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I think Joey should go to the guy's site and high-five with him.
IIRC, a few high-profile guys/pubs in pre-season picked the Marlins last in the east, and Joey did log on here during the opening Marlins/Nats series and say he thought the Marlins were a much better team. But I agree with Shooty in that I haven't seen any systematic trashing/mockery of the Marlins or of Beinfest here at BTF. The last couple of years, Ricciardi, Wade, and Minaya have been catching much of the BTF flak.
I do recall a few guys at BPro and a few posters at BTF really pissing on Kenny Williams pre-2005.
Soap, mister.
That's because it is a vague straw horse argument. He hasn't complained about anyone specifically saying anything. The problem, sez he, is that the zombies have ignored the Marlins. You can't debate that. It's a vague statement about a loose association of people who have chaotic rambling arguments.
I think it's appropriate that we're feeding the troll a steady diet of zombie movies.
Hey now. I won't do him near the justice he deserves, but if John were here he'd point out that the line for hating Loria starts at the back of him, and whoever's in second better pull up a chair 'cause he's going to need a while.
#### you and the Franco-Prussian War.
How many folks can name the actual GM in Florida?
(But I agree with you about Beinfest's abilities, even if he's not technically the GM any longer).
Dillweed is as dillweed does, son.
I don't think you're alone. This guy has to be the most anonymous FO exec in the sport. And I'm sure by this time next week, I'll have forgotten his name again.
Agreed.
Boy, that's a ... résumé.
Do you have any other suggestions? I've actually been going to bookstores and asking people (employees typically, but also random people in the store who seem nice) if they can recommend any other 'serious literature... with zombies in it.' I mostly get laughed at. I've heard about Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, but I haven't really been able to locate much else.
"A Pentacle for Lebowitz"
Hard to connect it to zombies.
Still have fond memories of the Loria riot game at the big O.
I hate it when Albert Belle and the Franco-Prussian War have a chaotic, rambling argument.
Seconded. While you might think it sounds similar to Twilight or True Blood (boy falls in love with vampire), it basically wipes the floor with those two works.
I just finished the book -- it's excellent as well, and gives a lot more backstory without revealing too much. The author also wrote the screenplay.
Yes, it's just a different order of achievement altogether. I am not happy about the remake, but oh well.
Let's get back to the Marlins, and forget I said anything.
Okay, I am missing the connection. Are the Marlins run by a cloistered order?
Agreed. Miller had a strange career. A seven-year flurry of decent-to-good short stories, a brilliant novel, and forty years later an unfinished sequel to that novel.
sorry but respecting the marlins is on par with respecting Palin/Moore/Limbaugh, it requires the lack of functioning brains cells to take serious
seriously, why would anyone get upset about their team not getting respect when the idiot fans just don't care.
Uhhh, "Walking Dead" by Robert Kirkman is a pretty awesome zombie comic book. So there's that. And in his letters pages he talks about (among other things) all kinds of things dealing with the zombie genre, so you could probably/possibly get more suggestions from that.
For some reason, though, the saddest thing I've seen all night are the football yard-line markers all over the field in Oakland.
They were consumed by zombies, duh.
Homer: Jump, Free Willy. Jump! Jump with all your might!
Woman: Oh, no. Willy didn't make it. And he crushed our boy!
Man: Ew. What a mess.
Homer: Ohh, I don't like this new director's cut.
"We're not selling jeans here!"
Just got home from a long afternoon, evening, and night of sipping on Bombay gimlets and was looking for a thread just like this.... and sure enuff, it's the most active thread.
Having a love for post-apocalyptic, fiction - I give Leibowitz a big thumbs up... even though I thought the 3rd novella, Fiat Voluntas Tua/Let Thy Will Be Done felt awfully tacked on - like an epilogue made overlong to fill a few more pages.
