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Sunday, July 14, 2013

Mets’ Jordany Valdespin rips manager Terry Collins after demotion

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Jordany Valdespin went down fighting.

According to a Mets source, the volatile utilityman, upon learning he had been demoted to Triple-A Las Vegas on Saturday, got into a confrontation with Terry Collins, during which he called the manager a “c—ksucker.”

The source said Valdespin, in the course of his heated exchange with Collins, also tried to invent an injury and demanded to be placed on the disabled list.

By the time the clubhouse opened to reporters in the aftermath of the Mets’ 4-2 loss to the Pirates, the 25-year-old Valdespin had regained composure, but had tears in his eyes.

It’s hardly the first time Valdespin has been involved in controversy during his brief career. The most recent incident occurred in May, when he showboated after hitting a home run in a game against the Pirates in which the Mets were getting buried. The next day, Valdespin was sent to the plate as a pinch-hitter and got drilled in apparent retaliation.

Last year, Valdespin angered teammates by wearing a white T-shirt on the team bus, in violation of the dress code. Valdespin later returned to his locker to find the words “El Hombre” written on the shirt, which was mangled.

Repoz Posted: July 14, 2013 at 11:37 PM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Gamingboy Posted: July 15, 2013 at 12:13 AM (#4494399)
Oh, Mets.
   2. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: July 15, 2013 at 01:22 AM (#4494413)
This is unprecedented in the annals of sports!!
   3. Davo Dozier Posted: July 15, 2013 at 02:20 AM (#4494421)
Haha. Yeah. I sorta assume this happens every time a guy gets demoted back to the minors.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 15, 2013 at 02:35 AM (#4494423)
Last year, Valdespin angered teammates by wearing a white T-shirt on the team bus, in violation of the dress code. Valdespin later returned to his locker to find the words “El Hombre” written on the shirt, which was mangled.


He should just be grateful he didn't fart on the bus.
   5. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: July 15, 2013 at 02:44 AM (#4494425)
Valdespin later returned to his locker to find the words “El Hombre” written on the shirt, which was mangled.


How, exactly, do you "mangle" a tee-shirt? Is that better or worse than if it was folded, spindled, or mutilated?

Also, why would MLB players ever be on a bus?
   6. rlc Posted: July 15, 2013 at 02:57 AM (#4494429)
How, exactly, do you "mangle" a tee-shirt?


Same as any other piece of fabric. What's surprising is that the visitors' clubhouse in San Francisco even had such a device. Fancy new stadium like that, you'd think they could afford a washer with a spin cycle.
   7. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: July 15, 2013 at 06:07 AM (#4494440)
Also, why would MLB players ever be on a bus?


Got to get from the hotel to the airport somehow. Better than taking the subway next to some queer with AIDS, right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time, right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids.
   8. DKDC Posted: July 15, 2013 at 06:14 AM (#4494442)
volatile utilityman


That doesn't bode well for a long career...
   9. Alex Vila Posted: July 15, 2013 at 07:23 AM (#4494451)
Mmmmmm... he's so romantic.
   10. formerly dp Posted: July 15, 2013 at 08:02 AM (#4494456)
He should have aired his grievances in a proper forum, such as Twitter or Facebook.
   11. zonk Posted: July 15, 2013 at 08:10 AM (#4494457)
He should have his childishness taken away.
   12. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM (#4494518)

"I got news for you Mr. Collins, you haven't heard the last of me. You may think I'm #### now, but someday you're gonna be sorry you cut me. I'm gonna catch on somewhere else and every time that I hit against you I'm gonna stick it up your ####### ass!"
   13. Bob Tufts Posted: July 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM (#4494660)
I'm still not used to Terry Collins being the calmer person in a verbal argument.
   14. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM (#4494681)
Valdespin later returned to his locker to find the words “El Hombre” written on the shirt, which was mangled.


Hombre? Is he related to Hermano?
   15. michaelplank has knowledgeable eyes Posted: July 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM (#4494683)
wearing a white T-shirt on the team bus, in violation of the dress code


Really, this is a thing?
   16. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: July 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM (#4494728)
Absolutely. The Mets may suck balls, but damn, they're dapper.
   17. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 15, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4494781)
wearing a white T-shirt on the team bus, in violation of the dress code



Really, this is a thing?


I had the same reaction. Take that, rookie - that'll teach you to go around wearing a white t-shirt. Can't have any of THAT on the bus. Because veterans.
   18. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 15, 2013 at 01:38 PM (#4494794)
Really, this is a thing?


Right or wrong the team seems to have a dress code and I wouldn't expect a rookie to be ignoring it. The description of a white t-shirt also brings to mind some guy in a wife-beater (I'm sure there's a PC term but you know what I mean) in a group of guys in a suit.

If I worked in an office where everyone dresses in a suit and then some guy comes in in his second week on the job wearing a Van Halen t-shirt and a pair of ripped jeans I'm going to draw some conclusions about that guy's professionalism. I could well be 100% wrong in my assumptions but the guy is opening himself up.
   19. JJ1986 Posted: July 15, 2013 at 01:40 PM (#4494799)
If I worked in an office where everyone dresses in a suit and then some guy comes in in his second week on the job wearing a Van Halen t-shirt and a pair of ripped jeans I'm going to draw some conclusions about that guy's professionalism. I could well be 100% wrong in my assumptions but the guy is opening himself up.


