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Wednesday, February 26, 2014

Mets’ ‘Dominican Mafia’ has a new leader…Jose Valverde

Leave the JUGS gun. Take the deditos de novia.

In less than two weeks with the Mets in spring training, Jose Valverde has emerged as the leader of, what the reliever calls, the team’s “Dominican Mafia.”

The members include young pitchers Jenrry Mejia, Jeurys Familia, Rafael Montero and Gonzalez Germen, and meetings are held in a corner of the clubhouse near Valverde’s locker. Another veteran Dominican pitcher, Bartolo Colon, also presides.

“It feels like we are brothers here,” Mejia said Tuesday.

Valverde views his leadership of the “Dominican Mafia” as part of the job description, as he attempts to land a spot in the Mets bullpen, after signing a minor league deal with the club this month.

...“I’ve never played with a team like this — the manager talks to us like a father,” Valverde said. “All the players know it, and to play with Bartolo and Mejia and [for] a guy like [Collins], it’s great.”

Collins received a positive review on Valverde from his friend Jim Leyland, who managed the pitcher with the Tigers for four seasons. Last year, Valverde made 20 relief appearances for the Tigers, going 0-1 with a 5.59 ERA before he was designated for assignment in June. The right-hander spent the remainder of the season at Triple-A Toledo.

“You can’t get bigger accolades than what [Leyland] said,” Collins said. “He said, ‘You’re going to love this guy, he comes with a smile every day. He works and he’ll take the baseball any time, any place.’ I think those are the things we’re looking for in that clubhouse.

“And those young, especially those young, Latin pitchers, he calls them the ‘Dominican Mafia.’ It’s a great title. That’s what they are, and they follow a good leader.”

...The formation of the “Dominican Mafia” tells Collins Valverde brings the same kind of presence to the clubhouse.

“It just tells you the quality of person he is,” Collins said. “You can be the biggest star, but if you don’t have the heart that is needed to be around younger guys, you’ve got your own agendas and everything else, they don’t gravitate to you. This guy wants to help.”

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   1. thetailor Posted: February 26, 2014 at 10:36 AM (#4662750)
Sounds like a guy who knows he might not be that good anymore, but really, really wants to keep his job as a good veteran clubhouse presence.
   2. Mark S. is bored Posted: February 26, 2014 at 10:47 AM (#4662758)
Sounds like a guy who knows he might not be that good anymore, but really, really wants to keep his job as a good veteran clubhouse presence.
I smell a new bullpen coach.
   3. JJ1986 Posted: February 26, 2014 at 10:49 AM (#4662760)
If he goes to Las Vegas, he'll get to stay with Germen and Montero and maybe Familia.
   4. attaboy Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:03 AM (#4662772)
If they can get people out in the 7th and 8th inning, I don't care if the 'Don' himself is presiding over the meetings. Maybe he can make a deal the hitters can't refuse.
   5. Swoboda is freedom Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:08 AM (#4662780)
If they can get people out in the 7th and 8th inning, I don't care if the 'Don' himself is presiding over the meetings. Maybe he can make a deal the hitters can't refuse.

Does this mean Jason Heyward wakes up with a horse's head in his bed?
   6. PreservedFish Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:21 AM (#4662793)
I went to a summer camp that was mostly WASPY kids from the Boston suburbs and Westchester, but for some reason there was a large contingent of Dominican kids too. We used the same phrase, "Dominican mafia."

Once in the middle of the night four of the Dominican kids snuck out and canoed 3-4 miles to the nearby girl's camp. Not because they were meeting girls. They planted a Dominican flag in the sand and then just turned around.
   7. Swedish Chef Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:25 AM (#4662796)
There was a moment there when I had him confused for Valdespin, probably the guy you'd least like in that role.
   8. The District Attorney Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM (#4662803)
There was a moment there when I had him confused for Valdespin, probably the guy you'd least like in that role.
Unless you literally did want a Mafia, of course.

Glad Minaya isn't the GM anymore; the Archie Bunker types would make this into a thing.

Anyway, whatever, we'll see if Valverde is even still on the team in July. How would you guys feel about Juan Lagares to Seattle for Nick Franklin?
   9. attaboy Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM (#4662809)
Would love to have franklin but not sure about trading Lagares. Franklin was fantastic for the first few weeks/months of last year and then he hit a wall and another wall and another wall, just dreadful for a long time. Obviously lots of talent and nowhere to play but Lagares ought to be committed to and played every day. If they won't make that commitment, though, sure trade him.
   10. JJ1986 Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:35 AM (#4662811)
If Franklin could play SS, he'd be a favorite target of mine, but all reports I've read say he's not long for the position.

