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Pat Kelly: "I'd like to see you walk with the Lord, Skip."
Earl Weaver: "I'd rather see you walk with the bases loaded."
the NFL-ization of baseball... inevitable, I suppose, but still a sad thing.
Yeah, I'd say there's more than a bit of BS in Scott's comments. Whoever began that ridiculous "That one was for you, God" gesture, anyway? Or is the finger point supposed to mean that you're congratulating God for a "good play," the way a pitcher might point to a fielder?
He watches over us from down below.
His power and his glory darken every door.
Oh, Satan, Prince of Darkness, you're my Lord.
Hail Satan, you're my Lord.
Hail Satan, you're my Lord.
Hail Satan. Satan, you're my Lord.
He's pointing at the Great Gazoo. We just can't see him.
But wouldn't it be sending mixed messages if an employee of Larry Lucchino did that?
I'm sick and tired of people like Chris Truby and Dan Szymborski pointing to Satan after a home run.
and now I can take my repose (ntr Repoz) with a smile on my face.
Just call me Moncrief Lanier.
Hell?
And the phrase, Hell on Earth? Shouldn't it be 'Hell in Earth'?
I know they've been awfully wimpy since Vatican II but I'm pretty sure the Catholic Church is still not big on personal interpretation of the scripture. Or is the Pope now just the Chief Operating Officer?
They may have come out with a new mission statement during the reorganization which led to Cardinal Egan's claim that the Church was not legally responsible for priestly misconduct because priests are independent contractors. Or that might have been a shady (and unsuccessful) legal dodge. I'm not sure.
Maybe Mr. Scott should start taking Sundays off--never mind that God decided Saturday is the real Sabbath--if he wants to set an example of how self-titled fundamentalist Christians should behave Biblically. A guy* I knew in college--who probably never would have been a major leaguer but was a great college player--decided to not sign a pro contract after the Mariners drafted him, because he believed in the Decalogue and knew that not playing on Sundays was incompatible with a pro baseball career. To me, that's the kind of guy who could (but never would) cite the Bible to chastise others. Guys like Scott ... not so much.
*His name was Dave Stewart, though was no relation to the pitcher who starred for the A's and other teams.
Some are pointing to their grandparents, parents, friends, etc...
A lot of Catholics are not that beholden to Catholic doctrine.
Yes, I can still understand the jibes, but many if not most are not to "God" but more to "lost loved ones."
I can see both sides there, but it's definitely not just a "in your face, now worship my God" sort if vibe in many/most/or all cases..
Commander, I believe in God and his son Jesus Christ and because I do, I can say this: Private Santiago is dead, and that is a tragedy. But he is dead because he had no code. He is dead because he had no honor.
And God was watching.
Keifer Sutherland's character to be more specific.
Let he who is without sin throw the first beanball.
Blessed are the LOOGYs (and Evan Meek).
Render unto Selig what is Selig's and render unto Loria what is the Steinbrenners'.
What, are they guests on the Goodyear Blimp?
Then in what way are they Catholics?
Probably in the same way that one can be a Democrat without being beholden to their platform, or a Pavement fan that doesn't like Terror Twilight.
My experience is that about 5% of Catholics in most western countries take the entirety of Catholic doctrine seriously. If the Church wanted to be strict about this kind of thing, it would lose a huge amount of temporal power. Which is never, ever, ever going to happen.
Some are pointing to their grandparents, parents, friends, etc...
Nick Swisher and who else?
But hey, whatever works. And even though I'm with Earl Weaver on this one, I notice he let Pat Kelly hang around.
Although my experience is that when non-clergy feel the need to quote from the Bible, they are often rather proud of their knowledge. And is there really any evidence that God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble?
They identify as Catholics, attend Catholic Mass, give to the Catholic church and Catholic causes, etc. I assure you, most American Catholics are, for example, using birth control. And a whole hell of a lot of them are pro-choice.
Brian Wilson.
EDIT: And Tim Tebow.
You are correct sir.
Garza is symptomatic of two whole generations of Catholics whose religious education basically consisted of "Jesus is your pal, He loves you".
Many/most Catholics don't really know what the Church teaches or why.
In any case since the Catholic Church (and the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox) Churches predate the existence of the Bible, it would be pretty silly for them not to have the authority to interpret it.
They wrote it after all. (i.e. various Bishops composed the New Testament, and the Church decided which books, Old and New were canonical).
Sam, get a life.
Everything the bishops did in covering up abuse was in direct violation of Canon Law.
Do you criticize "The United States of America" for what you consider bad acts by George Bush and his administration or do you blame the actual actors?
And the bishops are more like governors than the President. Do you blame "The United States" b/c Mark Stanford cheated on his wife, or Blago is a thief?
Well, abortion is much, much worse than a war, or the death penalty, so I'm missing your point.
But, the Church doesn't teach dogmatically on the death penalty or the justness of a specific war. A Catholic is free to hold either opinion on the death penalty or the Iraq war and remain in good standing.
Really? Because Bernard Cardinal Law seems to have not suffered any consequences.
Of course. The policies of Bush were evil and vile and American to there rotten roots.
