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Thursday, June 20, 2013

Megdal: Six months: Sandy Alderson gives notice to the Wilpons

20th of June, Citi Field (Sandy)...the Mets have lost their desire for us.

On Saturday afternoon, Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said this: “I do believe that over the next six months or so we will be in position to make some significant acquisitions, whether it’s through free agency or trade. We’re certainly looking forward to that possibility.”

Exactly who was he talking to?

Don’t be fooled. Alderson may have been speaking to a group of season-ticket holders on Saturday, people tired of seeing the Mets continue to gut their major league roster in the name of rebuilding, as if the mere presence of major league quality outfielders on short-term deals would in any way inhibit the construction of a long-term contender.

But Alderson’s real audience was the ownership group of the New York Mets.

...In that time, Alderson has managed to re-sign one key player, David Wright, with a massively backloaded and deferred contract (necessary as a result of that 2014 debt against the team), while overall spending on the team, in real terms, declined once again.

Alderson’s public line in the sand is a fascinating one. If the words coming out of Fred Wilpon’s mouth are more reliable than the cold analysis of Irving Picard was back in March 2012, he’s got roughly six months to prove it to Sandy Alderson. If he does, a major league roster badly in need of an “infusion of players, productive players” (as Alderson put it last August) will start to get the help it desperately requires.

What happens if he doesn’t? It’s likely to get ugly, fast.

Repoz Posted: June 20, 2013 at 01:57 PM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Mark S. is bored Posted: June 20, 2013 at 02:12 PM (#4474137)
"Six months: Sandy Alderson gives notice to the Wilpons" - Better phrasing please. The headline makes it sound like Alderson is giving the Wilpons his six month notice to quit.
   2. Danny Posted: June 20, 2013 at 02:13 PM (#4474138)
That's a lot of projection.
   3. JJ1986 Posted: June 20, 2013 at 02:20 PM (#4474146)
The specific significant acquisitions Alderson is targeting are Jose Veras, Kevin Gregg and Pedro Strop.
   4. Lassus Posted: June 20, 2013 at 02:26 PM (#4474153)
I laughed. Then banged my head on the desk.
   5. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 20, 2013 at 02:30 PM (#4474160)
Yeah, I thought Alderson had given notice. It's amazing how much snark I had prepared from the time I read the headline until reading the excerpt. All of it wasted!
   6. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 20, 2013 at 03:31 PM (#4474216)
Sad to say, but at this point I wouldn't believe Fred and Jeff Wilpon if they told me water was wet...
   7. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: June 20, 2013 at 03:35 PM (#4474217)
I do believe that over the next six months or so we will be in position to make some significant acquisitions, whether it’s through free agency or trade. We’re certainly looking forward to that possibility.

So what do we think, Mets in 4, or does the AL champion steal a win and push the '14 Series to a fifth game?
   8. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: June 20, 2013 at 04:03 PM (#4474239)
Just remember, folks, when it comes to the finances of the Mets, Howard Megdal is less trustworthy than the Wilpons themselves, and a lot more ignorant.
   9. HowardMegdal Posted: June 20, 2013 at 04:42 PM (#4474277)
Well, now I have the tag line for my new business cards.
   10. PreservedFish Posted: June 20, 2013 at 05:17 PM (#4474296)
Seems like a reach, Howard.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: June 20, 2013 at 06:10 PM (#4474318)
Six months is Hanukkah/Christmas (hey, Hanukkah is in the spell-checker) ... maybe Alderson is just saying he's expecting a bottle of good whiskey this time.
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 20, 2013 at 06:26 PM (#4474326)
Not sure Alderson is sending any messages. His paycheck hasn't bounced (yet). This may be nothing more than "light at the end of the tunnel" talk designed to appease the fans for the rest of the season. Plenty of time to come up with more excuses when needed. Which is not to say that there couldn't be a point when everything hits the fan.
   13. HowardMegdal Posted: June 20, 2013 at 07:20 PM (#4474360)
12. That's not my understanding here, but you're right, if he doesn't get a real budget (and a static one, at that), we'll find out how much he wants that extra year's paycheck.
   14. valuearbitrageur Posted: June 20, 2013 at 10:32 PM (#4474520)
Just remember, folks, when it comes to the finances of the Mets, Howard Megdal is less trustworthy than the Wilpons themselves, and a lot more ignorant.


It's impossible to be more ignorant than Jeffrey Wilpon.
   15. bobm Posted: June 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM (#4474757)
if he doesn't get a real budget (and a static one, at that), we'll find out how much he wants that extra year's paycheck.

The 2013 Mets have about $40M in "effective" payroll on their roster, with Santana, Bay and Francisco injured and/or gone before 2014. That's a Miami Marlins type payroll. If the 2014 Mets don't have more than a $40-$50M payroll in the largest market in the country, isn't that a sign that something is rotten in the state of Wilponia (pop: Fred and Jeff)?
   16. Joe Kehoskie Posted: June 21, 2013 at 12:23 AM (#4474772)
Isn't it generally assumed that the Mets need to do another major refinancing of debt between now and next season (if not between now and the offseason)? I remember the Dodgers sale was seen as good news for the Wilpons vis-a-vis their ability to refinance debt, but I don't recall any news in recent months that the Mets have succeeded in doing so.