Looking at blocked shortstops around the league, Zach Walters seems like by far the best target, but the Nats probably wouldn't send him to a division rival.
   11. attaboy Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:36 AM (#4662813)
I would be happier if the Mets could trade Ike or Duda for an OFer that they could turn around into Franklin...Sea obviously doesn't need another 1B/DH
   12. PreservedFish Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:41 AM (#4662817)
I would say that Lagares for Franklin would be a no-brainer. Franklin's a very strong prospect.
   13. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:48 AM (#4662821)
That guy who used to show up in Mets threads all the time rambling about"street Spanish" is going to love this.
   14. Lassus Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:55 AM (#4662826)
I would say that Lagares for Franklin would be a no-brainer. Franklin's a very strong prospect.

I know nothing about Franklin, but if this is such a no-brainer, does that mean it's also pretty impossible in Seattle's eyes?
   15. Arbitol Dijaler Posted: February 26, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4662853)
Glad Minaya isn't the GM anymore; the Archie Bunker types would make this into a thing.


That guy who used to show up in Mets threads all the time rambling about"street Spanish" is going to love this.


That would be levski/iksvel.
   16. PreservedFish Posted: February 26, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4662864)
I know nothing about Franklin, but if this is such a no-brainer, does that mean it's also pretty impossible in Seattle's eyes?

Probably, yes. But nobody knows what their plans for Franklin are given that Cano is blocking him at his best position.

Going into last year the consensus on Franklin was that he was about the 50th best prospect in baseball. He played great in AAA last year and held his own in the majors at age 22. The articles I just checked have the Mets considering Franklin a shortstop, although most of the prospect hounds don't think he can handle the position well enough.

I like Lagares a lot, but Franklin is just a higher caliber of talent. ZiPS projects Franklin to beat Lagares' OPS+ by 20 points, and that at two years younger. There's a real gulf between them in apparent hitting ability.
   17. Lassus Posted: February 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4662885)
Thanks, PF. I gauge the likelihood of this occurring, considering the Mets would move Franklin off his actual position, to be approximately 140%.
   18. formerly dp Posted: February 26, 2014 at 01:12 PM (#4662905)
Thanks, PF. I gauge the likelihood of this occurring, considering the Mets would move Franklin off his actual position, to be approximately 140%.
Seriously. I like Franklin a lot, but the Mets don't need another player to add to the logjam at 2B. If they're confident of Franklin's ability to handle SS, they should make a hard push for him, but if other teams feel similarly, the asking price will be pretty high.

Don't know if this was already posted, but apparently the Mets are (wait for it)...unhappy with the shape Tejada was in when he showed up to camp:
Ruben Tejada still isn’t working out for the Mets.

Even though Tejada attended an offseason strength/conditioning and nutrition camp in Michigan, Mets management has not been overwhelmed by the shortstop’s “new’’ body.

“He looks pretty much the same,’’ one source told The Post on Monday.

Not in the best shape of his life, apparently.

Davis reportedly rebuilt his swing during the offseason-- took some of the movement out of it. So of course we should all expect a monster season.
   19. Lassus Posted: February 26, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4662909)
Not in the best shape of his life, apparently.

I saw this - taking up the whole back page of the POST - and the same day a beat article in Yahoo about how much work he did in the offseason and how much better and ready he was.
   20. formerly dp Posted: February 26, 2014 at 01:22 PM (#4662915)
I saw this - taking up the whole back page of the POST - and the same day a beat article in Yahoo about how much work he did in the offseason and how much better and ready he was.
I would love for Tejada to have the .350/.350 season we both think he's capable of, but after all of these reports about his work ethic, I'm starting to suspect there may be something to the concerns. I'm a bigger Flores booster than most on this site, and I'm hoping they run him out there at SS in spring training until they're 100% convinced he'll never be able to handle the position. Which, if the reports are accurate, may only take an inning or two.

The first half of 2014 is going to be really crucial to determining the future of the club, at least for the position players-- lots of questions that should be answered by midseason (can den Dekker be useful? where do you play Flores? is Ike ever going to produce consistently? what can Lagares do? can d'Arnaud be an offensive force, or just adequate for a C? do they keep Murphy?).
   21. PreservedFish Posted: February 26, 2014 at 01:25 PM (#4662916)
Seriously. I like Franklin a lot, but the Mets don't need another player to add to the logjam at 2B.