If I worked in an office and co-workers mangled my shirt, I'd draw even worse conclusions.
   20. Rusty Priske Posted: July 15, 2013 at 01:52 PM (#4494822)
People really, REALLY need to get over the idea that spending more money on clothes somehow makes you a better person.
   21. Greg K Posted: July 15, 2013 at 02:22 PM (#4494866)
People really, REALLY need to get over the idea that spending more money on clothes somehow makes you a better person.

Well we've been unsuccessful in getting over that for several thousands years, so I wouldn't be too optimistic.
   22. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: July 15, 2013 at 02:41 PM (#4494895)
The source said Valdespin, in the course of his heated exchange with Collins, also tried to invent an injury and demanded to be placed on the disabled list.


I think he may be having money troubles
signed in 2007, do not know what kind of any signing bonus he got.

Minor league salaries suck.

In the majors he's earning money at a $500k annual rate, in AAA at what $30K? Sizable difference

   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 15, 2013 at 03:10 PM (#4494944)
People really, REALLY need to get over the idea that spending more money on clothes somehow makes you a better person.


Also the whole Calvinist thing that wearing uncomfortable clothing is a sign of virtue and status.
   24. Bob Tufts Posted: July 15, 2013 at 03:59 PM (#4495005)
.188/.250/.316 with a 59 OPS+. Jordany tried to hit Collins but per usual he was over swinging and failed to make contact.


I look forward to the Calvinist Klein line of clothing.
   25. PreservedFish Posted: July 15, 2013 at 04:32 PM (#4495042)
Would the world be a better place if everyone, leaders and peons alike, wore sweat pants, muumuus and robes? We just had a thread a few days ago in which many lamented the decline of American dressing habits.
   26. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 15, 2013 at 04:43 PM (#4495058)
Last year, Valdespin angered teammates by wearing a white T-shirt on the team bus, in violation of the dress code. Valdespin later returned to his locker to find the words “El Hombre” written on the shirt, which was mangled.
WHO MESSED WITH MY T-SHIRT.
   27. Bob Tufts Posted: July 15, 2013 at 04:52 PM (#4495070)
Would the world be a better place if everyone, leaders and peons alike, wore sweat pants, muumuus and robes? We just had a thread a few days ago in which many lamented the decline of American dressing habits


Dick Allen wore a dashiki to an MLBPA strike meeting, but since he's a prick it probably isn't a good idea.
   28. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 15, 2013 at 05:03 PM (#4495077)
Would the world be a better place if everyone, leaders and peons alike, wore sweat pants, muumuus and robes?


If we had no socially constructed connotations associated with clothing, which are in many cases arbitrary and in others rooted in the religion-based belief that experiencing discomfort is virtuous and good for you, it would make no difference whatsoever.
   29. Swedish Chef Posted: July 15, 2013 at 05:21 PM (#4495097)
If I worked in an office where everyone dresses in a suit and then some guy comes in in his second week on the job wearing a Van Halen t-shirt and a pair of ripped jeans I'm going to draw some conclusions about that guy's professionalism. I could well be 100% wrong in my assumptions but the guy is opening himself up.

Now, in software development a guy in a suit would raise immediate suspicion.
   30. thetailor Posted: July 15, 2013 at 05:29 PM (#4495103)
Valdespin later returned to his locker to find the words “El Hombre” written on the shirt

This is pretty funny given the "I am the man right now" comment that Valdespin made (although to be fair Valdy wasn't out of line when he said that). The Mets have come a long way from "know your place, rook"! I am happy to see they have improved the quality of their ridiculous criticism of young players.
   31. Walt Davis Posted: July 15, 2013 at 06:51 PM (#4495150)
some guy in a wife-beater (I'm sure there's a PC term but you know what I mean)

If it helps, in my neighborhood when I was a kid, we called them "dago tees".

   32. McCoy Posted: July 15, 2013 at 07:03 PM (#4495156)
Would the world be a better place if everyone, leaders and peons alike, wore sweat pants, muumuus and robes? We just had a thread a few days ago in which many lamented the decline of American dressing habits

We did? How was I not told?
   33. bunyon Posted: July 15, 2013 at 07:24 PM (#4495173)
We did? How was I not told?

We know your opinion.
   34. Bug Selig Posted: July 15, 2013 at 08:35 PM (#4495225)
I am happy to see they have improved the quality of their ridiculous criticism of young players.


Which is the ridiculous part? They could justifiably rip him for: his play; his tendency to show up opponents when he randomly enjoys brief success; his failure to follow team rules; faking an injury; or calling his boss a coksuker for not sufficiently appreciating all of the above.

It's fairly simple - Scrubs can't be high-maintenance.
   35. Bruce Markusen Posted: July 15, 2013 at 10:15 PM (#4495359)
Good riddance to Valdespin. He alienated himself from just about everybody on the Mets, from teammates to coaches. He wouldn't listen to any advice, any suggestions, even when guys were just trying to help him become more accepted in the clubhouse.

Countless guys are sent to the minor leagues throughout the season. Most accept the news--unhappily but without a tantrum. Valdespin called his manager names, threw equipment in the clubhouse, and then tried to convince the trainer that he was injured (when he clearly is not) so that he could remain on the major league payroll.

The only one being ridiculous was Valdespin.

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