EDIT: I see Howard touched on this in his column.
   17. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 21, 2013 at 12:41 AM (#4474784)
Interest rates have been going up, and apparently that is likely to continue, making any Wilpon re-financing more costly. Which could mean even tighter Mets budgets if Howard has the situation pegged correctly.
   18. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: June 21, 2013 at 12:56 AM (#4474793)
#17, Howard doesn't have the situation pegged correctly.
   19. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: June 21, 2013 at 01:18 AM (#4474801)
On Saturday afternoon, Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said this: “I do believe that over the next six months or so we will be in position to make some significant acquisitions, whether it’s through free agency or trade.


Trade, huh? That's a hoot.

Who are these valuable players currently not contributing to the major league team that Alderson is going to package in order to "make some significant acquisitions"? Unless he's going to shuffle off some minor leaguers for other minor leaguers. Or, I suppose, he could get a little something for Murphy.

12. That's not my understanding here, but you're right, if he doesn't get a real budget (and a static one, at that), we'll find out how much he wants that extra year's paycheck.


If he wants it as much as he's wanted the last few, then plenty. After all, he's sacrificed both dignity and reputation for a few million. I don't imagine Alderson is about to get religion.

The 2013 Mets have about $40M in "effective" payroll on their roster, with Santana, Bay and Francisco injured and/or gone before 2014. That's a Miami Marlins type payroll. If the 2014 Mets don't have more than a $40-$50M payroll in the largest market in the country, isn't that a sign that something is rotten in the state of Wilponia (pop: Fred and Jeff)?


Isn't that issue already decided, dead, and buried?

======================

So, who's the GM when Alderson leaves? Rizzo's still around, and he'll take a short, cheap deal, presumably.
   20. Long Time Listener, First Time Caller Posted: June 21, 2013 at 02:10 AM (#4474809)
I just signed in to mention that Repoz's blurb to this article is amazin'
   21. God Posted: June 21, 2013 at 07:27 AM (#4474833)
I just signed in to say what #20 said.
   22. depletion Posted: June 21, 2013 at 08:32 AM (#4474859)
Or, I suppose, he could get a little something for Murphy.

Yes. I think that is the idea with Wilmer Flores at 2B. One of the non-top-two pitchers could be moved, if necessary.
Also agree that Alderson's statement is fairly innocuous. "We're going to try to be better next year". Super. I'll believe it when I see it.
   23. Conor Posted: June 21, 2013 at 08:41 AM (#4474863)
I think you could see a guy like Syndergaard move in a trade for an OF bat. Possibly Montero as well.

As far as the major league roster goes, Murph was mentioned as a possibility, and maybe Parnell as well?
   24. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 21, 2013 at 10:03 AM (#4474944)
So, who's the GM when Alderson leaves?


Alfonso Soriano is available.
   25. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: June 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM (#4475033)
I just signed in to say what #20 said.

I just signed in to say that I find it discomforting that God has to sign in.
   26. JJ1986 Posted: June 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM (#4475035)
So, who's the GM when Alderson leaves? Rizzo's still around, and he'll take a short, cheap deal, presumably.


John Ricco is still around. I don't think they'll be able to get Mike Rizzo.
   27. Ravecc Posted: June 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM (#4475050)
JP Ricciardi is Jeffie's boy and got an extension. He's it.

::::shudders::::
   28. PreservedFish Posted: June 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM (#4475060)
Ricco seems like the guy that the Wilpons are grooming.
   29. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: June 22, 2013 at 03:17 AM (#4475627)
So, who's the GM when Alderson leaves? Rizzo's still around, and he'll take a short, cheap deal, presumably.

John Ricco is still around. I don't think they'll be able to get Mike Rizzo.


Perhaps it wasn't a good one, but it was a joke based on Wilpon's inability to remember his Assistant GM's name under Omar Minaya.

I think you could see a guy like Syndergaard move in a trade for an OF bat. Possibly Montero as well.

As far as the major league roster goes, Murph was mentioned as a possibility, and maybe Parnell as well?


Unfortunately this conjures up images of the snake eating its tale. If the Mets trade Snydergaard, they get a little better now, at the cost of depleting their number of pitching prospects. Same with trading Murphy, since there's no one around who has a chance of being a 2 win regular at 2B on a consistent basis. And it Parnell goes, who takes his place.

Granted, the Met should be trading those guys (Murphy, Parnell, even Duda and Buck) for A ball pitching in the hopes of putting together a contender while Wheeler and Harvey are still affordable (the Mets have to assume both will be top of the rotation pitchers, otherwise there's literally no hope to contend).

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