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May 5, 2014 OMNICHATTER

The “Mistakes Were Made Yesterday” OMNICHATTER

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   1. G.W.O. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 09:16 AM (#4700209)
The AL East standings are - at the moment - in almost perfect reverse order of run differential.
   2. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 09:44 AM (#4700219)
...and no team in the AL East has a positive run differential.
   3. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 09:47 AM (#4700221)
The divisions, by run differential:
NL East +34
NL Central +18
AL West +13
AL Central -6
NL West -24
AL East -35
   4. salvomania Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:05 AM (#4700280)
According to bb-ref's "Simple Rating System" the Miami Marlins are currently the best team in baseball.
   5. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:16 AM (#4700289)
The best run differential in the division with the best run differential, I can see how you can get there. I wouldn't expect it to last, but a healthy Stanton and Fernandez certain give you a big head start on creating a good team, regardless of your payroll budget.
   6. stanmvp48 Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:18 AM (#4700290)
And the Rockies are first in the NL. Milwaukee is only +11.

Trivia question. The top 10 active career HR leaders are currently playing in the American League. Who is the active leader currenty in the NL?
   7. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:24 AM (#4700296)
Ryan Howard?
   8. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:26 AM (#4700298)
Ah..., he is second. I would not have guessed #1.
   9. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:26 AM (#4700299)
Well, let’s see… from the top of my head although I did scan the list of teams:

Home run hitters to change leagues in recent years:

Pujols
Beltran
McCann
Soriano
Hart
Fielder

So they are out.

Candidates to be the active career HR leader not currently in the AL, in order of most likely:

Wright
Howard
Braun
Morneau
Utley
Votto
Uggla
Werth
Upton
LaRoche
Stanton

Did I hit on it? Wright is my guess.
   10. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:27 AM (#4700301)
No you did not.
   11. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:28 AM (#4700302)
Is he among my list?
   12. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:28 AM (#4700303)
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   13. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:28 AM (#4700304)
Nope.
   14. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:29 AM (#4700305)
Okay, let me think.

For starters I forgot Giambi. Although he is now back in the AL.
   15. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:30 AM (#4700306)
Maybe Granderson. Or Tulowitzky. Or Adrian Gonzalez.
   16. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:31 AM (#4700308)
It's someone who I do not really think of as a HR hitter, has never had 40 in a season...but a pretty long career.
   17. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4700310)
Someone like Ibanez, then, although it can't be him.
   18. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4700311)
None of the above.
   19. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4700312)
It is someone who has spent their entire career in the LN (even though I don't think that was a requirement the way the question is phrased)
   20. JustDan Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:34 AM (#4700313)
Don't tell me it's Abreu..
   21. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:35 AM (#4700314)
That would be hilarious, but sadly it is not someone like that (or some active in name only); it is a "legit" answer, so to speak
   22. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:35 AM (#4700315)
Ah. A Ramirez, then.
   23. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:36 AM (#4700316)
Yep.
   24. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4700318)
Well, that didn't take long at all.

