Detroit
21. Anaheim
22. Philly
23. Phoenix
25. Seattle*
26. Queens*
27. Houston
28. Arlington, TX
I have not been to Atlanta, Milwaukie, or Baltimore.
The unrelenting grayness of the NE Ohio winter? That gets to me.
You'd better stay out of northern NY.
1. Paris (France)
2. Cupertino, California before Apple but with apple orchards
3. Chicago
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100. Slough, UK
The trouble with ranking places one lived is that places change. London in the middle 1980s was great. London in the 2000s is unpleasant. So I could have London at the top and near the bottom of the list at the same time.
The trouble with ranking places one lived is that places change. London in the middle 1980s was great. London in the 2000s is unpleasant. So I could have London at the top and near the bottom of the list at the same time.
No such concerns with Moss Point, Mississippi.
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