It's neither a (technically) a zombie novel nor a post-apocalyptic novel - but I think it fits the trope - I just finished reading The Assault on Tony's, by John O'Brien of Leaving Las Vegas fame (he killed himself before finishing it - his sister completed it). I think it's very much a novel that most primates would enjoy and highly recommend it.
This. Fido is excellent.
Among underappreciated zombie pseudo-comedies, I also recommend Cemetery Man (AKA Dellamorte Dellamore, directed by Michele Soavi). Not for everyone's taste, but some absolutely fantastic moments.
I wish they hadn't published the sequel. It wasn't even close to the standard set by the first book.
Sometimes, the author knows best, y'know? (exceptions like Dead Souls to the contrary, of course)
Someone throw a bucket of water on this guy before he melts.
No, it's there. Allll the way at the bottom. It's hard to see around the hotlinked Geocities gifs, but it's there.
True that. Miller didn't even write the whole thing. He committed suicide before it was done, and someone named Terry Bisson finished it.
I disagree.
I also thought that Let The Right One In was kinda crappy, though it did have a few good moments. It succeeded in what it tried to achieve; I just thought that its success was rather mediocre.
As for the Marlins, I have to admit that I spared them a thought sometime this afternoon when I realized that they were pretty close to the Giants in Wild Card contention. My thought was, '#### the Marlins.' I'm still bitter about 2003.
Wait ... the fuck?
Ooh, that was tasty. Hi, guy-of-whom-I-have-never-heard-despite-his-best-efforts! I'd respond to your article more fully, but it's filled with these bizarre, non-numerical symbols and I am thus unable to interpret it. Because I am a stat-zombie exclusively, you'll have to break this down into the groans that match my own brain-desiring wavelength. Also, I hate baseball.
Your follow-up post only further cements in my mind the fact that you posted the original article here in attempt to lure your perceived "enemy" and apply the smackdown. You failed, and now you're whining about it. Articles are not here for us to engage in a measured debate with the author; we are individuals with free wills who can talk about whatever we damn well please. The appearance of your article here did not have the desired troll-effect, other than incurring the wrath of a few hotheads such as myself. We are under no obligation to defend how we enjoy baseball when people want to attack it. Sorry, but zombie movies are just more interesting than the tired old things you have to say.
Seriously Paul, I don't really care about your site or your opinion. I've heard your views stated in various ways so many times by so many different people that it's becoming like white noise to me. You're not the final word on baseball to be reckoned with any more than the people posting on this site are. I don't represent the entire SABR-educated community, nor does this site, and I'm not a cell in one giant brain rising up against you (though that does sound delicious...). Personally, from me to you, go to hell. I say that not as a "stat-zombie" defending the values of all of the other zombies who think exactly like me; I say it as someone who enjoys having conversations with the intelligent, witty, goofy bastards on this site, and who doesn't like being stereotyped. Seriously, go #### yourself. That's not about you representing the old-school way of baseball-thought, it's not about "dueling ideologies", it's about you being a self-righteous, bigoted #########. #### off.
And by the way, zombies don't eat each other, they eat humans.
Somebody's going to get their ass kicked by Treder!
And you wonder why few people outside their realm take them seriously? You wonder why they're ridiculed? You wonder how one of the Padres stat zombies had the audacity to walk up to then-manager Bruce Bochy and suggest that he bat pitcher Woody Williams second? How a caller insisted to Mike Francesa that switch-hitter and borderline Hall of Famer Jorge Posada bat lefty against a left-handed pitcher because the numbers said it was a good idea?
Why is that a bad idea - if the numbers suggest that Posada might better as a LH vs lefties, why not try it? I seem to recall at least a handful of others doing the exact same thing.
Of course he's going to keep talking about us. He probably got 6 months traffic in a single day, thanks to us. But we'll get bored, like we did with Bad News Cubs and Jesus Melendez and it's back to 3 digit city.
I thought about posting some comments about my favorite zombie movies, but I got tired of waiting for the site to load.