Fun question.
   25. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4700319)
He was nowhere on my radar, but I guess a lot can happen in 8000 PA.
   26. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:42 AM (#4700322)
I hope I am not ruining anyone's future trivia question, but....hmmm, okay, I'll rephrase (and I don't know the answer to this off the top of my head, so will have to look it up myself. Bobby Abreu is currently the active leader in bases on balls. Who was the active leader before he caught on with the Mets? Bonus question (that I am going to double-check, because if I am reading this right, I would not guess this in a 100 tries), who had the most BBs among players currently playing in the NL?
   27. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:42 AM (#4700323)
Yeah, I double-checked that, and wow.
   28. flournoy Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:51 AM (#4700327)
Dan Uggla might be that one.
   29. stanmvp48 Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:55 AM (#4700333)
I think Giambi is the active leader in BBs. Or did you mean NL only. Barry will not be threatened on that one.
   30. JustDan Posted: May 05, 2014 at 11:58 AM (#4700335)
Adam Dunn? all he does is walk.
   31. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:02 PM (#4700341)
Giambi was the current leader, followed by Dunn.
   32. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:03 PM (#4700342)
But the active leader currently playing in the NL was a surprise to me (its not Uggla)
   33. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:06 PM (#4700343)
Before Abreu, this list was even more AL top-heavy than for HRs, the current #2-#13 are all playing in the AL.
   34. stanmvp48 Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:08 PM (#4700344)
Adrian Gonzalez?
   35. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:08 PM (#4700346)
Uggla is #7 on the "active and currently in the NL list, but less than 100 BBs behind the leader.
   36. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:09 PM (#4700347)
Gonzalez is #9, 8 behind Uggla; its pretty amazing how bunched the top of the list is.
   37. stanmvp48 Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:09 PM (#4700348)
Wright?
   38. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:10 PM (#4700349)
Wright is #2.
   39. stanmvp48 Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:10 PM (#4700350)
Utley?
   40. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:11 PM (#4700351)
(that is excluding Abreu, he is not the correct answer. Sorry if that was ambiguous)
   41. Jesse Barfield's Right Arm Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:11 PM (#4700352)
Utley my guess too, but doesn't seem to fit the "not in 100 tries" criterion. Rollins?
   42. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:11 PM (#4700353)
Utley is outside the top 10 (but only 34 behind GOnzalez)
   43. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:12 PM (#4700354)
Its Jimmy Rollins! With 701 BB
   44. Jesse Barfield's Right Arm Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:13 PM (#4700356)
That's awesome. Let the HoM case begin with: "was once active NL leader in walks!"
   45. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:15 PM (#4700359)
Its a weird list: Rollins, Wright, Furcal, Eric Chavez, Holliday, Overbay, Ugla, Howard, Gonzalez, and Votto are the top 10.
   46. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:16 PM (#4700360)
Okay, let's do: Who is the active leader in career triples, whether AL or NL?

Also SB. First guess for SB (5 seconds or less) is Ichiro. But maybe Abreu or Jeter or Beltran might be the answer.
   47. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:17 PM (#4700361)
My guess is that by the end of next year, it will be Wright and Votto fighting it out (assuming neither is traded). There is nobody above them I can see being a good fit for an NL team and that has a tradeable contract.
   48. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:18 PM (#4700363)
Is it Crawford?
   49. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:18 PM (#4700364)
If not, Reyes?
   50. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:18 PM (#4700365)
For SB, I think its definitely Ichiro (is Juan Pierre still playing)
   51. Jesse Barfield's Right Arm Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:19 PM (#4700366)
I wonder where Rollins will rank in terms of PA as a SS. Not an insanely long career yet, but he played virtually every day, hitting leadoff, for a team (usually) with a great offense and (usually again) in a great hitters park.

Averaged 717 PA for 9 years before the injury in 2010, and has gone 621, 699, and 666 in the three years since.
   52. stanmvp48 Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:20 PM (#4700368)
Abreu has more than twice as many walks as anyone else playing in the NL currently.
   53. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4700371)
I think it depends on whether the beginning of this year is a mirage or not. He looked really toasty last year on both sides of the ball, but if he can keep up a 95-100 ops+ for a few more years....I have not seen him yet this year, how is is defense looking? Last year he looked and graded out as pretty terrible, but the metrics like him so far this year.
   54. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:27 PM (#4700376)
Abreu got his 701st BB on July 2nd, 2004.
   55. Nasty Nate Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4700377)
Okay, let's do: Who is the active leader in career triples, whether AL or NL?


Rollins for triples? Jeter for AL triples?
   56. stanmvp48 Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:32 PM (#4700378)
The top 10 HR list includes two former Dodgers. I like to give them s--t about that.

Who can tell me who Konerko was traded for?
   57. Nasty Nate Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4700381)
A New York Mets souvenir pennant was featured in Mad Men last night. I think the show currently is in late spring 1969.
   58. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:34 PM (#4700382)
Hint on the triples: It's not Ichiro, as he's 4th.

I haven't looked at the list; just looked at Ichiro's page.

I would guess for triples maybe Crawford or Jeter or Pierre if he is still playing. Or just repeat my guesses for the steals as likely the two lists have a fair amount of overlap.
   59. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:34 PM (#4700383)
Who can tell me who Konerko was traded for?


