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Monday, March 24, 2014

Mejia hanging around in Amazin’ battle for 5th spot

For most of spring training, the race for the fifth spot in the team’s rotation has been Daisuke Matsuzaka’s to lose, but with six exhibition games remaining, the 24-year-old Mejia is still under consideration for the job.

Mejia did nothing to harm his chances Sunday, when he allowed one run on two hits over five innings in the Mets’ 3-1 exhibition victory over the Nationals.

The Mets have to inform Matsuzaka by Tuesday whether they intend to carry him on the 25-man roster. Otherwise, the veteran right-hander can be released from his contract or offered $100,000 to accept a minor-league assignment.

Matsuzaka, who is scheduled to face the Cardinals on Monday at Tradition Field, is 0-1 this spring with a 4.97 ERA in four appearances.

“At this particular time if (Mejia)’s the fifth guy, how many innings can he go?” manager Terry Collins said. “That’s one of the things that is going to come into the decision. We’re sitting there talking about all of our prospects, him being one of them and to watch the innings load. I don’t know what the number would be, we have to be careful with him this year.”

The Mets have eliminated Mejia from the bullpen mix, preferring to keep him a starter at Triple-A Las Vegas should he not crack the major league rotation.

Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:06 AM | 32 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. depletion Posted: March 24, 2014 at 08:48 AM (#4676020)
Daisuke has hung in there, but I'd like to Henrry make the team. If I'm not mistaken 5 K and 1 BB in 5 IP against a fairly MLB stocked Nationals lineup.
   2. bobm Posted: March 24, 2014 at 09:42 AM (#4676048)
Can Mejia play shortstop?
   3. Lassus Posted: March 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM (#4676073)
I'd cut bait on Dice-K.
   4. The District Attorney Posted: March 24, 2014 at 10:32 AM (#4676076)
Yeah, I came in thinking Dice-K had nothing left; he's gotten plenty of chances to prove that incorrect; and he hasn't. Hell, I'd understand going with Lannan better (although I'd still go with Mejia). I don't know what they see in Dice. If they do release him, I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone else to pick him up.
   5. Brian Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM (#4676096)
TIme to cut Dice-K and move on. The Mets need to get some of the young pitching in the rotation now. They obviously didn't worry about starting Mejia's arb clock when they put him in the big league bullpen oh those many years ago. Time to find out what Mejia, Familia, Romero and Sondergaard (in June) can do.
   6. Brian Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM (#4676100)
And while they're at it stop screwing around on Flores too. Six years in the minors, it's time to stick him at shortstop (He spent the Winter at an agility camp and looks much improved in the field) and see what he can do. Is the diference between Tejada and Flores going to sink the Mets title hopes this year?
   7. Mark S. is bored Posted: March 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM (#4676129)
“At this particular time if (Mejia)’s the fifth guy, how many innings can he go?”


If only they had some starters in AAA who will be ready to take over if Mejia has an innings limit.
   8. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:07 PM (#4676174)
I love Mejia, but his repertoire, injury history and build (not too tall, though he's definitely filled out) makes me think he's naturally suited to being a bullpen beast. That might have more value if it keeps him healthy short term, though it seems all relievers of any quality break sooner rather than later (unless named Rivera or Hoffman.)
   9. formerly dp Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4676176)
I'm not sure why they're screwing with Flores either-- his 2013 was definitely bolstered by Vegas and the PCL, but I'm not sure he has anything left to prove there. Same with Mejia-- sending him down won't gain anything, seeing as he's already had success at the ML level.
   10. PreservedFish Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4676179)
“At this particular time if (Mejia)’s the fifth guy, how many innings can he go?”


Yes, what a bizarre justification. You put Mejia in AAA because you might need to shut him down in August?
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:26 PM (#4676182)
If only they had some starters in AAA who will be ready to take over if Mejia has an innings limit.

Yeah, but a bunch of those guys will be needed to cover for other losses to injury/ineffectiveness.
   12. formerly dp Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:26 PM (#4676183)
Flores sent down. Hopefully they'll have him playing SS at AAA and bring him up if Tejada falters. In the meantime, does this mean more Quintanilla? Haven't gotten to watch much spring training-- anyone see how Flores looked in his limited time at SS? The Mets need to develop some impact hitters, and Flores at least has a shot at becoming one of those.
   13. The District Attorney Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:34 PM (#4676188)
To be fair, if Mejia is going great, the team is in wildcard contention (they're planning on winning 90, remember? ;) and they shut him down in August, we saw with Strasburg how well that goes over. If you're planning on him not starting in a given month, I do think April makes more sense than September.

