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Tuesday, September 25, 2018

Marlins Finish With Lowest Home Draw Since 2004 Expos

Glenn Geffner @GlennGeffner

A little unfair that this is a narrative. Buried in story then essentially overlooked, Jeter said in Spring team would announce lower tix sold number. Had club used tix distributed as in past & like many clubs, total would have been much higher. Apples and Oranges. No doubt attendance is an issue and needs to get better. But with the enhancements this front office is making to the ballpark and to the fan experience, and as the team improves in the years ahead, it will get better.

Glenn Geffner is a radio play-by-play voice of the Marlins. I guess he should be glad they don’t report the turnstile counts, huh?

Bote Man Posted: September 25, 2018 at 09:12 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 25, 2018 at 11:58 AM (#5751355)
*fist pump*
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 25, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5751367)
I wonder if they were expecting fans to show up to watch Derek Jeter president the team.
   3. vortex of dissipation Posted: September 25, 2018 at 12:17 PM (#5751378)
Wouldn't the lowest home draw be nil-nil?
   4. Ziggy's screen name Posted: September 25, 2018 at 12:28 PM (#5751386)
They should relocate to Montreal.
   5. Zonk is One Individual Posted: September 25, 2018 at 12:30 PM (#5751390)
Next year, TWO DJs!
   6. Dan The Mediocre is one of "the rest" Posted: September 25, 2018 at 01:06 PM (#5751471)
I wonder if they changed how they report attendance because they knew the fire sale would cause attendance to plummet and they could use the fact of the change to try to pretend the drop is less than it actually was.
   7. catomi01 Posted: September 25, 2018 at 05:19 PM (#5751817)
I wonder if they changed how they report attendance because they knew the fire sale would cause attendance to plummet and they could use the fact of the change to try to pretend the drop is less than it actually was.


It would/will also make it easier to trumpet increases when they do manage to turn things around.
   8. A Baseball Fan Posted: September 25, 2018 at 05:56 PM (#5751839)
I've seen this movie before - They're trying to lose to break their lease and move to Miami.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: September 25, 2018 at 06:38 PM (#5751879)
An early autopsy ... thanks to being 6 games over their pythag, they're almost certain to avoid 100 losses. Despite being last in runs scored, the offense was almost tolerable -- 89 OPS+ overall, 94 OPS+ for position players, same as the Phils. Realmuto was excellent, Castro, Dietrick and Anderson were solid, Bour and Maybin were fine while they were here. The pitching was what you'd expect for a team unwilling to spend any money -- pretty damn bad, especially the bullpen where nobody seems to have cracked even a 100 ERA+ (Barraclough slumped terribly).

Seems to be plenty more misery on the way. This wasn't a team full of 22-year-old prospects, it was a season of sorting through the bunch of nobodies in their mid-late 20s. So the suffering with the kids as they learn is yet to come. It's way way too early to judge the trades but the early ML returns were not good. Lewis Brinson put up a 65 OPS+ with an OBP of 241. Magneuris Sierra put up a 27 OPS+ with 2 XBH in 143 PA (he's just 22). Starter Sandy Alcantara (22) was sort of OK in AAA and 5 starts in MLB but this is his second straight year with a sub-par K/9 by today's standards.

Attendance-wise, barring a ticket price drop or some offseason spending, we probably haven't seen the worst of it. There's nothing about the 2018 Marlins to give somebody a reason to want to see the 2019 Marlins. If they make a couple more trades (Castro's pretty obvious -- the Phils will probably want him for SS :-), there's even less reason.
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 25, 2018 at 07:37 PM (#5751919)
It would/will also make it easier to trumpet increases when they do manage to turn things around.

If they manage. I think a St. Louis Brownsian decade or more is quite possible here.
   11. Srul Itza Posted: September 25, 2018 at 07:49 PM (#5751926)
The pitching was what you'd expect for a team unwilling to spend any money -- pretty damn bad, especially the bullpen where nobody seems to have cracked even a 100 ERA+ (Barraclough slumped terribly).


I think you have undersold how bad it was.

Per BB-REF, of the 29 who toed the rubber for the Marlins at some point, only 2 had ERA+s above 91, and they accounted for a total of 38.33 innings pitched.

   12. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 25, 2018 at 09:03 PM (#5751989)
Nebraska Women's Volleyball draws more people per game than the Marlins, if we're going to be honest about the Marlins' true attendance figures.
   13. Bote Man Posted: September 25, 2018 at 10:27 PM (#5752054)
Well, at least Loria bilked the taxpayers of Florida and Dade County to get a shiny new indoor soccer stadium for his team to play in, so there's that.
   14. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: September 25, 2018 at 11:40 PM (#5752090)
I think you have undersold how bad it was.

Per BB-REF, of the 29 who toed the rubber for the Marlins at some point, only 2 had ERA+s above 91, and they accounted for a total of 38.33 innings pitched.

The Reds had arguably a worse pitching staff. The Reds have a very slightly worse R/G, but Miami has fewer unearned runs and a considerably worse ERA+. The Reds had the worst FIP at 4.67; Miami was second-worst with 4.57. The Marlins' attendance death spiral concluding with a four-game series against Cincinnati was fitting.

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