I think self-linkers (of which this is but a variety) are right down there with Nazis and child-molesters. Never before has it been quite as true: they should have their children taken away.
There is a place for comments, at the very bottom. I did throw one in there, primarily to see where it would go and if it joined other comments. As of now, it's merely disappeared. It's kind of hard to engage him in conversation if the site doesn't really allow for visible comments. I'll be damned if I join Twitter just for the privilege of talking to him.
According to Repoz's family tree posted in 59, that comment was submitted by Mid-West Capo Jeff Lung. So it may very well be genuine, but it's probably the equivalent of a wife serving as an alibi.
My biggest problem with this guy is not that he comes from the "old school" as he would have it--hell, 95% of the baseball fans I know don't know a damn thing about sabermetrics, including my mother--it's that he insists on creating this "ideology-war" paradigm and tries to make this site into public enemy number one. I have no baseball ideology. Stats make baseball more fun for me to watch. The end.
To be the champ, you have to beat the champ.
you wheelin', dealin', kiss stealin', limousine ridin', jet flyin' son of a gun...
WHich is why zombie movies are ridiculous. Take 28 Days Later. These are hyper, starving zombies that viciously attack anything that moves....except for the zombie, you know, standing right next to them. What, there's some kind of zombie code? Do their have a court system with smarmy defense attorneys and cynical, exhausted public defenders? That makes as much sense as Chewbacca on the planet Endor.
Though that doesn't really make sense either because how are new zombies made then if the old zombies are eating all the potential new zombies? The survival rate of the new organism is pretty stupid. I'd call them an evolutionary hiccup.
Zombies sustain themselves by consuming the flesh of the living, because it provides them with what they cannot produce for themselves, their flesh being dead and rotting. The rotten sack of flesh next to them is no more nutritious for them than a sack of rotted potatoes would be for us.
The article as posted is so mendacious and boring that I'd rather discuss zombies than waste a second of my time on it, much as I'd rather talk about advanced defensive metrics on ZTF when someone posts a link to some dimwit's blog arguing that, if you'd just get your nose out of your spreadsheet, you could see that Infected and undead zombies are actually the exact same thing.
The best zombi non-fiction (didn't you know zombis are, or at least have been, real?) is The Serpent & the Rainbow.
And please don't think you know the book if you've only seen the movie.
Somebody's going to get their ass kicked by Treder!
No, this is simple, and has been covered already: dillweed is as dillweed does, son.
You now have my attention.
DB
The monsters in it aren't zombies, but you might enjoy "The House on the Borderland" by William Hope Hodgson. It has a lot of traits that are characteristic of the classic zombie yarn: A found journal that tells the protagonist's story, a secluded house besieged by monsters, a disease passed through wounds, etc. Full free text here.
I have long assumed that there are many talented writers that I've never heard of that I would enjoy. Now, armed with the knowledge that he is in fact the best of that lot, I've just saved an enormous amount of time.
It's true. Lindsay Lohan was killed in that car accident of a year or two ago and her lifeless body is being powered by the leftover cocaine in her system.
And the actuality is not too far from Symborski's Lohan theory. One active ingredient in zombi poisons behaves much like cocaine.
To be fair, a sack of rotten potatoes would be nutritious for us. It might taste like ####, it might make you sick, but it would still provide the things we would get from non-rotten potatoes.
Herpes? Or is that just me?
Thank you, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip Szymborski.
Upon further inspection, we realized they were (or used to be) apples.
BOSS-Paul (The Prince of New York) Lebowitz
UNDERBOSS-Hanna The Equestrian
CONSIGLIERE-Jane (She-Fan) Heller
MID-WEST CAPO-Jeff (Red State) Lung
MID-WEST UNDERBOSS-Allen (Blue State) Krause
ENFORCER-Frightening Barbara Lebowitz
SOLDIERS-Joe the Sometime Stat Zombie, Gabriel, Franklin, David and Norm
Who are these people?
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