Honestly, I don't really care if he's in the bullpen, majors or minors, as long as they have a plan and stick to it. What you worry about is that Mejia does well in the bullpen and they decide "we need him there", or Dice-K keeps teasing them with one good start out of every three and they leave Mejia in the minors. Sticking to a plan is tough. But, it can, of course, be done.

(I also agree with Krusty that Mejia ultimately ends up in the bullpen, but I'm not opposed to giving starting one more try. Although check back with me when his arm explodes, I suppose.)

I do wish they had found a good deal for at least one of Ike/Murphy, which would, among other things, have addressed the Flores issue. I'm not opposed to trying Flores at SS since (much like Mejia starting) it could potentially maximize his value, even though (much like Mejia starting) I don't think it will work. If you're really serious about trying to groom Flores into an acceptable defensive SS, then I think it's better for him to do that in the minors, rather than in the majors. Also, they should have made that call in, like, November. Murphy was also repeatedly a victim of the org deciding "hey, maybe we need this guy more at some other position!" in March. I'm still amazed that middle infield conversion worked. So maybe this one can, I dunno.
   14. Lassus Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:35 PM (#4676189)
In the meantime, does this mean more Quintanilla?

For ####'s sake.
   15. PreservedFish Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:46 PM (#4676195)
To be fair, if Mejia is going great, the team is in wildcard contention (they're planning on winning 90, remember? ;) and they shut him down in August, we saw with Strasburg how well that goes over. If you're planning on him not piching in a given month, I do think April makes more sense than September.


So are they thinking about giving him the first month off? I'd be OK with that, I suppose, but that doesn't sound like it's the plan. It seems like they're worrying about what he can give them late in the year ... it's nuts to think that you can plan out the contributions of your pitching rotation to such an exact degree. Just put him in the rotation and see what happens.
   16. billyshears Posted: March 24, 2014 at 02:35 PM (#4676238)
I can understand the logic for having Mejia start in the minors if he's on an innings cap, but if there is a spot in the rotation open now, they should give it to him and see what he can do. Too many pitchers never seems to be a problem, but with a little bit of good luck (why should it start now, though), the Mets may be in a position where the have more prospects than opportunities. Plus, 80 good innings in the first half of the season would make Mejia a lot more valuable than he is now. Then maybe they can package Murphy and Mejia for a shortstop and solve all of the world's problems.

Every time Omar Quinanilla starts, Mr. Met dies a little bit inside.
   17. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 02:47 PM (#4676253)
Meanwhile Dice-K is carving up the Cards (mostly major leaguers), even as we speak: 5 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 5 K, 0 R.

PS -- I prefer Mejia as #5, too, but if Dice-K shows something in the early going -- ie. first 7-10 starts -- and they can trade him for prospects, why not?
   18. formerly dp Posted: March 24, 2014 at 03:57 PM (#4676328)
PS -- I prefer Mejia as #5, too, but if Dice-K shows something in the early going -- ie. first 7-10 starts -- and they can trade him for prospects, why not?
He would really need a strong 1st half to bring back anything of value, right? Byrd seems the obvious comparison here in terms of a reclamation project returning prospects in a deal, but that took a long time to materialize.

I don't have any real gripe with Dice-K, but Mejia succeeded as much as he possibly could have in his brief trial last year, and it seems foolish to send him back down after that sort of performance.

Agree with DA in #13: I was among those who thought the Murphy Experiment would ultimately be a failure, and was pleasantly surprised to see it work out. Because of that, I also thought moving him back to 1B as a short-term patch was a mistake. With Flores, if they want to see him move forward at SS, they should stop moving him all over the infield during spring training-- stick him at SS, tell him they're giving him two months there at AAA to prove he can hack it, and let Tejada know that's his grace period. If Flores really can be a passable SS, that's a huge win for the club going forward. I'm not optimistic, but not as pessimistic as some here, and given that there's no other real options for him as long as Murphy's around, this seems like the best path forward.
   19. Conor Posted: March 24, 2014 at 05:16 PM (#4676406)
Can't see Dike K bringing back anything in prospects, but who knows.
For me, Mejia can get guys out in the big leagues. And considering his injury risk, it seems like a waste for him to throw any innings in the minors.
   20. PreservedFish Posted: March 24, 2014 at 06:06 PM (#4676456)
PS -- I prefer Mejia as #5, too, but if Dice-K shows something in the early going -- ie. first 7-10 starts -- and they can trade him for prospects, why not?


