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Matt Adams is showing he can hit lefties | MLB.com

What’s going to happen to Adams when Freeman comes back?

“I know that I hit lefties all the way up through the [Minor League levels],” Adams said. “Up here, it’s just been about getting everyday [at-bats] against them. That’s the nice thing here, knowing I’m going to be in there against a lefty or a righty. That confidence helps big time for sure.”

Jim Furtado Posted: June 18, 2017 at 09:24 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Cargo Cultist Posted: June 18, 2017 at 12:02 PM (#5478256)
Well, Adams has played a little LF. They can have a good DH/PH/backup 1B, an LF in a rearranged defense, or a nice little trade chit.

This is a good problem to have.
   2. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: June 18, 2017 at 12:18 PM (#5478258)
What’s going to happen to Adams when Freeman comes back?


They either:

1) Trade Matt Kemp and install Adams in LF (which they've said they're not interested in doing,) or...

2) They trade Adams (which seems odd, barring a really good return,) or...

3) One of Lane Adams or Danny Santana are punted back down the road to Gwinnett again. (Johan Carmago, as a fill in option up the middle, seems safe.)

If I were a betting man, I'd run with #3 as the primary bet.
   3. puck Posted: June 18, 2017 at 12:19 PM (#5478259)
I looked up his splits expecting some sort of small sample size...it is, 25 PA, but not what I expected. .208/.240/.500 line vs lefties.
   4. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 18, 2017 at 01:30 PM (#5478274)
Clayton Kershaw found out all about this in the playoffs.
   5. cardsfanboy Posted: June 18, 2017 at 02:31 PM (#5478297)
I looked up his splits expecting some sort of small sample size...it is, 25 PA, but not what I expected. .208/.240/.500 line vs lefties.


Only 22 pa as a Brave with a line of .238/.273/.571/.844 (2 hr)
   6. The Duke Posted: June 18, 2017 at 03:44 PM (#5478321)
I chuckle at people who say "he's played a little lf". It is somewhat akin to bringing in your backup SS in to pitch in a blowout and then saying you have an extra man on your pitching staff. I guess it is technically true but........

Adams got thrown into LF for a few games with no prior experience or practice. He was terrible. No team in their right mind would do that (except Mike matheny).

Can he play left field after an off season of deep practice - maybe.

Adams is a better than average 1B/Dh/pinch hitter. If someone needs that then he has value but the market is saturated with these kind of guys and he is no longer cheap.

He's a great guy and I hope he finds a home.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: June 18, 2017 at 08:08 PM (#5478404)
Freeman was originally expected to miss 8 weeks which would bring him back mid-July. The Braves should be able to easily trade Adams (for not very much) before the deadline or during the Aug waiver trade time. Or if they want to hold onto him, they only have to live another 6 weeks before rosters expand. And that's assuming that Freeman makes it back on schedule.

They trade Adams (which seems odd, barring a really good return,)

I'm not sure why it seems odd. They gave up basically nothing for him and, once Freeman returns, he has no role to play on the 2017 or 2018 Braves and might get non-tendered anyway (probably $4-5 M next year in arb). The Yanks should be interested. If any of them are still in the WC chase, any of Tex, Sea or LAA might be interested. Unless Freeman is not back on schedule.
   8. cardsfanboy Posted: June 18, 2017 at 10:09 PM (#5478432)
He's been one of the better pinch hitters of the past few years.... He has value in that role... since 2015 pinch hitters stats.

