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1. Crashburn Alley Posted: April 16, 2008 at 03:38 PM (#2746212)That sounds absolutely horrible though. Ugh, he's got a family too, yikes.
He was probably hoofing it down one, rather than use the ramps -- I did this myself this past Saturday. Or he could have been trying to slide down the railing, but I don't know how he could do that without kicking a couple of hundred people in the kidneys...
Edit: Not funny, McCoy.
His wife, pregnant with their third child, had stayed home while he attended the game.
either that or Rob Base has assumed his handle
Ugh. Simply heartbreaking.
If the escalators were on and moving down after a game, you would have deaths by trampling every night.
Where are these reports?
I saw this on NY1: "There are reports he was sliding down the handrail, but his cousin says he was walking down the escalator and lost his footing."
However, that is not referenced at all. NY1 never says where these reports are from.
They run 'em downward at Giants Stadium & that holds 10,000 more people.
I read somewhere on line this morning that Nararainsami was sliding down the rail when he fell, but I can't for the life of me find any such statement on ESPN or CNN, which would have been the likeliest two sites on which I read it. Might have been an early report which has since been scrubbed.
At the police station.
"A statement from the New York Police Department Tuesday said witnesses saw 36-year-old Antonio Nararainsami of Brooklyn sitting on the banister of the escalator when he lost his balance and fell."
CNN
The family disputes it.
Jack Vincennes once saw a guy die at Miller Park, IIRC.
Being 6'4", the rail of these type of escalators usually comes in at or even below my center of gravity. It is certainly something I can imagine even if you aren't fooling around.
From ABClocal: This just makes no sense. The railing, even on an unmoving escalator, is significantly higher than the steps. You don't fall up. Therefore, if you trip on the steps, gravity would not lift you over the railing, unless you grabbed it and threw yourself over.
Of course they do, if he was screwing then that really weakens their case for a lawsuit.
Although it would have made the divorce a snap.
If that was their first thought, they are a hard, hard group of people. What an awful thing to happen.
I, too, am having trouble imagining the mechanics of falling over the rail. I'm not doubting the veracity of the family's claims--I have trouble believing the man's daughter's would lie so soon after this happen as I'd think they'd be too in shock to be that calculating--but I just can't picture it. I can see falling down the steps, but not over the side. But obviously it happened. Just awful.
As I think about it, it's also possible that they're too embarrassed to say that he was screwing around. Like you, I'm having a hard time seeing how this guy could just fall over.
Is this the type of escalator?
Maybe she didn't actually see it. It's an easy step from "he wouldn't do that" to "he didn't do that."
Of course they do, if he was screwing then that really weakens their case for a lawsuit.
You can guarandamntee whoever owns Shea will produce witnesses who'll testify that he was screwing around.
We will never know the truth unless it's on tape.
Absolutely. But if he was trying to slide down it, and they admit he was, that's not going to help them get the most money they can.
We will never know the truth unless it's on tape.
There very well may be tape of it, but I wouldn't count on it.
Don't we see this constantly in the news. "My son/daughter/husband would never..." and then they bring out the videotape.
However, him being a Mets fan and all, have they ruled out suicide?
Nobody is saying falling over this rail is probable. But it is possible, obviously, even if it is 10,000 to 1 odds that if you were taller, tripped and went over the edge, that is actually not that impossible of a chance.
Keep in mind, when you are traveling down, just 2-4 steps in front of you can amount to about a 1-2 foot drop and the rail 2-4 steps in front of you, when going down, is actually closer to you thigh/knee area. Contrast this with walking up, the rail is above your head 2-4 steps in front of you.
I'm not having a hard time seeing this as a 10,000:1 scenario after tripping. That being said, I don't think our positions are different at all.
He hasn't seen my kitchen.
Best Regards
John
ballpark escalators are pretty steep, so if he turned and was speaking to somebody up escalator and then turned back around and missed his step, maybe even two steps, i could see somebody falling forward.
from there it is just a question of which way his momentum was going.
was he top heavy, fat, have a lot of stuff in his hands.
it could happen
explain?
That would be a more plausible guesstimate if the Mets had drawn 10,000 fans since installing the escalators. (Let's make it 5,000 to 1, since I know this has happened at least once before.) However, over 50 million tickets have been sold at Shea Stadium since 1986, which doesn't even count postseason games and non-Met events.
The two kids being there is off-the-charts wince material, but if it turns out this guy wasn't handrail-sliding/looking down below/etc., it'll be a stunner.
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