How likely is this? I mean, any part of it?
   21. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: March 24, 2014 at 06:36 PM (#4676486)
Dice-K has an ERA+ of 80 over the last 5 seasons. He hasn't thrown 170 innings in a season in that time.

The idea that he's going to be healthy or good enough to be worth anything significant in a trade is really unlikely.

Unless the Mets really want to give Mejia a lightened workload in the minors to start the season, I think it's silly for them not to keep Mejia on the team. That said, it likely won't be long before the Mets need him to start.

BTW, congrats to Dillon Gee on getting named the Opening Day starter. It's obviously in part due to injury but it is still an accomplishment for a guy drafted in the 21st round.
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 06:45 PM (#4676490)
PS -- I prefer Mejia as #5, too, but if Dice-K shows something in the early going -- ie. first 7-10 starts -- and they can trade him for prospects, why not?

That won't happen.

This issue come down to the fact that if they let Dice-K go now, they're very likely to have to give someone worse than him 15 GS at some point in 2014. Either when injuries hit or Mejia hits his IP cap.

If you give Dice-K the 5th spot, you get to have Dice-K and Mejia in 2014. If you give it Mejia, you just have Mejia.
   23. formerly dp Posted: March 24, 2014 at 06:54 PM (#4676497)
Can't see Dike K bringing back anything in prospects, but who knows.
I would have said the same thing about Byrd last year. If you go back and read the threads from spring training, you'll probably find a lot of people annoyed that he had a roster spot. Not saying that Dice K will follow a similar trajectory of course, just that stranger things have happened.
   24. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: March 24, 2014 at 07:22 PM (#4676513)
This issue come down to the fact that if they let Dice-K go now, they're very likely to have to give someone worse than him 15 GS at some point in 2014. Either when injuries hit or Mejia hits his IP cap.

How likely is it that the Mets can't find someone better than Dice-K? Again, he's been pretty awful for 5 years now. The Mets do have Rafael Montero, who should be ready to step up, and Syndergaard, who could be ready at some point and they can always pick up guys like Dice-K as they have been released.

Maybe the Mets see something in Dice-K where he might not be bad but there's not a lot of reason to keep him around.
   25. formerly dp Posted: March 24, 2014 at 07:34 PM (#4676528)
Yeah, Dice-k isn't anything awesome unless you think his last few starts of last season represent him turning some sort of corner. Harang and Freddie Garcia just got released, I think. There are always guys like Dice-K floating around. Plus the Mets should have Harvey coming back around August...
   26. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 24, 2014 at 07:45 PM (#4676533)
Garcia is yours for the taking. Harang just signed with the Braves to replace him on the "holy ####, we're down to this" roster. Harang will be fighting it out with Gus Schlosser for fourth starter rites after Teheran, Alex Wood and David Hale. (Mike Minor and Ervin Santana supposedly by mid-April, and Gavin Floyd by May.)
   27. formerly dp Posted: March 24, 2014 at 08:12 PM (#4676545)
Garcia is yours for the taking.
Between him and Colon, the NYC food supply might dry up...
   28. The District Attorney Posted: March 24, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4676547)
Those were the two fifth starter candidates for the Yankees a few years back, right? Colon and Garcia?

This team can be depressing.
   29. depletion Posted: March 24, 2014 at 09:19 PM (#4676568)
27 is awesome.
   30. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: March 25, 2014 at 12:03 AM (#4676610)
He spent the Winter at an agility camp


Sounds like someplace Yuppie parents would sent little Cooper and Arabella.
   31. Mark S. is bored Posted: March 25, 2014 at 01:06 PM (#4676792)
Mets delay decision with money:

The Mets have agreed to pay $100,000 to Daisuke Matsuzaka to preserve the right to have him open the season not on the major-league roster.

Officially, the payment defers for another turn a decision on whether Matsuzaka or Jenrry Mejia will emerge as the final rotation member. Mejia is due to pitch against the Toronto Blue Jays on Friday in Montreal, with Matsuzaka pitching at Olympic Stadium the following day.
   32. Lassus Posted: March 25, 2014 at 01:12 PM (#4676799)

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