It seems like a dumb move, but in my opinion it would be justified. You trade for Franklin, you get a talented player for 5+ years. When Franklin is in his prime and (hopefully) hitting .280/.360/.450 for you, the logjam has long since been cleared. These things tend to work themselves out.

Now, the Lagares rumor seems to have been started by our own District Attorney in comment #8. The Mariners might be looking at our pitchers more than at Lagares. The M's just lost Franklin Gutierrez for the season, but they're not desperate for a CF with Ackley and Saunders still on the roster. And all the gossip has Jack Z totally abandoning their emphasis on athleticism and advanced defensive metrics in favor of guys with big triple crown stats, the exact opposite of Lagares.

Off the cuff I'd say that I would not trade Syndergaard or Wheeler for Franklin, but I would trade Montero or Mejia or Familia.
   22. The District Attorney Posted: February 26, 2014 at 01:46 PM (#4662942)
Now, the Lagares rumor seems to have been started by our own District Attorney in comment #8.
Well, yeah :-) But I thought it'd be an interesting thing to discuss, given:

a) There apparently have been M's/Mets talks about Franklin;

b) The Mets seem to be a little skeptical of Lagares, and willing to go into the season with an OF of Grandy and the two Youngs;

c) The M's could use an OF, at least to some extent (although see #21);

d) The M's have been huge believers in defensive stats in the past (although see #21);

e) I figured there'd be people on both sides, whereas I didn't think any Met fan would be willing to trade Montero for Franklin. I was right on the first part, but apparently wrong on the second! :-P It's certainly not crazy, though. It has the advantage of being a pitcher for a hitter, of course, and I agree that Franklin doesn't suddenly become useless to the Mets if it turns out he's a 2B. But, y'know, fans tend to overvalue their team's prospects, so I figured we'd all want to keep Montero. By the same token, I'm guessing M's fans figure they should get more for Franklin than any of these guys...

(EDIT: Lookout Landing post, which I will look over. Certainly at least seems at first skim like they'd want more than Lagares.)
   23. PreservedFish Posted: February 26, 2014 at 01:54 PM (#4662958)
I think the average M's fan would be happy to get Wheeler or Syndergaard, and disappointed with Montero.
   24. attaboy Posted: February 26, 2014 at 04:00 PM (#4663080)
If Mejia and Duda together can net a decent OF in trade and then move that piece for Franklin, I would be happy to move those two for him. 1st round talent, held his own his first year.
   25. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: February 26, 2014 at 04:02 PM (#4663082)
As a Mariners fan, I would pitch a fit if Lagares-Franklin happened. That said . . .

I know nothing about Franklin, but if this is such a no-brainer, does that mean it's also pretty impossible in Seattle's eyes?


. . . absolutely not. The Seattle front office is deeply, deeply stupid. They would trade an 18-year-old A-Rod to get a goodish outfielder, so long as they had decided that the goodish outfielder was really good for whatever flyaway reason they could imagine.
   26. billyshears Posted: February 26, 2014 at 06:14 PM (#4663188)
You know, I really think there is more in Lagares's bat than he showed last year. His minor league track record (since 2010) is pretty good - hits for contact, doesn't strike out too much. He's still young enough to add power. He had a difficult rookie year at the plate (and a lot of that was an awful September), but he's never been considered to be a glove only prospect. I think he can get to a .750 OPS in the near future. Even if his defense in CF is merely above average as opposed to the best in baseball, that would make him a very valuable player. I'm not too keen to trade a player like that.

On the other hand, I would trade Montero for Franklin, though I don't think it's a slam dunk. I think the perception of prospects tends to get frozen in time at the moment they hit the majors. While Franklin has a very solid minor league track record, he was also pretty bad last year, and that has to be accounted for. Still, Montero's ceiling is probably as a #3 starter, and he is not without his share of risk factors. The Mets are going to have to start converting pitching assets to hitting assets soon anyway. I'd make the deal, stick Franklin as SS for a couple year, and, assuming he actually can hit, move him to 2b when Murphy becomes a free agent.
   27. Lassus Posted: February 26, 2014 at 07:31 PM (#4663214)
I think he can get to a .750 OPS in the near future. Even if his defense in CF is merely above average as opposed to the best in baseball, that would make him a very valuable player. I'm not too keen to trade a player like that.