Did he go Dodgers to Reds to White Sox? I'm trying to figure out the teams involved. IIRC he was a hot stathead prospect at the time, undervalued by Lasorda.
   60. Nasty Nate Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:36 PM (#4700385)
I checked on Jeter. He is not the triples leader - AL or overall.
   61. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:36 PM (#4700386)
For SB, its Ichiro, for triples, its Crawford (then Reyes); Rollins is leader for NL
   62. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4700389)
Rollins is leader in the NL for SB as well. Pierre is no longer playing/considered active.
   63. stanmvp48 Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4700390)
Traded to the Reds as I remember.
   64. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4700391)
Rollins is starting to look like a HOFer; active leader in the entire National League for BBs, stolen bases AND triples! And he's a shortstop! :)
   65. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:40 PM (#4700396)
I looked up Konerko; traded Dodgers to Reds, and Reds to White Sox. Good luck, anyone who ventures to try for either of those (the first one seems impossible to guess, but maybe others follow trades closer than I do).
   66. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:41 PM (#4700397)
I sort of feel like the Dodgers got a relief pitcher for him.

I think the trade was lopsided. Of course, Konerko was never quite as good as hoped, although he had a fine career and some good years.
   67. Nasty Nate Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:42 PM (#4700398)
for triples, its Crawford (then Reyes); Rollins is leader for NL


Reyes is the active leader for triples which happened for an NL team. He has none with Toronto.
   68. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4700406)
Even I knew the Konerko question right away: Jeff Shaw! Then again, I'm a Dodger fan.
   69. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4700407)
Ah, yes, Shaw.
   70. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:51 PM (#4700411)
BP on Konerko:

Before 1997: One year away from being better than Karros. Two years away from being a lot better than Karros. Three years away from making people forget Karros. Converted catcher with power in the Klesko/Canseco/McGwire class. Going to be a star. If he were still a catcher, grade A prospect. At first base, a grade B prospect whom I like much more than the numbers.

Before 1998: I know he played third base, but I just couldn’t list him there. Defensively, he’s not going to be good. Frank Thomas isn’t either. Who cares? Konerko reminds me of a somewhat smoother Ryan Klesko from the right side. He’s going to be great. Not just good—really great.
   71. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4700421)
How about this for Bobby Abreu:

August 21, 1990: Signed by the Houston Astros as an amateur free agent.
November 18, 1997: Drafted by the Tampa Bay Devil Rays from the Houston Astros as the 6th pick in the 1997 expansion draft.
November 18, 1997: Traded by the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to the Philadelphia Phillies for Kevin Stocker.


I had remembered the Kevin Stocker angle. Never realized Abreu was drafted so early... 1990. He was playing minor league ball by 1991.
   72. Davo Dozier Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:57 PM (#4700424)
The best run differential in the division with the best run differential, I can see how you can get there. I wouldn't expect it to last, but a healthy Stanton and Fernandez certain give you a big head start on creating a good team, regardless of your payroll budget.

Nathan Eovaldi appears to be on the path to stardom as well.
   73. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4700433)
Re 67: Yeah, Rollins is the leader for a player currently in the NL, not the leader for the NL among active players.
   74. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:09 PM (#4700438)
I know its just weird quirk, but the "active and currently in NL" leaders are fascinating. The top 5 for RBIs in that list are Abreu, Ramirez, Holliday, Howard....and Eric Cavez, which would have taken me a long time to guess. Is this imbalance mostly the DH extending careers, or is it something very specific to 2014?
   75. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:12 PM (#4700442)
Who are leaders in sacrifice hits, among players currently in the AL and players currently in the NL?
   76. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4700447)
#75: Jeter.
   77. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:19 PM (#4700449)
Looking at these active leader boards, I have learned so many things, including A) Raul Ibanez is still playing, B) Eric Chavez is still playing, C) what teams they are playing for...
   78. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:27 PM (#4700451)
It is Jeter for the AL.
   79. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:27 PM (#4700452)
Jeter leads all active players in sacrifice hits.
   80. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4700453)
I tune into a lot of Yankees games and Jeter is forever laying down sac bunts. And with his long career, he was the logical choice for me.
   81. Ray (RDP) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:34 PM (#4700458)
Where "forever" is 6 times a year, apparently :-) Once a month. But lots of guys never do it.
   82. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:37 PM (#4700467)
Konerko was the Wil Myers of the late 90s. No one on the internet could imagine why he would be traded for pennies on the dollar.
   83. Nasty Nate Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:41 PM (#4700470)
I always get the terminology mixed up.

So, I am inferring from #80 that "sacrifice hits" means sac bunts that advance a runner to any base, correct?

That would mean sac flies are called something different ("sacrifice flies", presumably). Are those only flyouts (or ROE's) that score a guy from third, or are runners advancing to any base included?