Pinch hit appearances from 2015-2017 sorted by total bases. (I used total bases because it combines pa and effectiveness, and then you can look at the rates and see...
Rk                   Player  H  PA  AB  R 2B 3B HR RBI   BA  OBP   SLG   OPS TB
1             Ichiro Suzuki 35 156 139 12  5  1  1  13 .252 .316  .324  .640 45
2                Matt Adams 24  75  72  7  5  0  4  19 .333 .333  .569  .903 41
3             Brett Wallace 25 107  95 11  3  0  4  16 .263 .346  .421  .767 40
4           Philip Gosselin 28 119 112 10  6  0  1   8 .250 .277  .330  .608 37
5               Ryan Raburn 17  88  71  9  4  1  4  19 .239 .386  .493  .879 35
6           Daniel Descalso 20 100  86 19  0  1  4  12 .233 .333  .395  .729 34
7             Kelly Johnson 14  75  67  7  3  0  5  13 .209 .280  .478  .758 32
8                 Adam Lind 15  57  48 10  4  0  4  16 .313 .421  .646 1.067 31
9             Matthew Joyce 16 104  80 14  3  0  4  15 .200 .385  .388  .772 31
10            Andres Blanco 17  93  82  8  8  0  2  10 .207 .293  .378  .672 31
11                John Jaso 20  69  59  8  4  0  2  13 .339 .435  .508  .943 30
12        Jeremy Hazelbaker 16  56  54  9  2  0  4  11 .296 .321  .556  .877 30
13               Aaron Hill 19  72  59  9  7  0  1  15 .322 .403  .492  .894 29
14              Greg Garcia 20  79  66  8  3  0  2   4 .303 .410  .439  .850 29
15          Conor Gillaspie 13  77  69 10  3  2  3  13 .188 .260  .420  .680 29
16         Alejandro De Aza 19  84  72 11  2  0  2   4 .264 .357  .375  .732 27
17              Matt Szczur 19  94  87 12  3  1  1   9 .218 .266  .310  .576 27
18             Stephen Drew 10  46  41  5  1  1  4  11 .244 .326  .610  .936 25
19            Alex Guerrero 13  53  51  4  3  0  3  11 .255 .283  .490  .773 25
20           Jeff Francoeur 19  80  72  7  3  0  1  15 .264 .325  .347  .672 25
21           Skip Schumaker 19  81  78  2  6  0  0   7 .244 .272  .321  .592 25
22           Clint Robinson 15  98  85  9  4  0  2   8 .176 .276  .294  .570 25 



Obviously in the off season he has more trade value now than he did when the Cardinals traded him, but a panic trade of him doesn't make sense, you use him as much as you can to get value, you trade him in the off season to an AL team that could use a guy like him.. of course since he is actually a good defender at first, that opens up more trading avenues to pursue, but his ultimate strength is going to be his bat.

If you can't get at least a 3rd best reliever for him, then you aren't doing a good job.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: June 19, 2017 at 06:33 PM (#5478851)
Disagree. Matt Adams has almost no value in today's game as his meager arb contracts (along with the meager contracts of Chris Carter, Mark Reynolds, etc.) show. There's certainly no longer room for a PH specialist who can't play anything but 1B ... that's been true for a decade at least.

And I can't see any reason he'd have more value in the offseason than mid-season. He had no value this offseason, gained value mid-season because a 1B got hurt somewhere. He'll have value at this trade deadline if there is a contending team in need of a useful 1B/DH. He'll lose that value in the offseason when he is once again competing with Carter, Reynolds, etc. He's set for an arb award in the range of $4-5 M and there's a good chance Atl will non-tender him rather than pay that. He certainly has close to zero value for the Braves once Freeman is back.
   10. wjones Posted: June 20, 2017 at 01:23 PM (#5479222)
Disagree. Matt Adams has almost no value in today's game as his meager arb contracts (along with the meager contracts of Chris Carter, Mark Reynolds, etc.) show. There's certainly no longer room for a PH specialist who can't play anything but 1B ... that's been true for a decade at least.

And I can't see any reason he'd have more value in the offseason than mid-season. He had no value this offseason, gained value mid-season because a 1B got hurt somewhere. He'll have value at this trade deadline if there is a contending team in need of a useful 1B/DH. He'll lose that value in the offseason when he is once again competing with Carter, Reynolds, etc. He's set for an arb award in the range of $4-5 M and there's a good chance Atl will non-tender him rather than pay that. He certainly has close to zero value for the Braves once Freeman is back.



Well listening to some fans on Braves sites (expected) and a couple of the Braves pre-game studio analysts (they should be fired) they may try Adams out at 3b. I groan every time I see or hear this.
   11. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: June 20, 2017 at 02:52 PM (#5479328)
they may try Adams out at 3b.


This is 1) the first I've heard of this wondrously aberrant idea, 2) clearly insane, and 3) probably no worse in practice than moving Ken Caminiti to first.
   12. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: June 20, 2017 at 03:08 PM (#5479344)
I was so befuddled by the idea of Matt Adams, 3B, that I googlied up the headline to see where it originated. It's a "Tomahawk Take" bit, so pure fan site "what if" I guess. But to add insult to insanity, they also float the idea of trading Nick Markakis and playing Adams in RIGHT. Because an OF defense of Matt Kemp in left and Matt Adams in right would be...

