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Wednesday, May 01, 2013

MASN: McCatty defends Strasburg; talks mechanics, unrealistic expectations

Latest round of McCatty remarks…

McCatty passionately defended Strasburg this afternoon, saying that the expectations that media members and fans have placed on Strasburg have reached unfair levels, with it getting to the point that Strasburg almost is in a no-win situation.

“You guys put these levels on this guy that are almost unrealistic. You see something so talented, which he is, and when you saw that he was at times so good, you expect it every time,” McCatty said. “... His standards are pretty high. I think your guys’ standards are higher. That’s my own personal opinion. I just want him to be him. I want him to be as good as he can be. Not what you guys expect.

“He’s doing pretty good. Is he going to do better? Yes. Let’s be realistic with the goals we think he should get. That’s just my opinion.”

...“I just want him to understand he’s human,” McCatty said. “... It’s something hopefully he gets better with. He’s pretty tough on himself. I wish that he wouldn’t be that way, but that’s part of his nature, that’s part of what’s made him as good as he is. And he’s going to be better. I think he’s going to be better when he’s able to realize that this is a game that’s built upon failure.

“He’s going to have a lot of successes, but he’s kind of a perfectionist kind of guy, and whatever he’s set his mind to do, he’s pretty much done. Sometimes at the big league level, this is pretty tough to do up here. ... Like I say, (media members) all say he’s struggling. He’s really not that bad. Could it be better? Sure. But it’s really not that bad.”

Repoz Posted: May 01, 2013 at 05:34 AM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: May 01, 2013 at 07:55 AM (#4430362)
McCatty passionately kissed Strasburg this afternoon

Fixed.

Wait, what?
   2. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: May 01, 2013 at 08:03 AM (#4430364)
It's never a good sign when teams start blaming the media for their players' issues.
   3. bunyon Posted: May 01, 2013 at 08:04 AM (#4430365)
with it getting to the point that Strasburg almost is in a no-win situation.

Yes. Exactly. No wins.
   4. morineko Posted: May 01, 2013 at 09:12 AM (#4430407)
“I just want him to understand he’s human,” McCatty said.

Has McCatty ever really looked closely at his pitcher? He's obviously an elf, and that's just the way elves pitch. They're all perfectionists, really persnickety, and they've had the same youth baseball pitching coach for two thousand years and he insists on teaching really bad mechanics.
   5. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: May 01, 2013 at 11:49 AM (#4430534)
We really need to get the Capitol Punishment translator going on this McCatty interview. I can't make heads nor tails out of it!
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 01, 2013 at 12:08 PM (#4430546)
You see something so talented, which he is..." “I just want him to understand he’s human,” McCatty said.


Then maybe stop describing him as a thing?
   7. DL from MN Posted: May 01, 2013 at 12:09 PM (#4430548)
Steve McCatty is getting quite a bit of discussion in the 1981 MMP thread.
   8. smileyy Posted: May 01, 2013 at 12:29 PM (#4430577)
I don't think anyone's expecting him to be Dwight Gooden.

I mean, that's a ridiculous amount of cocaine to expect a guy to do.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 01, 2013 at 12:49 PM (#4430603)
I don't think anyone's expecting him to be Dwight Gooden.

You're right, the odds are he won't have nearly as good a career as Doc.
   10. KT's Pot Arb Posted: May 01, 2013 at 01:42 PM (#4430690)
You're right, the odds are he won't have nearly as good a career as Doc


Yes, 43 more WAR seems insurmountable.

Wait, you talking about cocaine? Yea, that's insurmountable too.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 01, 2013 at 02:41 PM (#4430796)
Yes, 43 more WAR seems insurmountable.

I thought you were a betting man? You shouldn't take the over on 43 more career WAR for any pitching phenom.

That's 10 well above average seasons. No young pitcher is an even-money bet to do that.
   12. Zach Posted: May 01, 2013 at 02:52 PM (#4430815)
Maybe shutting Strasburg down during the team's first pennant run in forever has something to do with inflated expectations.
   13. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: May 01, 2013 at 03:49 PM (#4430888)

Maybe shutting Strasburg down during the team's first pennant run in forever has something to do with inflated expectations.


Seven years is a long time, but forever?
   14. Natty Fan Posted: May 01, 2013 at 04:13 PM (#4430915)
When Strasburg first came up, I noticed his demeanor was "all business," and he seemed to be especially hard on himself when he gave up hits. To me, he seemed similar to Justin Verlander, and I thought, "What a fiery competitor."