And run-scoring groundouts don't have a name.

Do I have it right, or am I mixed up?
   84. SoCalDemon Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:45 PM (#4700474)
SF and SH are classified as two different things. I think your definitions are correct. Elvis Andrus is only 9 behind Jeter in AL 90-81).
   85. Eddo Posted: May 05, 2014 at 03:03 PM (#4700532)
I looked up Konerko; traded Dodgers to Reds, and Reds to White Sox. Good luck, anyone who ventures to try for either of those (the first one seems impossible to guess, but maybe others follow trades closer than I do).

The Sox sent Mike Cameron to the Reds for Konerko. I believe it was straight-up, but I'm not sure about that.
   86. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: May 05, 2014 at 05:20 PM (#4700630)
I just want to state on behalf of the entire extended Bluth family how put out we all are that we had no venue for endless Cinco de Cuatro jokes yesterday.
   87. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: May 05, 2014 at 05:31 PM (#4700641)
Fredi Gonzalez is batting Harang 8th and Ramiro Pena, starting at 2B, ninth tonight.
   88. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: May 05, 2014 at 06:29 PM (#4700681)
Jose Fernandez named NL pitcher of the month.

How could they overlook Bartolo Colon!!?!?!? No, really! How could anybody???
   89. Snowboy Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:12 PM (#4700695)
Jays@Phillies, J.A.Happ vs Kyle Kendrick
(I'm betting "over")
   90. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:15 PM (#4700698)
Sometimes I wonder if MASN is using unpaid interns to do the camerawork and production for our games.

El Martillo!!
   91. greenback calls it soccer Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:18 PM (#4700699)
Fredi Gonzalez is batting Harang 8th and Ramiro Pena, starting at 2B, ninth tonight.

It's Tony La Russa night in Atlanta.
   92. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:35 PM (#4700715)
They have to stop this soon, it's starting to cone down pretty hard.
   93. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:42 PM (#4700720)
Who can tell me who Konerko was traded for?


For the Dodgers, 1998 was a transition year. Mike Piazza was traded, manager Bill Russell and general manager Fred Claire were fired, and the team was struggling on the field, at 42-43 beginning play on July 4. If you thought it wasn't in Ned Colletti's DNA to be a seller, let me introduce you to interim GM Tommy Lasorda. With the team 12½ games out of the NL West, and eight games behind the wild card leader, Lasorda unloaded Paul Konerko, the number two prospect in baseball per Baseball America, and Dennys Reyes for the nearly 32-year old Shaw.

"You look at how many games we lost in the seventh, eight, ninth inning. You see how much I wanted to get this guy," Lasorda told the Associated Press on the day of the trade. "I feel this Dodger club needs this relief pitcher desperately."

Konerko has hit 382 home runs since the trade.

To make matters worse for the Dodgers, Lasorda didn't know about a rule at the time which allowed anyone traded with a multi-year contract had the right to demand a trade in the next offseason. Shaw used that leverage to renegotiate his three-year, $8.4 million deal into a three-year, $16.5 million contract,


http://www.truebluela.com/2011/7/5/2259552/jeff-shaw-all-star-dodgers-debut

Konerko was then shipped to the South Side for Mike Cameron.
   94. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:56 PM (#4700730)
I find it hard to believe that J A Happ is 31. It seems like just yesterday that he was a freak ROY runner-up.
   95. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:57 PM (#4700731)
the reds in 1998 were presented with a choice. sean casey the lefty batting line-drive hitting constantly upbeat first baseman with no speed and ok strike zone control and a big minor league record or the righty batting flyball hitting somewhat reserved first baseman and ok strike zone control and a big minor league record with no speed.

you could not ask for a more difficult choice for a team. boht guys had pedigrees. at the time there was not a nickel's worth of difference. casey was a year older if that matters.

the reds took casey and for a few years looked great. then he got hurt and it all went to hell for cincy. konerko is still playing and casey has been retired for sevearl years after playing out the string.

go figure
   96. Lassus Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:57 PM (#4700732)
I wonder when the sign-stealing starts.
   97. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:01 PM (#4700738)
anthony rendon is becoming some kind of player
   98. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:02 PM (#4700739)
   99. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:13 PM (#4700743)
pedro alvarez has been swinging better lately.

that should help the pirates
   100. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:19 PM (#4700745)
Zack Greinke is still a little punk.
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