I'm with mr. shears here. A passable bat with that kind of defense in CF is definitely valuable.

Also, I'm still lost as to the lingering doubts of Lagares' defense. The "Is it real?", "Will it last?" questions befuddle me. Where do they come from? Even with my matching optimism I'm willing to accept any and all doubts about his bat, sure, but I'm lost as to why I should doubt his glove.
   28. The District Attorney Posted: February 26, 2014 at 08:38 PM (#4663244)
I hope that you're legitimately confused and not using "confused" to mean that you disagree while avoiding any accountability for disagreeing; I hate that.

In 2011, Lagares was a corner outfielder in the low minors.

In 2013, Lagares had the second-most Fielding Bible runs saved of any center fielder in Major League Baseball. Despite only starting 88 games in CF, Lagares had about 65% more runs saved than the third-place guy.

The man with the most runs saved was our old pal Carlos Gomez, with 38. That set a new record for runs saved (dating back to 2002, which is how long Fielding Bible has been doing this). In spite of which, Lagares had a better per-inning rate than Gomez. (If Lagares had kept up his rate for Gomez' number of CF innings, he would have saved 42 runs.)

That is all very weird!

This is relevant to our interests: How Much to Make of Juan Lagares' Defense
   29. PreservedFish Posted: February 26, 2014 at 08:54 PM (#4663253)
Also, I'm still lost as to the lingering doubts of Lagares' defense. The "Is it real?", "Will it last?" questions befuddle me. Where do they come from? Even with my matching optimism I'm willing to accept any and all doubts about his bat, sure, but I'm lost as to why I should doubt his glove.

To clarify my position ... I have no doubt that Lagares is a plus fielder. But I'm not ready to pencil him in as a consistent +1.5-2 win fielder, because those guys are incredibly rare, and they do usually arrive with some fanfare. Lagares doesn't have the overt athleticism of, say, Devon White. The baseball world didn't even identify him as a natural CF until this year. And lots of his value came from his crazy number of baserunner kills ... teams will get smarter about that, and while intimidating runners still has value, it doesn't have as much value as eliminating them.

When I ask "will it last?", what I mean is, will it continue to be enough to carry his bat? But maybe he starts hitting better too.

I do like Lagares a lot, really.
   30. formerly dp Posted: February 26, 2014 at 09:21 PM (#4663267)
I was going to respond to #27, but DA and PF both said it better than I was going to. I really don't know what to expect from him this year; there's cause for both optimism and pessimism. *If* the Mariners were going to take a package built around Lagares for Franklin, I would do that, only because they have den Dekker, who is also a plus glove in CF and has a decent track record hitting in the minors, coming up behind him. Both players have question marks around them, and though they profile a bit differently, I see them as sort of interchangeable.

To reiterate what I mentioned above, according to Rotoworld, the Mets do plan on giving Flores a "legitimate look" at SS this spring. IOW, they are exploring any opportunity to not start Tejada...
   31. Greg K Posted: February 26, 2014 at 10:42 PM (#4663290)
Earlier in the off-season I thought of Tejada for the Jays 2B slot (or sliding Reyes over to 2B and finding a SS).

It seems like it would be buying low (though obviously not so low as what the Jays are currently proposing to send out at 2B). Any thoughts on what Tejada could be had for?
   32. Lassus Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:05 PM (#4663298)
PF's 29 makes perfect sense, although I think that in regards to Lagares' fielding, there ISN'T cause for pessimism, so I do disagree there with dp.

I'm not sure what DA "That is all very weird!" is snarking on. His post of how awesome Lagares has been in the field would confirm to me that there should be confusion about doubts regarding Lagares' fielding, but I'm probably reading it wrong. I'm also not sure what sort of accountability I need to be responsible for. I need to prove my disagreement, I guess?

I read the Fangraphs article and my initial impression is that it strikes me as a conclusion in search of data to support it, but I'll have to re-read it to try and, er, regress my biases. I admit up front that I still heavily distrust advanced fielding statistics (which I doubt counts as accountability).


Any thoughts on what Tejada could be had for?

