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Thursday, August 17, 2017

Mets’ Gsellman irritates GM Sandy Alderson with ‘I don’t care’ comment

Robert Gsellman has done himself no favors with how he’s pitched this season, and he didn’t help himself Tuesday with a brash comment.

When asked if he had heard that Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said he needed to pitch better, Gsellman responded: “No. I don’t really care.”

Alderson made it clear Wednesday he was not pleased with the 24-year-old’s comment, and reiterated that Gsellman needs to pitch better down the stretch.

“I’m going to give him a pass on that for the moment,” Alderson said before having spoken to Gsellman. “I hope that he reflects on the implications of that statement and the potential consequences of that statement. It’s a better response the next time out.”

Alderson said he gave Gsellman a pass since he was starting the third game of Subway Series game, and Gsellman produced a solid outing in his return from the disabled list. He held the Yankees to three runs (two earned) in 5 1/3 innings in a 5-3 loss.

Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: August 17, 2017 at 12:18 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. frannyzoo Posted: August 17, 2017 at 07:39 PM (#5515803)
There's a "stretch" with the Mets?
   2. Walt Davis Posted: August 17, 2017 at 09:49 PM (#5515886)
Hopefully he meant that more in the sense of "Yeah, I know, I don't need him to tell me that" or at least "I'm trying my best."

The kid's giving up a 327 BABIP so far in his career ... that's not good. (But he's mainly getting killed by his HR rate this year ... much like he was saved by it last year.)
   3. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: August 17, 2017 at 10:29 PM (#5515902)
Being a groundball pitcher with Cabrera and Reyes up the middle isn't the best combination for BABIP.

Gsellman's year has been an even bigger disappointment than Harvey's, particularly when considering what it means for the Mets' future. Last year he convinced me he'd be at least a mid-rotation guy. Looking at him now, he looks a lot more like a 4th/5th starter, and he needs the HR rate to get back to normal to even be that.
   4. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: August 17, 2017 at 10:38 PM (#5515904)
Both Matz and Gsellman have had terrible seasons. They are going to need at least one of these guys to be average or better next year. This season just has been really rough overall for the Mets.
   5. PreservedFish Posted: August 17, 2017 at 11:00 PM (#5515916)
In my opinion, there was never a good reason to think that Gsellman was a truly solid starter. Just because the Mets made Jake DeGrom appear out of nowhere doesn't mean they did it twice.
   6. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: August 17, 2017 at 11:07 PM (#5515921)
Well, it is entirely possible that my optimism was misplaced. He had an unimpressive tracker record, the projections were never great, and he has been terrible all season. But he did look like a different pitcher last year when he was in NY. He was throwing a lot harder (he's lost 1.5 mph off all his pitches in a year where everyone says the guns are faster) and striking out a lot more people. I may have gotten more excited than I should have, but I don't think it was baseless.
   7. PreservedFish Posted: August 17, 2017 at 11:35 PM (#5515937)
Well, I was a skeptic. Not the type of thing I enjoy being right about though.
   8. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: August 17, 2017 at 11:52 PM (#5515949)
Gsellman legitimately pitched well last season and he's still pretty young. He's not going to be frontline starter but I still think he can be a back of the rotation type starter.
   9. Meatwad in mourning Posted: August 18, 2017 at 03:08 AM (#5515964)
it relly does seem like we underrate the back end of the rotation, a league average 4/5 isnt great but if they can eat innings at a near 100 era+ you have a goldmine.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: August 18, 2017 at 03:41 AM (#5515967)
Being a groundball pitcher with Cabrera and Reyes up the middle isn't the best combination for BABIP.

More importantly, groundball pitchers shouldn't be giving up 1.5 HR/9.

But yikes! The Mets are actually giving up a team BABIP of 322 and 274 on GB. Last year was bad too at 312/266. League-average this year is 301/243. The 2017 Rfield is -36 with, gulp, -19 for Cabrera, -16 for Reyes and -10 for Flores. Rosario is already at +4 so that's like a 50-win difference right there!

Right now it must be like having Ozzie at SS, Pedro Guerrero at 3B and Vic Harris at 2B (look him up!)

Give me a week to get ready and a designated thrower and I think I can improve your 3B defense.
   11. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 18, 2017 at 11:40 AM (#5516097)
Being a groundball pitcher with Cabrera and Reyes up the middle isn't the best combination for BABIP.

Even better: how about pitching with TRAVIS d'ARNAUD at third and Cabrera at second, the two of them flip-flopping positions depending on the handedness of the hitter and if there was a dp possibility.? I was there for that one, completely astonished.
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 18, 2017 at 12:19 PM (#5516141)
it relly does seem like we underrate the back end of the rotation, a league average 4/5 isnt great but if they can eat innings at a near 100 era+ you have a goldmine.

Except that's a #2/3 starter, not a #4/5. Only 40 pitchers in MLB are currently qualified for the ERA title with an ERA of league average or better.
   13. formerly dp Posted: August 18, 2017 at 02:38 PM (#5516293)
That was the biggest case for Rosario being up earlier. The Met infielders have been absolutely atrocious on D. And glad to see that Reyes is finally out of the lineup, saving Collins from himself.

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