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Thursday, April 10, 2014

Matt Moore has torn UCL; Tommy John surgery possible

Further testing on Matt Moore’s left elbow Wednesday revealed a tear in the ulnar collateral ligament. The Rays and Moore are deciding on the next step, which is either surgery or rehabilitation.

“Honestly, let’s just wait until (today). I don’t have everything in,” Rays manager Joe Maddon said after Wednesday’s 7-3 loss to the Royals. “It needs to be looked at a little more deeply, because it’s not a slam-dunk surgery right now.”

Moore, placed on the disabled list Tuesday with left elbow soreness, could miss at least a month if he chooses to rehab without surgery. If the 24-year-old opts for the reconstructive surgery known as Tommy John surgery, he will miss at least 12 months.

Moore left Monday’s loss to the Royals in the fifth inning complaining of pain in his left elbow when he threw his change-up. He said the pain was similar to, but not as severe as, the pain in the same location he experienced last summer that forced him to the disabled list for more than a month.

...Moore said Tuesday he was hoping the injury was just bruising from the ligament rubbing against something in his arm while he threw the change-up, because the pain did not occur when he threw his other pitches. He also said he didn’t feel a pop, which some pitchers experience when they completely tear the UCL.

“Maybe something clicked in there,” Moore said. “Maybe I got little aggressive out front with one of the change-ups and something rubbed wrong or clicked, and once you kind of hit something, it kind of just stays around for a second.”

A tear would explain why the velocity on Moore’s fastball has decreased since 2011, when he arrived on the scene in September with a flourish, throwing in the high 90s.

Thanks to CV.

Repoz Posted: April 10, 2014 at 06:59 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: April 10, 2014 at 08:29 AM (#4683640)
::Sigh::
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 10, 2014 at 08:30 AM (#4683642)
terrible news. here is to a quick and thorough recovery
   3. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: April 10, 2014 at 09:35 AM (#4683671)
Sheesh
   4. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: April 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM (#4683698)
Pitching is so tough to project. Hoping Moore comes out of this healthy and effective, because strong young pitching (even when it is not for your team) is one of the most exciting parts of baseball.

As a longtime advocate for James Shields being one of the most valuable pitchers in baseball, this may be an appropriate time to note that he has started 33 or 34 games each of the last six seasons, throwing about 1,350 innings in those six years, and between 203 and 249 innings each of those years, with an ERA+ of 110. This durability and reliability, at an above-average level of performance, makes him extremely valuable - as is underscored by this unfortunate turn of events by an excellent young starting pitcher. When you find a guy that can give you above-average innings, never misses a start, and gives you seven innings a start - you have one of the most difficult to find, valuable assets in baseball. I'm not sure you give up Wil Myers and Jake Odorizzi for him without a long-term extension nailed down, but I also believe the undervaluing of such talent allows teams to think it can be replicated more easily than is actually the case.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM (#4683700)
When you find a guy that can give you above-average innings, never misses a start, and gives you seven innings a start - you have one of the most difficult to find, valuable assets in baseball.

And then he gets hurt, too.
   6. zonk Posted: April 10, 2014 at 10:42 AM (#4683726)
When you find a guy that can give you above-average innings, never misses a start, and gives you seven innings a start - you have one of the most difficult to find, valuable assets in baseball.

And then he gets hurt, too.


Or gets hurt and goes crazy... ala Carlos Zambrano
   7. Jose Canusee Posted: April 10, 2014 at 09:17 PM (#4684186)
tough luck, didn't he already get hit hard by a comebacker this year?
   8. Greg Pope Posted: April 11, 2014 at 05:57 PM (#4684767)
Rotoworld is reporting that Moore is going to try rest and rehab. Has that ever worked for a torn elbow tendon? I can't recall anybody who has just gotten better. Pitchers anyway.
   9. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: April 11, 2014 at 06:22 PM (#4684781)
Rotoworld is reporting that Moore is going to try rest and rehab. Has that ever worked for a torn elbow tendon? I can't recall anybody who has just gotten better. Pitchers anyway.

Yeah, he should just go ahead and get the surgery now. The longer he puts it off, the more time he's going to be out next season.
   10. DKDC Posted: April 11, 2014 at 09:20 PM (#4684862)
He should get a second opinion from the Orioles team doctor.
   11. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: April 11, 2014 at 11:11 PM (#4684885)
Has that ever worked for a torn elbow tendon?


Depends on what is meant by "torn." The excerpt says "a tear in the ulnar collateral ligament." If the UCL was completely torn, I would think that they would have used more definitive phrasing. Like "ruptured" maybe. Coming back from a partial tear is not unheard of, but you'd have to think there's a pretty serious risk of doing further damage.
   12. Dan Posted: April 11, 2014 at 11:54 PM (#4684901)
Only something like 25% of all TJ surgeries are for guys with completely torn UCLs. How likely Moore is to succeed in avoiding the surgery is mostly a question of the degree of the partial tear. But the way the reports sounded after seeing Andrews, it seems mostly like denial on the part of Moore to try and avoid the surgery. I'd be pretty surprised if he's able to avoid have the surgery some time in the next few months either way, which means he's mostly just wasting potential recovery time to be back early near season. But I could be wrong, maybe his tear is more minor than the reports lead us to believe.
   13. Select Storage Device Posted: April 12, 2014 at 12:38 AM (#4684923)
Yeah, he should just go ahead and get the surgery now. The longer he puts it off, the more time he's going to be out next season.


Hey Matt, check out this Internet comment. Are we doing the right thing? Are you sure? I don't know anymore, Matt. I just don't know.

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