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Sunday, December 02, 2012

Marlins not trading another superstar in Nashville

Now maybe if the Winter Meetings were being held in Midgetville...(obligatory Brattain sky point)

President of Baseball Operations Larry Beinfest hadn’t made the connection. It wasn’t until he was asked during a conference call earlier this week that he was reminded the Winter Meetings were back in Nashville, where in 2007 he traded away Miguel Cabrera.

“I never even thought about it until now and it didn’t even register with me that it was there,” Beinfest said. “I didn’t think about it like, ‘Oh god, we’re going back to Nashville. That’s where we made the Miguel/Dontrelle [Willis] trade. I never even thought about it until just now.

“I wish it would have worked out better for us. It didn’t. We thought we got the right guys at that time and it didn’t work out. In terms of that trade and re-visiting it, I don’t think we’ll spend a lot of time on it.”

...According to one front office executive who checked in on Stanton, the Marlins told teams they were building around Stanton. He is not arbitration eligible until after the 2013 season and won’t qualify for free agency until after 2016. He just turned 23 last month and already is among the game’s elite power hitters.

“Our plans for him in ‘13 are to be our right fielder and to be in the middle of our lineup,” said Beinfest, adding that he had not spoken with Stanton since the Blue Jays trade. “It was an emotional time so I’m kind of taking everything with a grain of salt. I can’t speak for Giancarlo’s feelings because those are his feelings, but these things sometimes take a little time to settle down and see clearer, and that’s kind of what we’re going through right now.”

Repoz Posted: December 02, 2012 at 11:25 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: December 02, 2012 at 12:06 PM (#4314530)
“I never even thought about it until now"


Probably because he didn't make that trade decision, Loria did.

these things sometimes take a little time to settle down and see clearer


It's hard to see the situation much clearer, bub.
   2. Misirlou has S.C.M.O.D.S Posted: December 02, 2012 at 12:52 PM (#4314544)
No way they trade Stanton until next year.
   3. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: December 02, 2012 at 12:58 PM (#4314547)
the Marlins told teams they were building around Stanton.


Yes, but they were lying.
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 02, 2012 at 12:58 PM (#4314548)
No way they trade Stanton until next year.

First they need to sign him to a huge back-loaded contract.
   5. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 02, 2012 at 01:07 PM (#4314556)
Loria revolutionizes pro-sports with his latest innovation - taxpayer-funded contracts. Think of all the jobs Stanton creates!
   6. puck Posted: December 02, 2012 at 01:52 PM (#4314588)
Looking over the trade, one of the prospects traded, Burke Badenhop, had since been traded to the Rays. The Rays just traded him to the Brewers for Raul Mondesi Jr.

That's interesting; Junior is coming off a .656 OPS season at Helena in the Pioneer league, with 14 walks and 87 strikeouts in 298 PA. But presumably the Rays see some tools in the kid. So, like father, like son? Though in contrast, looks like Senior did pretty well as a 19-yr old in rookie ball.
   7. JJ1986 Posted: December 02, 2012 at 01:58 PM (#4314590)
Mondesi's younger kid is the real prospect.
   8. Derb Posted: December 02, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4314591)
Kinda off topic, but I live within 15 minutes of where the winter meetings are being held. Anyone ever go to one of these? Is there anything to see or do? Any autographs to be had, or any chances of running into any GM's or agents? The hotel is a tourist attraction, and they have a very large Christmas light show going on, so I'm thinking of heading down there with my daughter to see what I can see, but I wouldn't mind some insight from people who have been there before...
   9. greenback calls it soccer Posted: December 02, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4314612)
I went to the Winter Meetings when they were here in Indianapolis. AFAICT there wasn't much open to the public, unless you were willing to pay a decent chunk of money (maybe $500). I guess that fee is reasonable if you see this as a convention for industry professionals.

So while walking around in the public areas, I ran into Tony La Russa of all people; he looked more fit than I realized and (because this is BBTF) he was sober. But since the winter meetings are run by the minor leagues, mainly what you see are hundreds, maybe thousands, of college kids, desperate for a sports job, any sports job.
   10. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: December 02, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4314620)
It feels bizarre to look at Miggy's B-R page and see that he now has more PA's with the Tigers than with the Marlins. Time flies, I guess.
   11. morineko Posted: December 02, 2012 at 03:18 PM (#4314624)
Mondesi has tools all right, but I think he's trying to hold them by the wrong end. He's nationally known for forgetting to touch home plate on a walkoff HR. The Brewers have a surplus of minor league outfielders--heck, they even have a pitcher with Helena who can play LF and has--so Mondesi was rather expendable; they need Badenhop to bolster the bullpen now and they won't need more outfielders for a while yet.
   12. Dale Sams Posted: December 02, 2012 at 03:26 PM (#4314629)
The Red Sox trade is to the Marlins trade
as the Braves 2011 season is to the Red Sox 2011 season.
   13. Tripon Posted: December 02, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4314644)
The winter meetings should always be in las Vegas.
   14. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 02, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4314648)
   15. Dan Posted: December 02, 2012 at 04:08 PM (#4314651)
Looking over the trade, one of the prospects traded, Burke Badenhop, had since been traded to the Rays. The Rays just traded him to the Brewers for Raul Mondesi Jr.


Burke Badenhop had nothing to do with this trade. He was in the Marlins organization for several years before the Rays traded for him last December. He spent all of 2012 in the Rays bullpen, and with an arbitration raise due, the Rays dumped him in this trade. He had absolutely nothing to do with the Marlins - Blue Jays trade.
   16. base ball chick Posted: December 02, 2012 at 04:26 PM (#4314660)
why anyone would believe anything the marlins say is beyond me. it's like lucy telling charlie brown she won't pull the football away THIS time.

and i bet stanton wants the heck off that team and he refuses to sign any long term deal. they'll probably trade him arb year #2 if he doesn't - then he won't be stuck there
   17. puck Posted: December 02, 2012 at 04:33 PM (#4314664)
Burke Badenhop had nothing to do with this trade. He was in the Marlins organization for several years before the Rays traded for him last December. He spent all of 2012 in the Rays bullpen, and with an arbitration raise due, the Rays dumped him in this trade. He had absolutely nothing to do with the Marlins - Blue Jays trade.


I'm just going off BB-ref:

Burke Badenhop transactions:

June 7, 2005: Drafted by the Detroit Tigers in the 19th round of the 2005 amateur draft. Player signed June 13, 2005.

December 4, 2007: Traded by the Detroit Tigers with Dallas Trahern (minors), Eulogio De La Cruz, Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller and Mike Rabelo to the Florida Marlins for Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis.

December 12, 2011: Traded by the Florida Marlins to the Tampa Bay Rays for Jake Jefferies (minors).

December 1, 2012: Traded by the Tampa Bay Rays to the Milwaukee Brewers for Raul Mondesi (minors).
   18. morineko Posted: December 02, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4314677)
Looks like Badenhop gets traded during or near the Winter Meetings a lot....
   19. caprules Posted: December 02, 2012 at 04:46 PM (#4314678)
IIRC (and I seem to rarely RC), there was a poster that went to the winter meetings some years ago and posted some updates. As I recall, he didn't get much interaction with front office folks, but did have good luck hanging out at the local coffee shop and overhear reporters swap gossip.
   20. catomi01 Posted: December 02, 2012 at 10:08 PM (#4314798)
I went a few years ago (mainly for the job fair) when it was in disney....got to meet cashman, and a few other big-wigs from the industry (no other GM's though)...was a great all around time
   21. Gamingboy Posted: December 03, 2012 at 12:00 AM (#4314885)
But who will be the Mystery team?

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