Sometime late last year, my perception of his demeanor started to change. It seems to me that he becomes angry with himself at some point during every game -- yelling at himself and demonstrably agitated -- even when he's pitching well. I'm beginning to think this isn't constructive. You can only berate yourself so much before your own negative thoughts start to chip away at your confidence. Some of McCatty's comments seem to confirm this for me.

#12 -- This is silly. Expectations aren't any higher this year b/c of the shutdown. They've been sky-high since the moment he became the consensus "greatest college pitching prospect ever" in 2010.
   15. Dale Sams Posted: May 01, 2013 at 04:20 PM (#4430927)
5 QS out of 6 starts this year...120 ERA+ 1.2 WHIP...what's the issue here?
   16. Walt Davis Posted: May 01, 2013 at 05:53 PM (#4431056)
what's the issue here?

Run support ... err, I mean wins, PRECIOUS WINS!
   17. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: May 01, 2013 at 09:57 PM (#4431357)
#12 -- This is silly. Expectations aren't any higher this year b/c of the shutdown. They've been sky-high since the moment he became the consensus "greatest college pitching prospect ever" in 2010.
No, I do think expectations have been higher this year for him and the team. The shutdown essentially told the world that the Nats were willing to sacrifice the 2012 run because they wanted to make sure Strasburg was going to be there for all the other playoff runs that were coming up, starting with 2013.
   18. jdennis Posted: May 01, 2013 at 10:23 PM (#4431375)
#17

yeah, but in 2010 people thought Strasburg was going to win 20 a year for 20 years and throw a no hitter in all 20 as well and have a career ERA under 2
   19. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: May 01, 2013 at 11:07 PM (#4431403)
yeah, but in 2010 people thought Strasburg was going to win 20 a year for 20 years and throw a no hitter in all 20 as well and have a career ERA under 2

Heh, I like how you phrase that as though it were impossible!
   20. bjhanke Posted: May 02, 2013 at 06:01 AM (#4431508)
Comment #1 - Have you ever SEEN Susan Strasburg? If I ever get the chance, I'm going to kiss her, too.

#7 - Steve McCatty had a pretty damn good 1981 season. Even Win Shares liked it, and that system can be hard on pitchers. Also, the Most Meritorious Player project is really worth while. Focusing on one year at a time allows you to see details that you would miss if you were looking at a longer time frame. I recommend it highly.

#14 - Natty Fan's description of Strasburg sounds a lot like my impression of David Cone when he was with the Mets. Every so often he'd just blow up and lose control of both the game and himself. I got some heat for thinking this from Cone fans who saw him later in his career, when he presumably calmed down some, but take a look at the Orel Hersheiser comment in the New Historical Abstract (which only covers years through 2000). Bill James makes up what he himself calls a "garbage stat" called The Index of Self-Destructive Acts. You know HBP, WP, bad fielding. The absolute worst index belonged to - you guessed it - David Cone. Nolan Ryan had the second-worst, which also made sense, since Nolan never compromised, and that will cause you to self-destruct from time to time. I hope that isn't happening to Strasburg. - Brock Hanke
   21. God Posted: May 02, 2013 at 07:08 AM (#4431519)
I thought you were a betting man? You shouldn't take the over on 43 more career WAR for any pitching phenom.

That's 10 well above average seasons. No young pitcher is an even-money bet to do that.


Kershaw is the same age as Strasburg and I'd say he's an outstanding bet to do that.
   22. Lassus Posted: May 02, 2013 at 07:28 AM (#4431525)
Wait, you talking about cocaine? Yea, that's insurmountable too.

You do not know the right people.
   23. bobm Posted: May 02, 2013 at 11:34 PM (#4432621)
Maybe he can teach Strasburg how to throw a spitter. From TFA in the Buchholz thread:

[Jack] Morris said he never threw a spitter in a game.

"One game I tried it in the bullpen and that's why I know," he said. "It was back against Oakland when Billy [Martin] was in Oakland. He had Matt Keough, Mike Norris, Rick Langford and Steve McCatty. Every one of those guys was throwing a spitter; every one of them. The reason I know is I was pitching against Mike Norris and back in those days they wouldn't throw balls out, and they were all full of [stuff].
   24. Mayor Blomberg Posted: May 03, 2013 at 12:15 AM (#4432640)
Have you ever SEEN Susan Strasburg? If I ever get the chance, I'm going to kiss her, too.


Umm, wait, the Susan Straburg who died in 1999? Take it to the Jason Collins thread.

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