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1. Dale Sams Posted: November 10, 2009 at 06:49 AM (#3383819)Is Matsui or Ichiro bigger in Japan?
EDIT: And, I believe, the entire National League
Depends. Ichiro was bigger before the year started because Matsui was coming off a couple of injury years, and Ichiro was one of the stars of the WBC which is a lot bigger in Japan than in the U.S. But Matsui was the one who played in the playoffs, and was the WS MVP.
huh, I thought the assumption was based on the fact that Seattle actually needs offense and he'd be an upgrade at DH. Add the fact that I believe Seattle has a substantial Japanese (is it racist to assert or say this?) following and he's a Japanese (sorry I have to use this word again)baseball icon and it might make a little sense (in a racist way?)that the Mariners, a team that has had a few Japanese (!!!!) players in recent days, would go after him. Of course, Hideki probably prefers to play where the most money is offered, but Seattle has money and the need and maybe even the extra-baseball performance desire.
Now Matsui is no longer a Giant, so he doesn't even get the Giant bump anymore. His MLB career, while good, has largely been unremarkable. Ichiro, on the other hand, led his team to 116 wins, was ROY and MVP, has made the All-Star team every year of his MLB career, has won a Gold Glove every year of his MLB career, was the All-Star Game MVP, broke the MLB single season hits record, broke the record for career hits by a Japanese player, has 2000 hits in MLB alone, has gotten 200 hits a record nine straight seasons, led two WBC winning teams (Matsui hasn't even played), in the last WBC hit the go-ahead single that carried Japan past hated rival Korea, and was carried off the field by the Mariners this year, despite not going to the play-offs. He's been offered the People's Honor Award (conferred by the Prime Minister) twice, and refused both times. His news presence compared to other Japanese major leaguers is dominating.
Matsui will get a well-deserved bump with the Yankees winning the World Series and being World Series MVP. But he probably won't even be re-signed by the Yankees. Ichiro has the "big in Japan" match wrapped up for the rest of their careers.
Basically, it's gone like this:
Pre-2006: Matsui generally more popular, with Ichiro considered something of an aloof guy with great skills and all but not with widespread appeal.
2006: Matsui says "no" to the WBC despite being asked by none other than Sadaharu Oh himself. Ichiro, meanwhile, is the clubhouse leader of the WBC championship team. Ichiro's popularity soars, Matsui's popularity plummets.
2006-2009: Matsui declines and has injury problems, Ichiro remains steady. In 2009, Ichiro once again is a WBC hero while Matsui is out with a injury.
2009 WS: Matusi wins MVP. Once again is a hero to Japan. But more than Ichiro? Doubt it.
Great call. What with O'Neill's legendary Zen-like stoicism and all.
And to add to this if Matsui could play 15 games in left and 10 in right(with Swish at first)it would keep him in the lineup more.
Also does he really WANT to share a locker room with Ichiro?I doubt it.
But will he stay forever young?
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