If they can't get more than a bag of balls for him, it's their fault, they've been talking him down for two years.
   33. billyshears Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:22 PM (#4663300)
*If* the Mariners were going to take a package built around Lagares for Franklin, I would do that, only because they have den Dekker, who is also a plus glove in CF and has a decent track record hitting in the minors, coming up behind him. Both players have question marks around them, and though they profile a bit differently, I see them as sort of interchangeabl


Den Dekker is almost 2 years older than Lagares. I think he has significantly less upside because of that.
   34. The District Attorney Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM (#4663302)
My point is, don't say "I'm confused about..." when you mean "I disagree that..." "I'm confused about..." a) doesn't commit you to the position of being a person who is putting forth an opinion (this is what I meant by "accountability"); b) may cause people to start trying to explain first principles to you when that's not really what you're looking for; and IMO worst of all, c) carries the implication that the thought process of the people who disagree with you is so wrong that you can't even imagine how they came up with such an insane notion.

Just my personal preference with regard to tone; do with it as you will. (If you even did actually disagree rather than being legitimately confused, which I have no idea about.)

Anyway, in the interest of communicating with more straightforwardness myself, my points were that anyone performing 4.4 standard deviations above average, as Lagares did in "arm rating", is very likely fluky; small sample sizes are often fluky; and a guy who wasn't even really supposed to be a great defensive CF fielding at an all-time-record-breaking pace seems fluky. Therefore, doubt. I certainly don't think anyone is arguing the guy is a bad fielder, and I assume no one is arguing that he'll make prime Andruw Jones look like a sloth. So as #29 says, the question ultimately is whether Lagares will hit well enough to play given a good glove, in which case he'd be fine, or only hit well enough to play if he contributes 2013-level defensive value, in which case he'd be in trouble.

(The fact that his hitting is also hard to pin down exacerbates the problem. He just played with a seemingly totally different skillset than he had shown prior to 2013, even if the overall value is not all that different. It is weird.)

The Mets are in no position to trade Tejada right now, since there's no one else to play SS. If they decide Flores can do it (which I can't seriously imagine, but they are apparently trying), or if they sign Drew (which I think is even more unlikely), then they'd probably be thrilled to get rid of Tejada, whom they obviously have little hope for. So, wait a few weeks. I did hear that Boras said that Drew would be willing to switch to 2B for the Jays, if they made a sizable enough commitment. That was pretty funny.
   35. Lassus Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:53 PM (#4663318)
My point is, don't say "I'm confused about..." when you mean "I disagree that..." "I'm confused about..." a) doesn't commit you to the position of being a person who is putting forth an opinion (this is what I meant by "accountability"); b) may cause people to start trying to explain first principles to you when that's not really what you're looking for; and IMO worst of all, c) carries the implication that the thought process of the people who disagree with you is so wrong that you can't even imagine how they came up with such an insane notion.

Understood. Perhaps it's more passive/aggressive than I should have been, but I really DID/DO have a hard time understanding why his defense is in doubt. I understand regression to the mean, but I guess for a developing player IMO that is less likely than the player attaining/staking out his actual level of ability.
   36. PreservedFish Posted: February 26, 2014 at 11:58 PM (#4663320)
I admit up front that I still heavily distrust advanced fielding statistics (which I doubt counts as accountability).


I just wanted to note that, without advanced fielding statistics, we would have a lesser opinion of Lagares. Advanced fielding statistics are definitely his friend. He looked great out there, but his numbers are even better than any observer would have guessed.

Den Dekker is almost 2 years older than Lagares. I think he has significantly less upside because of that.


Den Dekker doesn't look like a prospect to me. 5th outfielder type. Not the type of player that you plan around - his existence doesn't move the needle for me in any way regarding a potential Lagares trade.
   37. Lassus Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:06 AM (#4663322)
Well-said on Dekker. And I'll try and escape some of my bias about defensive metrics.

BTW, for anyone who hasn't heard, Niese is already on his way to an MRI.

And, Wright is annoyed at the anonymous Tejada comments. Is that directed at the FO?

Oh Mets.

   38. formerly dp Posted: February 27, 2014 at 05:07 AM (#4663348)
I really DID/DO have a hard time understanding why his defense is in doubt.
My doubts are that it will be good enough to carry his bat. If this was the case of the team punting one lineup slot to defense, I don't think it would be that big a deal. But if Lagares posts a .280 OB% over 700 plate appearances this year, he's got to keep playing outstanding defense. And while I'm not ruling out him developing more as a hitter, I'm always a little suspicious of guys who have so much of their offensive value tied to their batting average. Lagares has never walked much (133 in almost 2600 minor league PA), has some gap power and that's about it (31 HRs for his minor league career), and shouldn't be trying to steal bases (100 steals in 149 attempts).