Oh #### it. It'd be entertaining as hell if you didn't care about getting the ball back in.
   13. wjones Posted: June 20, 2017 at 03:29 PM (#5479364)
I was so befuddled by the idea of Matt Adams, 3B, that I googlied up the headline to see where it originated. It's a "Tomahawk Take" bit, so pure fan site "what if" I guess. But to add insult to insanity, they also float the idea of trading Nick Markakis and playing Adams in RIGHT. Because an OF defense of Matt Kemp in left and Matt Adams in right would be...

Oh #### it. It'd be entertaining as hell if you didn't care about getting the ball back in.


Sam, I swear I've heard both Brian Jordan and Nick Green mention it on Braves Live as well. And as little as I think of the both of them anyway, it still shocked me.

As far as the OF idea goes, if you are crazy enough to try it, you'd have to put Kemp in right. Right?
   14. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: June 20, 2017 at 04:31 PM (#5479409)
I swear I've heard both Brian Jordan and Nick Green mention it on Braves Live as well.


I am not doubting you. I don't watch before or after game shows (and honestly, I've watched more UTD than Braves this year.) That said, it's a batshit crazy idea that I'd pay to see live, because why the hell not. 10.5 our of the division. 12 out of the WC. Put his ass at third, bruh. Let's see.
   15. Dock Ellis Posted: June 20, 2017 at 05:30 PM (#5479470)
I had thought the Yankees wouldn't be interested in another 1B with Greg Bird coming back from his ankle injury but now I see that he just fouled a pitch off his knee, so his return is delayed.

The Red Sox don't have much use for Matt Adams but the way they are running out of bodies...
   16. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: June 20, 2017 at 09:24 PM (#5479653)
And now, per Bowman, they're toying with putting FREEMAN at third when he returns. This is awesome. It's either utterly brilliant, or a train wreck. Who doesn't like watching trains wreck?
   17. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: June 20, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5479764)
I'm generally in favor of pushing players to the edge of the defensive spectrum to see what they can handle, but I don't think I like the idea of screwing with your best hitter as he returns from a serious injury, particularly with the rationale being that you have to make room for Matt Adams.

That said, if it works, it'd certainly open up some options for them. And, like Sam said, it'd be fun to watch either way. So make it happen, Braves!
   18. Cargo Cultist Posted: June 21, 2017 at 12:24 AM (#5479788)
#6 And I chuckle at your aggressively arrogant ignorance.

"Like the Cardinals before them, the Braves are debating the possibility of playing Adams in left field." - mlbtraderumors.com

Would you like some catsup with that plate of crow?
   19. PreservedFish Posted: June 21, 2017 at 12:32 AM (#5479794)
Freeman won't play an inning at third.
Adams will play a bit in leftfield. He'll suck.
He'll also stop hitting this well.
Soon we'll forget that there was ever a problem.
   20. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 21, 2017 at 12:39 AM (#5479799)
Last player to go from regular 1B for multiple seasons to 3B? Cabrera (although of course he had played 3B before), and then before him...?
   21. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: June 21, 2017 at 04:50 AM (#5479829)
Last player to go from regular 1B for multiple seasons to 3B? Cabrera (although of course he had played 3B before), and then before him...?

Let's see...

1. Kevin Youkilis. From 2006-2010 he was the Red Sox first baseman. In 2011 they traded for Adrian Gonzalez, and so Youkilis moved to third base.

2. Todd Zeile. In 2000 and 2001 he was the Mets everyday first baseman. In 2002 he was traded to the Rockies and became their everyday third baseman.

3. Ray Knight. In June of 1982 the Astros moved him from third to first, where he'd remain for the rest of the year, and in 1983 he spent the entire season (145 games) at first. He was then traded to the Mets, where he was the regular third baseman from 1984-1986.

That (plus Miggy) looks like the full list since WW2.
   22. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 21, 2017 at 09:32 AM (#5479890)
I originally looked up Youk, but it looked like when he was the 1B he still played a decent amount at 3B and vice versa.

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