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Tuesday, December 04, 2012

McCaffery: Players who insulted game should strike out in baseball Hall of Fame balloting

The Captain Jack McCaffery HOF ballot…or how Tim Raines lost a vote, but Pete Rose keeps his.

To the ballot, then, and a dilemma. Several players I have voted for in the past (Jeff Bagwell, Don Mattingly, Jack Morris, Tim Raines, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell and Larry Walker) remain in play, yet are not necessarily among the 10 most qualified current candidates. And since 10 is the maximum, I must decide: Am I pot committed? Or is it not my fault that those players could be digested by the process?

My conclusion: Mark the ballot in front of me. That’s it. Vote for the 10 most qualified players on this ballot. Do not punish anyone to continue some warped tradition that no one enters the Hall unanimously the first time. Don’t penalize players for being rude, either in the clubhouse or in front of autograph-seeking kids in parking lots. Don’t consider last year’s ballot, or next year’s. Just this one. So these are the names I will submit for 2013 induction: Rose at the top, followed alphabetically by Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, McGwire, Morris, Mike Piazza, Curt Schilling and Trammell. Why? They were the most deserving, if not statistically, then in my eyes. And that’s why the balloting was willed to baseball writers, not trusted to a printout. It is a feel, a perspective … a collection of individual standards.

So that’s my standard: Reward players who tried to win. Reject those who insulted baseball. Fair or foul, safe or out, ball or strike, in or out. It’s how the game will always work. It is the only way it can.

Repoz Posted: December 04, 2012 at 04:26 PM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JRVJ Posted: December 04, 2012 at 04:39 PM (#4316993)
That's a pretty strange ballot. Good on Bagwell, McGwire Biggio, Bonds, Clements, Piazza, Tramell and even Schilling.

Strange on Morris and Rose.
   2. PASTE does not get put on waivers in August Posted: December 04, 2012 at 04:57 PM (#4317025)
I've honestly never heard of anyone that supports both Alan Trammell and Jack Morris for the Hall of Fame. Well, no one that didn't play with both of them, anyway.
   3. zonk Posted: December 04, 2012 at 05:02 PM (#4317029)
There goes Adam Dunn's chances...
   4. Random Transaction Generator Posted: December 04, 2012 at 05:09 PM (#4317040)
How do you say "reject those who insulted baseball" and keep Rose on your ballot?
   5. SM Posted: December 04, 2012 at 05:14 PM (#4317051)
This is the only ballot I've ever seen that rejects Sosa not for steroids, but for bat corking!
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 04, 2012 at 05:44 PM (#4317096)
In the great BBTF tradition I didn't RTFA, but from the excerpt and comment #5, I gather Sammy Sosa takes the fall for all the players' sins of his era? Seems like scapegoating. Or a fair bit of inconsistency.
   7. SM Posted: December 04, 2012 at 06:13 PM (#4317139)
I read it - the players who insulted the game are Sosa for corking, Manny for quitting on the Sox, Sheff for saying he made errors intentionally.
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 04, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4317152)
. . . Sosa for corking, Manny for quitting on the Sox, Sheff for saying he made errors intentionally.

Yet Rose, who isn't even eligible, get's a pass? Weird.
   9. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: December 04, 2012 at 06:21 PM (#4317153)
I read it - the players who insulted the game are Sosa for corking, Manny for quitting on the Sox, Sheff for saying he made errors intentionally.


And Alomar on last year's ballot for spitting on the umpire.
   10. RMc's Yelling Mob of Hackmen Posted: December 04, 2012 at 07:48 PM (#4317218)
I gather Sammy Sosa takes the fall for all the players' sins of his era?

Must be racial.
   11. Rob_Wood Posted: December 04, 2012 at 07:51 PM (#4317220)
This guy highlights why it is questionable to give the HOF vote to sportswriters. They each create their individual idiosyncratic litmus test and arrive at strange ballots like this one.

While I generally appreciate his approach, the only vote I really dislike is the vote for Morris.
   12. AJMcCringleberry Posted: December 04, 2012 at 07:53 PM (#4317221)
Vote for the 10 most qualified players on this ballot

And yet his first choice is not on this ballot.
   13. Kiko Sakata Posted: December 04, 2012 at 09:29 PM (#4317260)
And yet his first choice is not on this ballot.


Even if you think Pete Rose should be reinstated, he'd still be ineligible for the BBWAA Hall-of-Fame ballot:

Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:

A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning twenty (20) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.


Rose last played baseball 26 years ago. It makes as much sense as writing in Bobby Grich.
   14. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: December 05, 2012 at 08:36 AM (#4317424)
An odd ballot, but it doesn't offend me. Well the silly Rose thing does a bit, but whatever.

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