I get the skepticism around dD, but BPro was positive on him this year. It's not an apples-to-apples comparison because of the age thing, but minor league lines:
Lagares: .282/.322/.405
den Dekker: .279/.338/.456

And unlike Lagares, dD has always had a reputation as a strong defender. If you're weighing defense so heavily in your evaluation of Lagares, I'm not sure why dD wouldn't also benefit from that sort of consideration. Also sort of tangentially related: Did anyone read why they moved Puello off of CF? He could be in this mix too.

Would the Cubs be a good trading partner for the Mets? Seems like they have an abundance of hitting prospects, but not a lot in the way of pitching.

In terms of a Jays/Mets trade, even if the Mets could afford to give up the only real SS in their organization, who would the Jays send their way? Their system seems pretty bare right now.
   39. attaboy Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:15 AM (#4663390)
I saw an article (linked at this site, I believe) explaining exactly how Lagares was able to perform at such a high level, fantastic article which I will search for again. Either way, a salient point is that if he value is from throwing people out, his value will go down as teams learn to not run on him. His hitting has to pick up or his value decreases. Trading him now, while his perceived value is at its peak makes sense, however, if they don't get something better then they are not trading him for anything the mets can use. They need a MI who projects. Franklin could be that person and I am more than comfortable with them trying him at SS but if that doesn't work out, moving him to 2B where we can get Offense and defense at that spot. It also frees up Murphy to move to 1B if Ike and Duda aren't making it happen again.
   40. attaboy Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:18 AM (#4663396)
The link:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/juan-lagares-assassin-of-runners/
   41. The District Attorney Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:01 AM (#4663449)
Wright actually said something meaningful? Something captainly, at that? Amazing.

(No one else except the Yankees -- whom I'm guessing will not name another one next year -- even has a captain, right?)

I've come around to Montero for Franklin being a good idea. Make it so!
   42. formerly dp Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:19 AM (#4663473)
Thinking about Franklin for 2B: the Mets have that on-hand already with Flores. They project fairly similarly, at least at the plate. Franklin's only someone the Mets should target if they're convinced he can play SS, and/or convinced Flores can't play 2B.
   43. Conor Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM (#4663490)
I agree with the sentiment that there might be some more juice in Lagares's bat. His minor league numbers aren't great, but they aren't awful. He's probably gonna need to hit a little more, because fangraphs had him at +33 per 150 games last year in CF last year; seems a little optimistic to project him to be anywhere close to that. His K% was nearly 23% in the majors last year; the last couple of years he's been no higher than about 17%. If he could cut that K% to something closer to 18-19%, he might be putting enough balls in play to hit closer to 255-260 than the 240 he hit last year.
255/300/370 with +10 or +15 defense would play pretty well in CF, I think. (on Fangraphs, his fans projection is 259/298/370, for whatever that is worth).

I think I'd probably trade Montero for Franklin; not sure if Seattle goes for it. But at some point, as was pointed out above, the Mets need to start turning some pitching into hitting. I'd rather sign Drew though. I think.
   44. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4663551)
Sea obviously doesn't need another 1B/DH


That didn't stop them from adding the last three. Why would it matter now?
   45. attaboy Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM (#4663586)
Why would it matter now?

a few years back, the mets stopped at 3 backup catchers, might be a magic number!
   46. JJ1986 Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:43 PM (#4663609)
The Mariners right now only have Morrison, Hart and Montero who need to DH. They can play Morrison in LF, Hart in RF and still have room for Duda.
   47. Lassus Posted: February 27, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4663701)
The Mariners right now only have Morrison, Hart and Montero who need to DH. They can play Morrison in LF, Hart in RF and still have room for Duda.

I'd trade Duda in a heartbeat. Even before Ike at this point. That might be emotional, but I cannot stand to watch him field, it's so painful.
   48. The District Attorney Posted: February 27, 2014 at 02:15 PM (#4663704)
Morrison is really a 1B, and anyway, I think they want to play Ackley. He was the #2 overall pick, he finally showed some signs of life last year... it'd be nice for them to get something out of him.

In any event, how would trading Duda to Seattle help? You certainly couldn't get Franklin for Duda... do you want to throw more stuff in, or get something lesser from them, or what?
   49. billyshears Posted: February 27, 2014 at 02:30 PM (#4663717)
Apparently, Niese's MRI came back clean.
   50. Lassus Posted: February 27, 2014 at 02:39 PM (#4663722)
Apparently, Niese's MRI came back clean.

Yay?

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