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Thursday, November 17, 2011
While we’re on the subject of statues…
Remember those rumblings about the Orioles doing something more concrete at Camden Yards to honor their six Hall of Famers? Turns out those plans are finally out in the open - and the finished products will be in bronze.
A club source has confirmed the Orioles will erect bronze statues of their players enshrined in the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, N.Y. - Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Jim Palmer, Earl Weaver, Eddie Murray and Cal Ripken Jr. - in an area beyond the bullpen in left-center field as part of the ballpark’s 20th anniversary celebration in 2012.
...Now, Brooks will be joined by the other five O’s Hall of Famers in a newly configured ballpark picnic area. The official announcement from the club is will be made later, as will details about how and when the statues will debut. My guess - and this is just educated speculation - is that the Orioles will maximize the impact of each statue by having six different ceremonies, each one representing and attended by one of their most heralded players.
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Posted: November 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM | 37 comment(s)
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1. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The ShipI suppose Earl Weaver was technically one of the Orioles' players, but I'd strongly recommend basing the statue on his managerial days.
Or Little Looie?
Aparicio only had 5 years with the Orioles but Frank Robinson only had 6. The difference may be that the plaque for Robinson had an Oriole caps while Aparicio sported the White Sox chapeau.
Aparicio only had 5 years with the Orioles but Frank Robinson only had 6. The difference may be that the plaque for Robinson had an Oriole caps while Aparicio sported the White Sox chapeau.
It also may have something to do with Robinson's being a slightly better player than Little Looie, and having played on four Orioles pennant winners and two championship teams, not just one. If you were going to start including non-HoFers, then Powell, McNally, Cuellar, Singleton, Flanagan and Rick Dempsey would be better choices, since they're far more associated with Baltimore than any other team. There may be others, but those are the ones that jump out.
[Besides Matt Wieters, of course]
I mean, maybe Mussina? Maybe? Perhaps Brian Roberts (although that paragraph in the Mitchell Report and his injuries work against him)?
Boog's statue is made of barbecued pork.
Mussina's a likely HOFer, IMO, but he's not going in as an Oriole. He should have been a lifer, but Angelos is evil. Also, him not being remotely that good doesn't help.
no love for Andy Etchebarren?
If you had to pick an Oriole 2B who has been left out, Bobby Grich would be the guy. But in between the facts that A) he seems to have no realistic chance at election and B) he'd probably go in as an Angel even if he did, there's not much there either.
Why do you say that? Who couldn't love this handsome adonis?
It's a shame that Roberts isn't good enough to be a viable candidate, because I've always liked him as a player, and also because he'd be an interesting test of how voters approach steroids. The accusation against Roberts in the Mitchell Report is that while living with users Larry Bigbie and David Segui (and not himself using), he told Bigbie that he'd injected himself once or twice, and then decided it was a bad idea. His apology after the report came out was essentially a repetition of the accusations against him. Of all of the players who've said they've only used once or twice, his claim seems by far the most credible. Would voters keep him out just for being the the Mitchell Report? Does the context of the inclusion mean anything? Is any acknowledged steroid use enough to keep a player out? A better Roberts would answer some of these questions for us.
I don't think anyone cares about steroid use if you don't play first base, break home run records or are named Roger Clemens. Sheffield appears to get a total pass on it, for example.
He should be going in as an Oriole. He spent more time there and was better there. Still, he's kind of on the borderline of where the Hall of Fame might step in and determine which cap he'd wear. If forced to guess, I suspect they'd defer to him if he felt strongly about it.
It isn't his call.
Now, the Hall may defer to his wishes, but if the guys in Cooperstown say he's wearing an O's cap, well, he's largely out of luck.
I suspect they will, but it's no guarantee.
Or Babe Ruth.
Actually, why isn't the Babe honoured with a statue in Baltimore? Hell, they shoulda named the stadium Babe Ruth Park at Camden Yards. (Seriously.)
He already is.
There ain't very many. George Sisler and Bobby Wallace are the only HOFers I can think of primarily associated with the Browns.
On the other hand they could honor the core of the 1890s Baltimore Orioles dynasty: Jennings, Kelley, McGraw and Keeler (all HOFers though McGraw more for his managing of other teams).
Can't say I blame them. And if the Orioles ever took flight to some other clime, I'm sure that the new city would try to expunge the Angelos years.
looking positively svelte
If the Cincinnati Reds can claim the Cincinnati Redstockings and Fred Wilpon can claim the Brooklyn Dodgers for the Mets, then the Baltimore Orioles can claim the various Baltimore Oriole franchises of the past.
It's because it's him as a kid at St. Mary's. That is also why he has a right-handed glove: The school was too poor to have lefty gloves, so growing up Babe used righty gloves.
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