When the Church stops facilitating child rape and starts punishing those that do then the issue can begun to be addressed. As long as they're electing the facilitators to th See of Rome they're not worth much more than the rapists themselves.
Edit: And I say that while believing that Sam is, and remains, the worst human being on this board. A truly disgusting person.
But he's right.
Xoxo,
S/
(seriously. Do you even know me?)
S/
Who are you, Gossip Girl?
Wish cancer on babies one time and suddenly you're a monster. They could have been evil babies.
Terrible boil on humanity or not, at least he didn't allow his subordinates to exploit the authority of their positions to systematically rape thousands of innocent children.
So at least he's got that going for him.
Piggly Wiggly night managers don't usually have that kind of juice.
This is correct. The day a Catholic Bishop joins Primer is the day that Sam is no longer the worst member of the site.
You can't buy this kind of love.
Well, maybe in Vegas.
No
No
I'll go you one better: threads like this are evidence of the non-existence of God.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/10/26/
Did he say that Garza lusted after his lovers who had genitals the size of donkeys and whose emissions were like that of horses?
Could you blame him if he did? Garza isn't made of stone, after all.
Actually, that is precisely all that God worries about. Obsesses over it nonstop. That explains both Garza's fine season and the rest of what's going on in the world.
If my Catholic religious teaching, which was under the instruction of priests, has any relevance, they are definitely big on personal interpretation. Brecht would have admired the zeal to read the Bible critically.
I'm trying to form a mental image, here - can any of the farm-dwelling primates give me a rough estimate as to how big a donkey's vagina is?
Your mama's. I need a big one to keep me happy.
I'm not farm dwelling, but I know they're pretty big. When I was in Sardinia, my host took me to the veterinary clinic where his horse was being cared for. As we walked in, he introduced me to the veterinarian, who had to use her left hand to shake hands with me, because her entire arm was inserted in a horse's vagina.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Haven't played it, so could you elaborate?
He was, you know, President. Of America.
Well then, Angel Hernandez has a strike zone the size of a horse's vagina.
Yes there is. The Government of the United States of America. The people within the United States are absolutely responsible for the actions of the Government of the United States of America, in, at the VERY least, the macro sense.
This leads one to the distressing doubt that there's even an infinitessimal chance that Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs was correct when he said he was doing "god's work".
Do you have any evidence to disprove my assertion that there's a lime green Winnebago parked on the surface of Io?
Now prove that chance is how everything happened then we can put behind the silliness and actually have a discussion.
Whether or not you believe given the evidence that convinced you to your decision, it is the utmost arrogance that someone would think theirs is the only conceivable solution. (and yes it also applies to people that cannot see the alternative for or against the existence of a God)
Wernher von Braun:
MATT: Luke, I'm going to hell! The worst place in the world! With devils and those caves and the ragged clothing! And the heat! My god, the heat! I mean, what do you think about all that?
LUKE: Gonna be rough.
MATT: Uh, you should be trying to save me!
LUKE: Don't boss me! This is why you're going to hell.
MATT: I am not going to hell and if you think I'm going to hell, you should care that I'm going to hell even though I am not.
LUKE: You stole my Jesus fish, didn't you?
MATT: Yeah, that's right!
(MATT places his hands beside his head, index fingers raised as 'horns' and emits a gutteral growling sound.)
You could have a 12 year old stick his/her arm up to the shoulder of a smallish donkey. I have not helped a jenny give birth in 40 odd years so no recent firsthand knowledge. But I still deal with horses, cows, sheep, goats (hippies live nearby), hogs, alpacas (more hippies), dogs, rabbits and cats.
Bud Selig.
The Designated Hitter.
Interleague Play.
How much more do you need?
Pics or it didn't happen.
Taking a snapshot would have been awkward.
"I don't know you but since I will likely never see you again after this, what the hell, do you mind if I take a picture? No, no! Please, leave your arm in the horse's vagina. Multi bene!"
The only exaggeration in my post was "entire arm." She was in up to her elbow or so. She was doing an exam on a pregnant mare.
Reading this made me really appreciate that my job doesn't involve being up to my elbow in a horse's vagina. Most days.
Beats the hell outta being a pig masturbator
Wish I saw this yesterday -- the first part of this simply isn't true. The short version is that we have no idea who wrote the various books of the New Testament, save that we're pretty sure that Paul himself wrote most of the Pauline letters. Most of the books of the NT were not written to assert or protect some sort of centralized, proto-Catholic belief system, but to meet the specific needs of a local community, one that may or may not have been in sync with Jerusalem and Rome. The other objection is that Protestants generally believe that the Church got the Biblical canon slightly wrong, and also that since some ancient time (generally between when the Apostles disbanded and when under Constantine the Church got tied up with the state) the Church has been generally ignoring the Bible, meaning it forfeited any exclusive right to interpretation.
The other other objection is that though the Church ultimately decided what books would be in the canon at a series of councils, it is interesting and important to note that the process of canonization began with the heretical Marcion, and continued through the semi-heretical (but supremely awesome) Origen.
How unethical. They should have posted under the monikers of ntr Matthew, ntr Mark, etc.
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