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1. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 06, 2010 at 08:12 PM (#3610006)For the same reason Americans seem to like to get tattoos of words in Japanese characters.
THAT was robbing some one of a home run.
EDIT: I saw Edmonds make a great HR-robbing catch against the Reds. He just took off in a dead sprint screaming like he just won the lottery. Edmonds' play would be on the opposite end of the celebration spectrum to this.
Apart from statute of limitations type stuff, Hiroshima wouldn't be the only one. The Dragons kinda sweet looking unis copied the Dodgers, the Giants looked like the Giants, etc...
When did scaling the wall become a Thing? Who are the earliest guys known for making this kind of play?
I remember Dave Winfield's cleats digging into the padding, but he didn't do that all the time, did he?
Bobby Valentine?
Who are the earliest guys known for making this kind of play?
Bobby Valentine?
Pete Reiser would have tried, but the walls kept taking him down.
Major League 3 did that already. A Japanese guy too.
I really meant, Who are the earliest guys known for regularly making, or even attempting, over-the-wall catches?
Japanese uniforms use English for the same reason Major League Soccer teams have names like DC United, Real Salt Lake, and Toronto FC. Those are the kinds of names that exist in soccer around the world, particularly among successful teams. Baseball is an American game, so the Japanese teams were named in the American style. All NPB names are in English, and so the uniforms are written in English. The name of the Hiroshima team is not koi, it's "Carp", so the team name is in English.
Similarly, J-League soccer team names include English, Italian, or Spanish elements.
There is a practical reason for using English rather than Japanese. For example, koi is commonly written ??, but this is akin to using italics for Latin scientific names. If I'm writing a scholarly article, I'd use ??, but if I was writing a poem or trying to evoke the image of the fish, I'd use the Chinese character: ?. Now imagine trying to read that from a distance, on a uniform. English (particularly the written variety) is compulsory in Japanese schools, so no one really has a problem reading uniforms.
Oh, and that's a fantastic catch! ?????????????
Yeah, it wouldn't unless he had really great range in his 17 innings at first base that year.
Ken Berry of the early-1970s White Sox did it on at least a couple of occasions.
I'm pretty sure that under MLB rules that ball would have been declared a homer. Well, that is if the umps had the balls to call the rulebook and I'm sure managers like LaRussa would make sure the ump didn't forget the rulebook.
Um, a hundred million Chinese people do that everyday.
There are different caligraphic styles to write the character instead of the staid typeface.
So even the Chinese have less than a 10% chance!
If they start doing stuff like that, do the Giants get to go after the Mets? Do the Dodgers get to sue the Royals?
There are more baseball fans in China than I realized.
Suddenly I have this weird memory of Dave Parker (!) making a catch like this -- is that even possible?
Didn't say it was impossible (many Japanese high schools use Chinese characters on their uniforms), only that Roman letters lend themselves better to uniform graphic design. On the flip side, kanji/hanzi lend themselves better to hat logos!
Bump Bailey, but it didn't work out too well.
Didn't know that. Good to know.
Only the single character team names though. A Chicago Bears hat would kick ass. The Cubs, less so.
Only the single character team names though. A Chicago Bears hat would kick ass. The Cubs, less so.
Here is what the Bears would look like
and here is what the cubs would look like
Yes, but how do you write "Duh Bears" in kanji?
Yaz in RF? His last season? Crashing into the stands? I doubt it. I'd thought his only game in the OF that year was his last career game, when they put him in LF.
According to BB-Ref, Yaz last played RF in 1980, when he played 4 games, starting 1, 15 innings total, and made 3 catches. Somebody else can try to find his three catches that season to see if any of them might have been home-run robberies in Fenway.
Actually, looking closer, according to BB-Ref, he only played RF 8 times total in his career and only made a grand total of 5 putouts there (he started 2 games each in 1965 and 1977; he had no total chances in the former season, 2 putouts in the latter).
Typically, though a few parks retain the four-foot wall in the corners (Anaheim and Chavez Ravine, and Fenway for the all of right field. There may be a few others. I can't think of any six-footers in MLB, though I can't say for sure.
Any way of looking up how long the home runs were? To what field they were hit?
He famously did so in the 1975 WS, going over the low wall in the RF corner to rob Morgan (?) and double up Griffey (?) at first. A great catch at a big moment, but not as "circus" as this one.
Like Evans' catch and the Devon White shoulda been triple play in the World Series, Nixon's catch was all the more impressive for the context in which it occurred. It was the first year the Braves got good, late in the season, big game against a division rival (Cincinnati, IIRC) and I think it actually ended the game with, at least, the tying run on base.
I still put White's catch at the top of the list.
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